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HanZi #1 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:49 AM

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It seem that free to play, come with certain restrictions, regarding aiming and ammo.

 

At the moment im lvling obj 705, and it seems that ive got great difficulty hitting my targets and pen them with 250 mm pen.  using norm AP and HE. HE doesnt pen, i know.

 

The hitting problem doesnt aply to many other players driving ruski or other high dispersion nations, where the both hit and pens me easaly, even when they only have 1 sec to stop and fire. most tanks got 3 sec aim time to fully soom aim inn. I got 100% crew with 3 perks and ventilation, aimspeed, loadspeed as equipment. This problem is the same under 100 meters.??? And ofc im stopped for fully aim.

 

Regarding Penetration, i tried not to pen even lower hull, from shooting up under a tank comming over a hill, where they should be the most soft armour from a VERY close range. When sidestepping a corner to get a shot  i many times getting tracked and damaged at less than 10 degrees angle, which is impossible for me to do. Tried MANY times.

 

I have come the the conclution, that since im not having prem account, not buying prem ammo, or any MODs installed, im screwed, but by whom.?????

 

Is it WG, the P2W RNG or is it Cheat from other players.

 

Plz dont give me the "its skill" crap, coz what more can i do than praing to hit where my aim is pointing when holding still and all soomed inn. ?????



BR33K1_PAWAH #2 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:58 AM

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

ive got great difficulty hitting my targets and pen them

View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

The hitting problem doesnt aply to many other players driving ruski or other high dispersion nations, where the both hit and pens me easaly

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The_Salty_Kipper #3 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:03 AM

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@Hanzi

 

At least by opening this thread you are trying to improve. The best idea would be to post a replay so players can actually see what you are doing and comment on actual events and not your interpretation of them. 

 

Up to you!



BravelyRanAway #4 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:18 AM

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If you scroll down on this page.... http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/forum/73-heavy-tanks/ and read the links about the Obj 705, you'll get an idea of what may be the problem. It's not 'P2W RNG or cheats from other players'.

OreH75 #5 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:21 AM

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 10:49 AM, s

 

Is it WG, the P2W RNG or is it Cheat from other players.

 

No; it is not WG, you can not buy better RNG and mods do not determine if a shot will hit or pen.

gunslingerXXX #6 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:35 AM

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Attached File   Project001.mp4   6MB

I also have problems getting snapshotted by T49 from several hundereds meters on the move.

In the vid (sorry for background noise) you can see the T49 doesn't even aim in my direction after my first shot lands and shortly after I'm shot...

And yes I know my aiming sucks.

 



kaneloon #7 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:49 AM

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I snap shooted a invisible tank the other side of a map while driving an OI. No hack, just a successful try. But if you never try ...

HanZi #8 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:57 AM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 02 January 2019 - 11:35 AM, said:

Attached File   Project001.mp4   6MB

I also have problems getting snapshotted by T49 from several hundereds meters on the move.

In the vid (sorry for background noise) you can see the T49 doesn't even aim in my direction after my first shot lands and shortly after I'm shot...

And yes I know my aiming sucks.

 

The worst thing is all the "skilled" tankers whos driving around and both tracking and penning my tank. Worst MOD ever. Especially light tanks with full speed, almost never misses.


Edited by HanZi, 02 January 2019 - 12:01 PM.


BravelyRanAway #9 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:03 PM

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 10:57 AM, said:

The worst thing is all the "skilled" tankers whos driving around and both tacking and penning my tank. Worst MOD ever. Especially light tanks with full speed, almost never misses.

I'm going to assume that by placing "" either side of the word skilled that you believe it is not skill but cheating.

As this is a P2S game and not a P2P game and so no hacker has access to the server let alone be able to control RNG, so carry on with your pointless nonsense which will keep your mind firmly shut against improving and continue as you usually do.


Edited by BravelyRanAway, 02 January 2019 - 12:03 PM.


Gremlin182 #10 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

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As already stated no you cannot buy better aim the nearest you can get to paying money and improving your chances would be to spend it all on a better computer than you have right now and a better internet connection.

Assuming either or both of yours are lacking.

 

Turn on the server reticle in game settings.

The standard reticle shows where you think you are aiming the server reticle shows where the Game is actually aiming.

Ideally these will be exactly the same but its possible due to lag they will be different.

 

0.42 accuracy on the 130mm gun probably doesn't help with precise shots at longish range.

The premium ammo is no more accurate just a little faster and more penetration.

 

Not a tank I have unlocked as yet



HanZi #11 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:16 PM

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And btw, im sure that norm ammo has a much higher fail rating of hitting and penning its target, where WG is forcing players to by prem ammo. This is NOT only the obj 705, where i have this experiance.

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

And btw, im sure that norm ammo has a much higher fail rating of hitting and penning its target, 

45k games and now this. :facepalm:



The_Salty_Kipper #13 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:20 PM

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

And btw, im sure that norm ammo has a much higher fail rating of hitting and penning its target, where WG is forcing players to by prem ammo. This is NOT only the obj 705, where i have this experiance.

 

Hanzi, you arte just going to get trolled with that attitude, post a replay, and MAYBE we can help you or offer real advice!

 

http://wotreplays.eu/

 

here is the link..



HanZi #14 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:22 PM

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View PostGremlin182, on 02 January 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

As already stated no you cannot buy better aim the nearest you can get to paying money and improving your chances would be to spend it all on a better computer than you have right now and a better internet connection.

Assuming either or both of yours are lacking.

Turn on the server reticle in game settings.

The standard reticle shows 

where you think you are aiming the server reticle shows where the Game is actually aiming.

Ideally these will be exactly the same but its possible due to lag they will be different.

 

0.42 accuracy on the 130mm gun probably doesn't help with precise shots at longish range.

The premium ammo is no more accurate just a little faster and more penetration.

 

Not a tank I have unlocked as yet

Turn on the server reticle in game settings.

The standard reticle shows 

where you think you are aiming the server reticle shows where the Game is actually aiming.

Ideally these will be exactly the same but its possible due to lag they will be different.

 

Waiting for aim to soom, im sure server aim is there aswell, then how do you explain other tankers NOT having to wait aswell.?????????

I got 100 MB internet line, did a speed tjeck, and my PC isnt an amiga.

So rethink your statement.

What i did do was  a ping test to server showing alot of packetloss, as many other players has done.

 

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View PostThe_Salty_Kipper, on 02 January 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

 

Hanzi, you arte just going to get trolled with that attitude, post a replay, and MAYBE we can help you or offer real advice!

 

http://wotreplays.eu/

 

here is the link..

LOL, posting a replay, would just show what im saying, and be explained by others as "skill." same as the 1nes send regarding cheats. No effect. sorry.


Edited by HanZi, 02 January 2019 - 12:25 PM.


wremise #15 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:36 PM

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Pls upload a Replay, so we can find out the problem.

 

We will not agree *edited*until you provide us with some decent facts about your playstyle.


Edited by NickMustaine, 02 January 2019 - 07:20 PM.
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HundeWurst #16 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:48 PM

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Rng ist not influenced by spending money. At least its not proven which means it might as well be there for all we know, however rather unlikely to actually be a thing even though its WG after all.

And there is plenty of rng in this game... If feel often the same, my carefully aimed shot misses by a mile while cyka mobile 7 is hitting me while at max speed. Rng



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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 12:22 PM, said:

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What i did do was  a ping test to server showing alot of packetloss, as many other players has done.

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If you have, as you say "alot of packetloss", that may be your problem.  I've 50Mb 4G connection to internet, and no packetlosses.



Sfinski #18 Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:19 PM

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I miss plenty of shots, also hit plenty. Do you notice every miss I make if we were playing against each other or just the hits?

NUKLEAR_SLUG #19 Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:50 PM

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View PostHanZi, on 02 January 2019 - 12:22 PM, said:

What i did do was  a ping test to server showing alot of packetloss, as many other players has done.

 

Has trouble aiming/hitting targets.

Does ping test and discovers internet connection is crap.

Decides the problem is WG 'rigging'.

 

Player logic.

 



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Just to be clear ammunition does not affect RNG on aim, dispersion or anything else. What ammunition DOES do is affect the velocity of the round which can affect the amount you need to lead aim etc. But this is not reliant on the amount you pay on the ammo, it's the ammo type and how it behaves. 

 

The best thing you can do to help your aiming, get better equipment, use highly trained crew, get a feel for your tanks shooting behaviour and embrace the RNG when it comes to snap shots. KV2 doesn't always 1 shot random shots at the start of the game aiming at nothing, but when you do, you remember it. 






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