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seXikanac #1 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:00 PM

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I have excellent idea how to re balance premium ammo? Just remove it :D Tweak some tanks a bit, and we will have nice game again. I dont see any other solution. Game was far more balanced when premium ammo usage was scarce

Edited by seXikanac, 02 January 2019 - 10:00 PM.


Nishi_Kinuyo #2 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM

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Yes, make my Japanese heavies immune to enemy shells! :izmena:

 

And that is also the perfect counter arguement.



The_Naa #3 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:20 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

Yes, make my Japanese heavies immune to enemy shells! :izmena:

 

And that is also the perfect counter arguement.

 

And finaly I can hulldown with my 113 in peace, knowing every shell will bounce. 

This is going to be great.

But you must promise me that there will be no heavy tank nerfs in the future, that poll talking about nerfing type 4&5 is useless, we have the solution here.

Praise the Sun \[T]/


Edited by The_Naa, 02 January 2019 - 10:25 PM.


seXikanac #4 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:22 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

Yes, make my Japanese heavies immune to enemy shells! :izmena:

 

And that is also the perfect counter arguement.

 

There where tanks immune to frontal and even side fire from most of tanks before, like Mouse. But you always had several tanks in team that can penetrate them and some tanks that couldn't penetrate them even from behind. And old MM and premium ammo for gold worked than. It all went downhill with change that allowed purchasing of premium ammo for silver and it hit rock bottom with current MM.

Edited by seXikanac, 02 January 2019 - 10:27 PM.


MR_FIAT #5 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:35 PM

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You forgot the 5th option: "No you arent, learn to spell."

seXikanac #6 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:40 PM

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View PostMR_FIAT, on 02 January 2019 - 10:35 PM, said:

You forgot the 5th option: "No you arent, learn to spell."

 

Oh grammar nazi, whats wrong with my spelling? :P And I think you should vote - Yes on both topics :D

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Please stay on topic

Edited by seXikanac, 02 January 2019 - 10:45 PM.


DuncaN_101 #7 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:57 PM

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option 6 "late too the party" been suggested several times before ...

 

anyways where is QP when you need him



Laatikkomafia #8 Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:58 PM

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View PostseXikanac, on 02 January 2019 - 11:22 PM, said:

 

There where tanks immune to frontal and even side fire from most of tanks before, like Mouse. But you always had several tanks in team that can penetrate them and some tanks that couldn't penetrate them even from behind. And old MM and premium ammo for gold worked than. It all went downhill with change that allowed purchasing of premium ammo for silver and it hit rock bottom with current MM.

 

Maus has never been immune to LFP and side shots.

LordMuffin #9 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:00 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

Yes, make my Japanese heavies immune to enemy shells! :izmena:

 

And that is also the perfect counter arguement.

He included, "tweak some tanks a bit".

So, weakspots incoming.



Balc0ra #10 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:03 PM

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View PostseXikanac, on 02 January 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

Game was far more balanced when premium ammo usage was scarce

 

Because super heavies was not a thing then. Even with a rebalance to even give the T32 and IS-6 am awesome 30% chance to pen the Type 4. It won't fix much alone other than giving more power the wrong way on high tiers. And making padding more vital again on lower tiers, even in the AMX 40. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 02 January 2019 - 11:03 PM.


PervyPastryPuffer #11 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:03 PM

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Plot twist! - They are removing it, and adding "special ammo" in its place! :great:

Archaean #12 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:03 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

Yes, make my Japanese heavies immune to enemy shells! :izmena:

 

And that is also the perfect counter arguement.

just shoot HE at jap heavies.



gpalsson #13 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:06 PM

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Weakspots need more than a slight tweak, but yep it would be fine.

Qarina #14 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:16 PM

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How people didn't think of this?

LordMuffin #15 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:33 PM

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View PostQarina, on 02 January 2019 - 11:16 PM, said:

How people didn't think of this?

People do, WG just think they can't earn so much money this way, thus they won't make changes like.

Removal of premium ammo and introduction of weakspots.



seXikanac #16 Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:54 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 02 January 2019 - 11:33 PM, said:

People do, WG just think they can't earn so much money this way, thus they won't make changes like.

Removal of premium ammo and introduction of weakspots.

 

Why would they earn more money with current setup?

 

PS:

I agree on your signature, XVM should be removed


Edited by seXikanac, 02 January 2019 - 11:56 PM.


LordMuffin #17 Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:12 AM

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View PostseXikanac, on 02 January 2019 - 11:54 PM, said:

 

Why would they earn more money with current setup?

 

PS:

I agree on your signature, XVM should be removed

Probably.

Premium ammo cost more credits.

Player need more credits.

Player wants to get more credits and buy premium tank/premium time to get it.

 

I don't think this neccessarily is true or the only way to squeeze money out of the players.



Qarina #18 Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:46 AM

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Why no remove arty? Where is the usual whinning thread about it

So far we only got ones for xvm and premium ammo

 



UrQuan #19 Posted 03 January 2019 - 02:40 AM

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Have a glimpse into this bold new future you propose. Are you ready to fight against this?

 

Sure, all fun and games like this. And then you got to fight against it & you realize half of your team doesn't even stand a chance on damaging that superheavy. Because that mofo doesnt' play fair and has support that wrecks with your awesome tactic of 'Flank it!'

Honestly, the feel of driving a formidable steel fortress that wrecks the enemy lines as they fruitlessly shoot you is already in the game. It just isn't every game, because that would be some very terrible balance.

But when you land your superheavy in a toptier game & people refuse to spam you with prem? Be the Unstoppable Juggernaut. Crush the enemy defenses. Drive their TD's out their hiding places. Make their meds question their guns. Claim that victory as you smash through the enemy team with your support in tow. After all, who is going to stop you?

 


Edited by UrQuan, 03 January 2019 - 02:53 AM.


seXikanac #20 Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:21 PM

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View PostUrQuan, on 03 January 2019 - 02:40 AM, said:

Have a glimpse into this bold new future you propose. Are you ready to fight against this?

 

Sure, all fun and games like this. And then you got to fight against it & you realize half of your team doesn't even stand a chance on damaging that superheavy. Because that mofo doesnt' play fair and has support that wrecks with your awesome tactic of 'Flank it!'

Honestly, the feel of driving a formidable steel fortress that wrecks the enemy lines as they fruitlessly shoot you is already in the game. It just isn't every game, because that would be some very terrible balance.

But when you land your superheavy in a toptier game & people refuse to spam you with prem? Be the Unstoppable Juggernaut. Crush the enemy defenses. Drive their TD's out their hiding places. Make their meds question their guns. Claim that victory as you smash through the enemy team with your support in tow. After all, who is going to stop you?

 

 

Without premium ammo, standard ammo can be tweaked to have better penetration, tank armours can be nerfed, and it will be easier to balance game. This game was much more balanced in 2013. when premium ammo was available only for gold, than it is now

Edited by seXikanac, 03 January 2019 - 12:22 PM.





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