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Renesco #1 Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:23 PM

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When I play tanks the last few years, I usually play as low effort as possible, see here:

 

On the left a low effort win, I was alt-tabbed for the first 5 minutes reading an article and eating an omelette, then I checked to see how the battle was going and if I should push a flank or drown myself, it seemed to be going well so I pushed a flank, landed a lazy shot and got 1063 xp and 9,880 credits for my low effort gameplay.

 

On the right was my first battle of the day in the same tank, I put in the effort because I was fresh after logging in, did near 2,000 damage and was 2nd top despite being a tier 8 in a tier 10 + 3 arty match and for my efforts I got half the xp and less credits. My mistake in this match was trying, once we were down by 4 or 5 tanks I should have just drowned and moved on.

 

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SuedKAT #2 Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:38 PM

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View PostRenesco, on 03 January 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

On the right was my first battle of the day in the same tank

Looks at the left picture, see "x2 for the first victory of the day", looks at the right one and don't see the same, something don't add up here.

 

Edit: To state the obvious, you lost the right match, you won the left one which is why the rewards differ the way they do.


Edited by SuedKAT, 03 January 2019 - 06:41 PM.


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View PostSuedKAT, on 03 January 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

Looks at the left picture, see "x2 for the first victory of the day", looks at the right one and don't see the same, something don't add up here.

 

Edit: To state the obvious, you lost the right match, you won the left one which is why the rewards differ the way they do.

 

Dear OP is renowned for a lack of knowledge on basically all WoT mechanics, including the simpler ones. The fact he's even tagged as a 'Beta Tester' is beyond ironic... 

Jigabachi #4 Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:11 PM

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It really didn't require another thread to make us understand that you are an immature brat.

gpalsson #5 Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:27 PM

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I'm sure some games of poker has also been won with low effort.

That doesn't make it a good idea to make random bets just because someone at some point was lucky.

 

Cherry picking examples to make a low effort post like you did serves no purpose, and if you dislike having to work for your team you can always be that 45% shitter who sits in a corner spamming the map and crying SPOT in chat. There are plenty of you guys already, so one more won't change much. 

 



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Bordhaw #7 Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:38 PM

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View PostRenesco, on 03 January 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

When I play tanks the last few years, I usually play as low effort as possible, see here:

 

On the left a low effort win, I was alt-tabbed for the first 5 minutes reading an article and eating an omelette, then I checked to see how the battle was going and if I should push a flank or drown myself, it seemed to be going well so I pushed a flank, landed a lazy shot and got 1063 xp and 9,880 credits for my low effort gameplay.

 

On the right was my first battle of the day in the same tank, I put in the effort because I was fresh after logging in, did near 2,000 damage and was 2nd top despite being a tier 8 in a tier 10 + 3 arty match and for my efforts I got half the xp and less credits. My mistake in this match was trying, once we were down by 4 or 5 tanks I should have just drowned and moved on.

 

The worst mistake you can make while playing this game, is taking it seriously :justwait:

 



Homer_J #8 Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:49 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 03 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

Dear OP is renowned for a lack of knowledge on basically all WoT mechanics, including the simpler ones. The fact he's even tagged as a 'Beta Tester' is beyond ironic... 

In this case beta tester means he has been here a long time.

 

View PostRenesco, on 03 January 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

On the left a win, 

And on the right you lost.

 

The game rewards winning.

 

You win more by playing well.

 

I don't see the problem in that situation.



Renesco #9 Posted 04 January 2019 - 01:48 AM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 03 January 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

Looks at the left picture, see "x2 for the first victory of the day", looks at the right one and don't see the same, something don't add up here.

 

Edit: To state the obvious, you lost the right match, you won the left one which is why the rewards differ the way they do.

 

Yes that's the whole point, all that really matters is winning, a low-effort playstyle means you'll be rewarded fairly consistently anyway since your team will carry you about half the time

 

View PostAliceUnchained, on 03 January 2019 - 06:44 PM, said:

Dear OP is renowned for a lack of knowledge on basically all WoT mechanics, including the simpler ones. The fact he's even tagged as a 'Beta Tester' is beyond ironic... 

 

*edited*

 

View PostHomer_J, on 03 January 2019 - 09:49 PM, said:

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View PostJigabachi, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 PM, said:

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Edited by NickMustaine, 04 January 2019 - 05:39 PM.
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Homer_J #10 Posted 04 January 2019 - 01:52 AM

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View PostRenesco, on 04 January 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

 

 

*edited*

This is just the account I use for posting on the forum.

 

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Balc0ra #11 Posted 04 January 2019 - 02:28 AM

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I suspect the win was a tier X game too. And it was a 2x. So if you won by elimination. And the participation reward is simply the HP on the enemy team and the win bonus times 2. As if so you took all their HP, and that's something even the bots get.

 

The 2nd one you did not get a 2x, or a win bonus, or the total enemy HP bonus that was not taken out. So even with you doing 2K damage. That won't matter much if the enemy teams HP pool in a tier X game was not even taken down by 1/4, unless you get a courageous resistance reward. That you won't get by drowning. 

 

That and I suspect WG did feel they should get some payback with interest for you not playing and getting XP the first time. Who knows. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 04 January 2019 - 02:29 AM.


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View PostRenesco, on 04 January 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

*edited*

 

I don't know either of you if it helps. *edited*


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Renesco #13 Posted 04 January 2019 - 05:42 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 04 January 2019 - 02:28 AM, said:

I suspect the win was a tier X game too. And it was a 2x. So if you won by elimination. And the participation reward is simply the HP on the enemy team and the win bonus times 2. As if so you took all their HP, and that's something even the bots get.

 

The 2nd one you did not get a 2x, or a win bonus, or the total enemy HP bonus that was not taken out. So even with you doing 2K damage. That won't matter much if the enemy teams HP pool in a tier X game was not even taken down by 1/4, unless you get a courageous resistance reward. That you won't get by drowning. 

 

That and I suspect WG did feel they should get some payback with interest for you not playing and getting XP the first time. Who knows. 

 

Both games were tier X, but my point was regardless of the 2x bonus, you're rewarded for being lazy if you win, and punished for being active if you lose, so why put in the effort?

 

View PostPattonizer, on 04 January 2019 - 02:37 AM, said:

I don't know either of you if it helps. *edited*

 

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Homer_J #14 Posted 04 January 2019 - 05:46 AM

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View PostRenesco, on 04 January 2019 - 04:42 AM, said:

 

you're rewarded for being lazy if you win, and punished for being active if you lose, so why put in the effort?

 

 

You put in the effort so you win more and you get rewarded more and punished less.



SuedKAT #15 Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:11 AM

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View PostRenesco, on 04 January 2019 - 01:48 AM, said:

 

Yes that's the whole point, all that really matters is winning, a low-effort playstyle means you'll be rewarded fairly consistently anyway since your team will carry you about half the time

 

Yes leaving your team in a 14 vs 15 situation regularly for sure makes your chances of winning a lot higher, I mean your 2 battle sample size quite clearly prove this. Especially since I just checked your recent stats which show me that you've played 20 matches and won 40% of them, so here we quite clearly see proof of you pushing yourself to much and therefore losing, statistics like that don't lie.



malachi6 #16 Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:18 AM

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Obviously a win is going to reap more rewards than a loss.  It's meant to be a motivator.  How can the OP not fathom this part. 

 

If the second game were a win and not a double.  The rewards would have been 50% greater and obviously much greater if a double..  Then, looking at the XP earned and assistance damage. I would suggest the damage done was mostly un-spotted by the OP causing the loss of 50% XP.  Basically, You pick a worst possible scenario to validate being an afk player.

 

Basically reminds me of the insurance claim with the cause of.  "I drove into a drive that was not mine and hit a tree I did not own".



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Why feed an obvious troll? U guys can't resist lol

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View PostRenesco, on 03 January 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

When I play tanks the last few years, I usually play as low effort as possible, see here:

 

On the left a low effort win, I was alt-tabbed for the first 5 minutes reading an article and eating an omelette, then I checked to see how the battle was going and if I should push a flank or drown myself, it seemed to be going well so I pushed a flank, landed a lazy shot and got 1063 xp and 9,880 credits for my low effort gameplay.

 

On the right was my first battle of the day in the same tank, I put in the effort because I was fresh after logging in, did near 2,000 damage and was 2nd top despite being a tier 8 in a tier 10 + 3 arty match and for my efforts I got half the xp and less credits. My mistake in this match was trying, once we were down by 4 or 5 tanks I should have just drowned and moved on.

 

The worst mistake you can make while playing this game, is taking it seriously :justwait:

 



Karasu_Hidesuke #20 Posted 04 January 2019 - 02:31 PM

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You still need to practice, still too much but don't worry you will get there and reach my level eventually. :P




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