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Nazgul1379 #1 Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:48 PM

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Someone from WG must do something about 279 from armmor...it is PATHETIC!!!

It has enormous front upper plate and is very weak....everyone can pen it,even trier 8 with gold ammo..

We busted our butts to get it and we receive a below average heavy tank..

Try to face against S.Conqueror it will make you look like a total fool.

I try everything to set it right,no side scraping,no nothing...

At least make smaller the upper plate or increase the armmor to 300 and above



eekeeboo #2 Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:51 PM

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I'm sure there will be a collection of information and data and review of the tank if needed. Note the T55a and the Object 260. That's all I can suggest for now, as I don't have the tank myself yet. 

 

May I suggest though that if you fail to go head to head with an S. Conq, perhaps this is something you should not repeat? 



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It looks to me like it has troll armour a bit like the Obj.907.

Some people will pen it with tier 8 auto aim, then next minute it will shrug off tier 10 HEAT rounds.


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Sfinski #4 Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:56 PM

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So you shouldnt be able to pen it at all? No, most t8s can't pen it with prem ammo. The upper plate is 300mm effective from the front. T8s can't do anything about it. Many t9s can't do anything against it.

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I have both t-55a and 260 and you are total right....

The thing is that the owners of that tank must say what is the problem.

Never close to S.C again

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View PostSfinski, on 07 January 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

So you shouldnt be able to pen it at all? No, most t8s can't pen it with prem ammo. The upper plate is 300mm effective from the front. T8s can't do anything about it. Many t9s can't do anything against it.

 

Ihave multiple examples trier 8 that pen me...and not with 10 trier gun....is-3a,t-44 that kind of tanks

Derethim #6 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:00 PM

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It's an example of well-balanced tank for tier X.

gitgud_cannot #7 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:01 PM

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so its not 268v4 prenerf levels of OP and sure you complain about it.I wonder how all tier 8s pen you every single time? if its upper plate on level ground is 2700+ against AP, 300+ against apcr and 310+ against HEAT. The only place it gets penetrated reliably are cupolas.

The other thing is that i checked your stats, 279 has the highest dpg on any of your tier 10s and one of the highest wrs, 9% higher than your avg wr, which means its over performing in yours hands already. And you want more? :D so you managed 2,5k dpg with 268v4 and doing 3,1k in 279, ok 268v4 has 4% higher wr, but anyway, that says alot.

p.s. when i meet one in 3/5/7 battle, its pretty obvious that i will load "speacial" ammo to kill it as fast as i can, to win the damn battle. 


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Nazgul1379 #8 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:06 PM

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268 has way more beter armor.....just now a t-54 snapshot me with ap and pen me in upper plate

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View PostNazgul1379, on 07 January 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

Ihave multiple examples trier 8 that pen me...and not with 10 trier gun....is-3a,t-44 that kind of tanks

 

In replay form? :hiding: Are you sure they didn't overmatch the bottom of the tank?



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View PostNazgul1379, on 07 January 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

268 has way more beter armor.....just now a t-54 snapshot me with ap and pen me in upper plate

 

one thing that might not realize about it - is that it has 20mm belly armor, which gets overmatched by everything, considering how good wg devs are at creating collision models, i wouldnt be surprised if its bugged, and the very edge of the beak gets overmatched.

barison1 #11 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

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obj279e front cant be penned with regular ammo and pretty much only with gold(not counting utter high pen TD obviously). 300mm+ effective is fair

yea seems total paper to me

 

 

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also not to mention why would you work your [edited]off to get 279e, so far im aware there isnt an award for getting it as quickly as possible :P

Nazgul1379 #12 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:19 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 07 January 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

obj279e front cant be penned with regular ammo and pretty much only with gold(not counting utter high pen TD obviously). 300mm+ effective is fair

yea seems total paper to me

 

 

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also not to mention why would you work your [edited]off to get 279e, so far im aware there isnt an award for getting it as quickly as possible :P

i like to get it first,just my thing...the problem is the enormous upper plate...and Mouse has 285 turret armor on sides but you can angle it...this tank simple cannot play it front line 



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View PostNazgul1379, on 07 January 2019 - 06:19 PM, said:

i like to get it first,just my thing...the problem is the enormous upper plate...and Mouse has 285 turret armor on sides but you can angle it...this tank simple cannot play it front line 

 

bit late to try get it as first one tho

 

and why wouldnt it be able to play frontline? if enemy doesnt tap 2 key they cant do crapto you at all, even with 2 key its like 50% chance for the hull middle(~330pen ranges), towards sides quickly getting lower. turretcheeks about 50%, rest of turret is HAha no pen


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gitgud_cannot #14 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:27 PM

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its just not OP enough for him, he wants to be invincible.

Nishi_Kinuyo #15 Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:28 PM

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If the model on tanks.gg is any accurate...

Then there's several spots to pixel-snipe for just their raw armour value.



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View Postunrealname, on 07 January 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

its just not OP enough for him, he wants to be invincible.

 

ironically enough it is one of his best played tier x tanks along with spagetto (how unexpected) :popcorn:

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View Postunrealname, on 07 January 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

its just not OP enough for him, he wants to be invincible.

did not say that,do not want that...i want a tank that is equal to the efford a gave to get it... 



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View PostNazgul1379, on 07 January 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

did not say that,do not want that...i want a tank that is equal to the efford a gave to get it... 

 

But wouldn't that be different for everyone then, if you start basing it on people's effort. I've seen some players (one guy even boasted on the forums about it) getting the 279 by letting others play on their account. Do they deserve it as much as you do?

 

In short, the tank is good already, extremely hard to pen unless a tier 9/10 loads gold. You most likely get overmatched to the bottom of your tank by lower tiers.



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View PostNazgul1379, on 07 January 2019 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ihave multiple examples trier 8 that pen me...and not with 10 trier gun....is-3a,t-44 that kind of tanks

 

Then you angled your tank downwards, which is your mistake, not the tanks fault. Flat ground it is 300 effective.

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1)So basically he wants another type5 which cannot be penetrated by poor tier8s from front even though they use gold ammo.
2)U need to play German tanks and know which tank needs buff your obj279 dosent it have good turret armor?




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