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eekeeboo #1 Posted 08 January 2019 - 05:26 PM

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Greetings Tankers! 

 

Please place your feedback about Changes to reward tanks from the 1.4 test in this thread. Please remain on-topic and constructive. 

 

The vehicles affected are: 

Chimera

Object 279

 

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eek. 


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Celution #2 Posted 14 January 2019 - 06:46 PM

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Let me start by saying that these vehicles should be made available for testing on the Common Test, when drastic changes like these are made (and this goes for all premium/special tanks).

 

The Object 279 (e) did not need any improvements to the gun. The vehicle is already incredibly oppressive due to the lack of any lower glacis and "floating" tracks (meaning that you can't lock it in place while dealing damage at the same time). The weakest part of the frontal hull, on a flat surface is 260 mm (!), meaning it's virtually impenetrable to anything that isn't a premium round or the very best tier 10 TD guns.

 

Concerning the armour changes, I was really worried at first. In the future it would have been nice to get more information on this besides "improved hull armouring". However, thanks to the amazing people at tanks.gg that have already imported the Common Test files, it shows that the only change was that the belly armour was increased from 20 mm to 55 mm, probably to improve resistance against HE and artillery shells, as well as rare overmatches that may happen once in a while.

 

The changes for the Chimera on the other hand look very promising and well thought through. Judging from bare statistics, it seemed that the vehicle was quite underwhelming and these changes should make the vehicle more comfortable.



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alruir #4 Posted 14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM

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EBR 105. These tanks are not needed. The whole team is spoted in the first seconds. These tanks can't do anything, they only disrupt everyone.

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sady3296 #5 Posted 14 January 2019 - 08:27 PM

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So you based this buff on what exactly?? You constalty bs us that you need data to actually change tanks or remove/change maps but now you buff the rarest t10 in the game? After 250 people on eu get it?

 

Buff 121, leo1 stb, e100 and all the other crap thats been underpowered for years!!

 

 



Hero2107 #6 Posted 14 January 2019 - 09:34 PM

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Could you please take a look at the tier 5 Stug reward tank as well? It slightly underperforming right now.

 

mvg


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View PostHero2107, on 14 January 2019 - 09:34 PM, said:

Could you please take a look at the tier 5 Stug reward tank as well? It slightly underperforming right now.

 

mvg

 

Nope, because its Germans, its low tier and people in WG need more data, 5 years more. Same goes for tier 7 US TD. 

Cpt_Phantom #8 Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:09 AM

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Dimitri:Komrades,let's buff 279.

WG:Woah,Dimitri you're such a genius!You deserve a bottle of vodka.

 

How are you gonna pen him with a tier 8 ?Just shot the "weakspots" 4HEad

 



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View PostCpt_Phantom, on 15 January 2019 - 03:09 AM, said:

Dimitri:Komrades,let's buff 279.

WG:Woah,Dimitri you're such a genius!You deserve a bottle of vodka.

 

How are you gonna pen him with a tier 8 ?Just shot the "weakspots" 4HEad

 

 

You have 2, small cupolas, GL to trade 440 alpha from him, to have small chance to hit it and pen it. Even with tier 9. Because balance, comrades. Vodka for people. 

ExistanceUK #10 Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:28 AM

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I would echo Celution's comments regarding making both tanks available (presumably by crediting enough orders to skip all last missions in campaign 2).

eekeeboo #11 Posted 15 January 2019 - 05:04 PM

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View Postsady3296, on 14 January 2019 - 07:27 PM, said:

So you based this buff on what exactly?? You constalty bs us that you need data to actually change tanks or remove/change maps but now you buff the rarest t10 in the game? After 250 people on eu get it?

 

Buff 121, leo1 stb, e100 and all the other crap thats been underpowered for years!!

 

 

 

If data shows a tank underperforming in key areas, that's why you have testing to see if it's the areas you can fix or if it's another issue. 

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View Posteekeeboo, on 15 January 2019 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

If data shows a tank underperforming in key areas, that's why you have testing to see if it's the areas you can fix or if it's another issue. 

 

How is 279 under performing in any area? It has on average 65% and 3.5k dpg on the eu server...lower on ru with around 60% and 2.5k since a lot more people have it. ( still a relative small amount of people with the tank)

 

How the [edited]does that make sense? And i get its a test but holy crap.... how can you even think about buffing it?

 

They just want an even more OP reward so people play more, buy more tanks, premium, gold etc etc to finish the missions to play stronk ruski tank....



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View Postsady3296, on 15 January 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

 

How is 279 under performing in any area? It has on average 65% and 3.5k dpg on the eu server...lower on ru with around 60% and 2.5k since a lot more people have it. ( still a relative small amount of people with the tank)

 

How the [edited]does that make sense? And i get its a test but holy crap.... how can you even think about buffing it?

 

They just want an even more OP reward so people play more, buy more tanks, premium, gold etc etc to finish the missions to play stronk ruski tank....

 

Data doesn't just mean damage and winrate. 

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View Posteekeeboo, on 15 January 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

Data doesn't just mean damage and winrate. 

 

Fine.. then pls tell me what exact data led to conclusion that the 279 is under performing and needs a buff.

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View Postsady3296, on 15 January 2019 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

Fine.. then pls tell me what exact data led to conclusion that the 279 is under performing and needs a buff.

 

Dude, you don't have any access to server data, so you can't really comment can you?

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View Postsady3296, on 15 January 2019 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

Fine.. then pls tell me what exact data led to conclusion that the 279 is under performing and needs a buff.

 

Hint.... the parts that were changed and being tested? 

sady3296 #17 Posted 15 January 2019 - 06:48 PM

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View Posteekeeboo, on 15 January 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Hint.... the parts that were changed and being tested? 

 

No. Thats the result of the data. The fact that a tank has bad gun handling and bad lower plate  doesnt mean its an overall bad tank and needs a buff.

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thank WGaming finally you did somthing right for Object 279 and Chimera

please note that anyone takling about itss overpower tank they dont have the tank how can you talk about something you dont tried.

i was talking about Object 279 how its was under performing before the buffs

the gun was very bad comper to 260 which is a faster tank

the bottom hull was a thing that made this tank very poor comper to 260 which has 6 gun depression

 

one more thing in tanks.gg the upper hull have some bugs i dont if it from the website or the game some areas are 150mm effective armor in the live version

look here

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thank you again.

 

 


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View Posteekeeboo, on 15 January 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Hint.... the parts that were changed and being tested? 

 

Hse gun was far superior to IS 4 gun, Is 7 gun, 705A gun, and you buff it more. Hes belly armor is now 5 mm thicker then most belly armor of Maus who goes 20. 

Is this reason of buff, and what reaon you have to not buffing TVP VTU, Tiger, T34-2 for YEAR, do tell us. 

Edited by ares354, 15 January 2019 - 07:54 PM.


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I think that everybody feels like 279(e) did not need any buffs whatsoever. It has practically no weak points frontally and tiers 8 cannot do anything against this tank if they are not a light tank with excelent cammo rating and pen values and very far from the tank.. and seeing it´s rear. In my opinion 279 should actually get nerfed when it comes to armor values. I dont mind gun handling too much, but I feel like that´s is not a thing it needed to get buffed either. please give the tank some weak points :/




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