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Golden_War_Machine #1 Posted 08 January 2019 - 07:25 PM

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This becomes ridiculous.   7/10 matches now days are ended up with frustration and anger..... 

27 shots

19 into target

4 penetrations

I played Patton tier 10 ....Not enough penetration? 

 

For last 1k i can't make more than 5 k dmg is and i used to be a good player. my wn8 is at 2000 what has changed in my game play?  have i suddenly forgotten how to play or is  WG is doing it to me on purpose to balance with yellow bots? 

20/12/6 ...... 27/19/7......  15/10/2..... this are the numbers of shots/hits/ penetrations. RIDICULOUS....


Edited by Golden_War_Machine, 08 January 2019 - 07:29 PM.


SuedKAT #2 Posted 08 January 2019 - 07:48 PM

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Well considering they've removed a lot of frontal weakspots and buffed armor overall you most likely don't follow the meta WG have designed, shoot premium ammo or get frustrated.

Golden_War_Machine #3 Posted 08 January 2019 - 10:39 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 08 January 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

Well considering they've removed a lot of frontal weakspots and buffed armor overall you most likely don't follow the meta WG have designed, shoot premium ammo or get frustrated.

 

yes i do shot premium as per my nick  .... but thanks 

 



SuedKAT #4 Posted 08 January 2019 - 10:53 PM

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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

 

yes i do shot premium as per my nick  .... but thanks 

 

 

Well then my second guess is that the HEAT fired from your M48 Patton hit either tracks or spaced armor rather than "HEAT friendly plates", without a replay it's quite impossible to tell, but we can go on guessing forever.

Edited by SuedKAT, 12 January 2019 - 07:19 PM.


Balc0ra #5 Posted 09 January 2019 - 11:52 AM

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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

I played Patton tier 10 ....Not enough penetration? 

 

You know there are other factors then just pen alone that decides if you pen a target or not. 268 pen is more then enough for most target it faces. Even on a low roll. But since we have zero idea how you fired each shot or at what, and with what. Then it's no point taking it further as everything will just be guesses

 

View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

 

yes i do shot premium as per my nick  .... but thanks 

 

 

Then for all we know you went full HEAT and only hit modules or tracks vs pressing 1 again that would pen it. Or the impact angles changed after you fired making it more than 70 or even 85 degrees in your HEAT's case. Or you just hit spaced armor more with HEAT now vs before. As some tier 9/X tanks have a fairly large gap between their plates and their actual armor. More than enough to screw over 330mm HEAT pen at even less than 85 degrees. 

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 09 January 2019 - 11:54 AM.


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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 06:25 PM, said:

This becomes ridiculous.   7/10 matches now days are ended up with frustration and anger..... 

27 shots

19 into target

4 penetrations

I played Patton tier 10 ....Not enough penetration? 

 

For last 1k i can't make more than 5 k dmg is and i used to be a good player. my wn8 is at 2000 what has changed in my game play?  have i suddenly forgotten how to play or is  WG is doing it to me on purpose to balance with yellow bots? 

20/12/6 ...... 27/19/7......  15/10/2..... this are the numbers of shots/hits/ penetrations. RIDICULOUS....

 

Without a replay and asking something constructive it's difficult to help you in your quest to improve. 

 

(Please take this opportunity to turn the topic into something constructive and not just venting/complaining). 



DaMP13R #7 Posted 09 January 2019 - 01:41 PM

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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 06:25 PM, said:

This becomes ridiculous.   7/10 matches now days are ended up with frustration and anger..... 

27 shots

19 into target

4 penetrations

I played Patton tier 10 ....Not enough penetration? 

 

For last 1k i can't make more than 5 k dmg is and i used to be a good player. my wn8 is at 2000 what has changed in my game play?  have i suddenly forgotten how to play or is  WG is doing it to me on purpose to balance with yellow bots? 

20/12/6 ...... 27/19/7......  15/10/2..... this are the numbers of shots/hits/ penetrations. RIDICULOUS....

 

post some replays?

SiliconSidewinder #8 Posted 09 January 2019 - 02:00 PM

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there is a nice mod that allows you to check both the shots fired at you as well as those you fired on in the garage.

in combination with the 3D models of tanks gg you should be able to solve your problems.



Somnorila #9 Posted 11 January 2019 - 01:38 PM

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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 08 January 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

 

yes i do shot premium as per my nick  .... but thanks 

 

 

You still have to aim for weak spots, you don't just auto-aim or point reticle at the enemy and deal damage.  

Check if you have server reticle activated so you actually shoot at what you want. RNG will still happen but at least is on your terms.


Edited by Somnorila, 11 January 2019 - 01:39 PM.


AzoreanOutkast #10 Posted 12 January 2019 - 04:36 PM

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Probrably heat is the problem.

 

The tank i play the most, not cause im good in it, its because i fell inlove with it and like using it, despite being average at best with it is the chinese T-34-3 and that tank hasnt got the best pen with AP shells so most of the maps and time i go full heat at start and just switch to AP when there is way too many obstacles in the way of the shots or its a softer target, and i get alot of fustration from shots that actually hit the enemy but do absolutely nothing to them...

 

Heat is a 2 edge sword, sure it has pen value but... If there is spaced armor, or if the tracks absorve the shot or angle is big that shot wont do anything to the enemy.

 

As stated here, check the shots u are taking, and post some replays so we can better understand what is going on, but i still believe that is your current problem.



Golden_War_Machine #11 Posted 15 January 2019 - 05:28 PM

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here we go again .. batchat 21/14/4

Golden_War_Machine #12 Posted 15 January 2019 - 05:41 PM

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View PostAzoreanOutkast, on 12 January 2019 - 03:36 PM, said:

Probrably heat is the problem.

 

The tank i play the most, not cause im good in it, its because i fell inlove with it and like using it, despite being average at best with it is the chinese T-34-3 and that tank hasnt got the best pen with AP shells so most of the maps and time i go full heat at start and just switch to AP when there is way too many obstacles in the way of the shots or its a softer target, and i get alot of fustration from shots that actually hit the enemy but do absolutely nothing to them...

 

Heat is a 2 edge sword, sure it has pen value but... If there is spaced armor, or if the tracks absorve the shot or angle is big that shot wont do anything to the enemy.

 

As stated here, check the shots u are taking, and post some replays so we can better understand what is going on, but i still believe that is your current problem.

 

that's why i sold t34-3 - I understand what you are saying, even after buff the one will shoot with no pen. So this been said its not a solution to  the problem.

View PostSomnorila, on 11 January 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

You still have to aim for weak spots, you don't just auto-aim or point reticle at the enemy and deal damage.  

Check if you have server reticle activated so you actually shoot at what you want. RNG will still happen but at least is on your terms.

 

yes i know what you are saying- but do you understand that every shot has its own +/- landing point? it says in cannon description under dimension-  you can aim at weak spot but its the server which will decide where it will land- take copolas for example +/- few cm and you wont cause damage .

View PostDaMP13R, on 09 January 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

post some replays?

 

what for ? - its server thing - i know where to aim and how to shot- common .... however could you share some of your rplays so i could see what am i doing wrong?

 



eekeeboo #13 Posted 15 January 2019 - 06:24 PM

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View PostGolden_War_Machine, on 15 January 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

 

what for ? - its server thing - i know where to aim and how to shot- common .... however could you share some of your rplays so i could see what am i doing wrong?

 

Because if a replay is submitted by the person you can assess what THEY are doing wrong/could do better. 

 

It's like you providing me a replay and how it's going to show me what I did wrong in a previous game. I hope you can see the flawed nature of that request. 



Baldrickk #14 Posted 15 January 2019 - 06:59 PM

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He's complaining about not being able to beat 5k dmg at tier X, in the newcomers section.

Anyone think that this thread belongs elsewhere?




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