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stock tiger tiger I. tier 9 unbalanced af

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Stuka01210 #1 Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:45 PM

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So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

LordSkyFury #2 Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:48 PM

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Use 10.5 cm gun with HE only and pray for good hits or free XP modules.

Dava_117 #3 Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:49 PM

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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

 

Not gonna lie to you, stock Tiger1 grind is awfull, at least untill you get the top gun. 

The best you can do without it is to stick to med line, where armour are less problematic.

Or you may platoon with frinds: you will jave some team mate you can rely on and there is an exp bonus for platoons too. :)



OreH75 #4 Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

 

Why shoot at the tier 9 if there are also tier 8 and 7 in that match? It's not like you are the only tier 7....

wEight_Tanker #5 Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:49 PM

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Deal with it. It'll all pay off when you get everything researched.

Traimi1 #6 Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:04 PM

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aim for the weak spots and flank them man. all is good

edit: play support = instawin every game

Edited by Traimi1, 09 January 2019 - 05:05 PM.


PanzerKFeldherrnhalle #7 Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:09 PM

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You need to flank, especially if it's stock. Stock tanks that go 25 are the best suited to flank. If that doesn't work you can try going outside the maps' borders and search for enemies of your tier to fight.

Happyfrags #8 Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:54 PM

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Mount the 88 L56 you have from the VK36.

  • Take 20 goldshell "just in case".
  • Use your 2600 DPM against tank with less than 150mm armor (follow your medium)
  • You can trade health even against T8 tank because you have huge health pool and insane DPM. 

Edited by Happyfrags, 09 January 2019 - 05:57 PM.


Hedgehog1963 #9 Posted 09 January 2019 - 06:16 PM

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There are 7 Tier VII tanks on the enemy team.  Shoot them.

Balc0ra #10 Posted 09 January 2019 - 06:25 PM

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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

 

​You are assuming damage is the only way to get XP, and that the short 88 is the only viable gun. The 10.5cm derp has no issues tracking a tier 9 or smacking the side of a 50 100 for 300 damage. And if MM did set you up based on what gun you had etc. It would be abused as all heck. 

 

But how you bounce 145 pen vs the side of a 50 100 that's 35mm? Unless you aim for the wheels that has no armor behind it, or you are only going for shots with an 70 degree impact angle, as your 88 can't overmatch that. Or you are hitting the front side panels that from the side is already at a high impact angle. And can give enough effective armor to bounce your 88 shots. 

 

If so, you need to aim more carefully, or take a few minutes to learn where to aim on high tiers. As not every gun will auto pen everything it faces, even on a HT facing equal tier's. And that changes drastically the higher tiers you go. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 09 January 2019 - 06:30 PM.


Homer_J #11 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:12 PM

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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger.

 

The question is why do you have a stock Tiger I when you have to unlock the 88 on the VK to get to the Tiger?

QPoszto #12 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:29 PM

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Good luck bro, tiger is a good tank, u have a good gun but nothing more. Hide behind the other ht s who has also some armor and try to do some snapshots. More you cant cuz its a german tonk, and keep calm tiger II will be worse.

SiliconSidewinder #13 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:34 PM

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View PostHappyfrags, on 09 January 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

Mount the 88 L56 you have from the VK36.

  • Take 20 goldshell "just in case".
  • Use your 2600 DPM against tank with less than 150mm armor (follow your medium)
  • You can trade health even against T8 tank because you have huge health pool and insane DPM. 

 

 

basically this, you have a decent gun all you need is a oportunity to use the DPM. wait for the right moment, get stuck in and just keep blasting away.

and mind you there are three Tier IX enemies max. these days so it should be easy enough to find a decent target.



veso_vn #14 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:40 PM

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Sadly the Tiger tanks sux a lot in the game . When a think a little most of real tank in the game sux just play paper tanks like type 5 which in reality will be slow as hell (even if he manage to move at all)

johncl #15 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:48 PM

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It's simple     Bend over Grease up good ..And ask them to be quick ,   Or give wargamming money to get the Tiger fully up graded and then..........   

Bend over Grease up good ..And ask them to be quick



gpalsson #16 Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:49 PM

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Well you are meant to be free exp pinata for the enemy high tiers, but in some games you can do well against enemy tier 7s if you position yourself properly and don't do stupid crap.

QPoszto #17 Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:24 PM

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View Postgpalsson, on 09 January 2019 - 07:49 PM, said:

Well you are meant to be free exp pinata for the enemy high tiers, but in some games you can do well against enemy tier 7s if you position yourself properly and don't do stupid crap.

If we look at the current mm.90% he gonna sck cuz no way that he gonna penetrate any tier 9 or some of the tier 8 frontally.  And pure tier 7 or below he dont really gonna see.



Frostilicus #18 Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:28 PM

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View PostQPoszto, on 09 January 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

If we look at the current mm.90% he gonna sck cuz no way that he gonna penetrate any tier 9 or some of the tier 8 frontally.  And pure tier 7 or below he dont really gonna see.

 

60% of the time, it works all of the time....

 

As a tier 7 heavy you aren't in the battle to take on the Tier 9 tanks, there will be 7 other tier 7 tanks for you to help your team with.

 

Lastly - you shouldn't really be trying to pen anything frontally anyway - especially against higher tier opposition, try and get shots into the sides/rear where the armour is more reliably penned



LOROVIRUS #19 Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:35 PM

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View PostFrostilicus, on 09 January 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

 

60% of the time, it works all of the time....

 

As a tier 7 heavy you aren't in the battle to take on the Tier 9 tanks, there will be 7 other tier 7 tanks for you to help your team with.

 

Lastly - you shouldn't really be trying to pen anything frontally anyway - especially against higher tier opposition, try and get shots into the sides/rear where the armour is more reliably penned

 

And how this is going to work for example on Mountain Pass?

 



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View PostLOROVIRUS, on 09 January 2019 - 07:35 PM, said:

 

And how this is going to work for example on Mountain Pass?

 

 

For me, it would involve letting the 8 x tier 8 and above vehicles head out first, and act in support to those - applies to pretty much any map though really, not just mountain pass  :)




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