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stock tiger tiger I. tier 9 unbalanced af

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captainpigg #21 Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:02 PM

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View PostLordSkyFury, on 09 January 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

Use 10.5 cm gun with HE only and pray for good hits or free XP modules.

 

Please don't follow this troll/idiotic "advice". as the the others above have said 88mm L56 with a good amount of gold till you get the L71.

 

Btw be thankful for 3/5/7, I've remember being stock in my Tiger 1 and being the only tier 7 on either side.


Edited by captainpigg, 09 January 2019 - 09:06 PM.


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View PostLOROVIRUS, on 09 January 2019 - 08:35 PM, said:

 

And how this is going to work for example on Mountain Pass?

 

 

Te enemy has the same problem then..

 



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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

 

Don't play stock tanks .. innit. 

Gkirmathal #24 Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:14 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 09 January 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

Btw be thankful for 3/5/7, I've remember being stock in my Tiger 1 and being the only tier 7 on either side.

 

Off topic: and luckily this was only a fluke of the old system and not a majority of your games occurrence, like being bottom tier is nowadays. That the 3-5-7 priority is forcing upon the player base.

 

On topic:

@Stuka, grind up free xp through your elited lower tier tanks you already have. Use that free xp to slowly unlock modules. Use XP 3x/5x events to get a faster xp on the Tiger it self. In the mean time suffer while playing it to get a win for 2x/3x/5x and for the rest collect free xp.


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OP: whilst it's a bit selfish, don't forget the Tiger I has an excellent view range; put optics on it, and you'll spot a lot of things first - as well as helping keep you safe whilst you grind the L71, it'll earn you xp and silver for spotting damage etc. The L56 isn't too awful too, provided you pack some gold rounds as well - you're a pretty decent ambush hunter of lights/mediums when grinding the top upgrades.

 

Even when you're fully upgraded, this is still not a bad approach (with most of the variations on the theme of Tiger), only then you can make use of your heroic DPM at the same time...



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View PostHomer_J, on 09 January 2019 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

The question is why do you have a stock Tiger I when you have to unlock the 88 on the VK to get to the Tiger?

 

This^, and what is it with all these players with no patience, just play tanks you've a;ready elited with acc crew training on and 5% of all the xp you earn is free xp + boosters you'll get the top gun in no time (and you get better crews in the process)

 

there were no boosters in my day and the tier spread was wider and i had no problems with it



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View PostFrostilicus, on 09 January 2019 - 08:59 PM, said:

 

For me, it would involve letting the 8 x tier 8 and above vehicles head out first, and act in support to those - applies to pretty much any map though really, not just mountain pass  :)

 

And after few minutes you are against enemy tier 8 and above anyway.

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True tiger 1 and 2 need some little love.

But i see a lot of Tiger 1 and 2 players doing nothing.

Atleast try to contribute  hide behind another heavy take the second shot.

Or when its 2 vs 1 let your heavy brawl with the other and you sneak at his side when he shot.

I even sacrificed myself lots of times for my team to get them some spotting shots in.or track the enemy heavy so my artys can bomb his [edited]

But the Tigers i see lately are camping behind the tds  everyone gets killed and there they are alone contributed Sh*t to the game.

And if you say something about it its always the same excuse this tank sucks....yeah we know but doing totally nothing dont help either.

 

 

 



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View PostRobbie_T, on 09 January 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

And if you say something about it its always the same excuse this tank sucks....yeah we know but doing totally nothing dont help either.

 

 

I do sometimes wonder if the more 'easy mode' heavies (Russians, mainly) make people lazy - Tiger I especially is actually pretty good, provided you use it to its strengths, and don't expect it to be an IS type brawler.

 

Fully tooled up, you're pretty good at mid-long range, with very high dpm, and the view range to not be dependent on others for spotting; provided one has the wit to hide the lfp, and park at an angle to incoming fire, the Tiger I can withstand a not unreasonable amount of incoming fire (okay, you're boned if a T9 takes a serious interest in you, but not many T7s aren't).

 

Whilst the Tiger I isn't an all-powerful invulnerable fortress of doom, it certainly doesn't suck! I have to admit to being less impressed with Tiger II, mainly because it does less well against T10s than Tiger I does against T9s.


Edited by Verblonde, 09 January 2019 - 11:23 PM.


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View PostStuka01210, on 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

So as already seen in title, I get matched against tier 9. in a stock Tiger. 3 matches in a row in tier 9, then some tier 8 matches and then tier 9. again. Is this a joke? Are they purposely matching me against tier 8/9 where I can't damage sh*t? Not gonna lie it ruins the fun for me when all I do is lose without damaging. You know it's not fun when you can't penetrate the paper AMX 50 100 from the side. I'm losing a lot of money because of it and I can hardly progress. I might have started 7 years ago but there is a reason I stopped for years. Gave it another chance today but I understand why I stopped back then. At least I got 5 mills as a reward to lose.

 

Yes this game is THAT bad. And no DEVs care so it will die soon . Its getting worse and worse every month

TankkiPoju #31 Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:34 AM

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Just flank them, of course.

malachi6 #32 Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:59 AM

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Nothing is forcing you to fight tier 9's at the start of the game.  And if push comes to shove.  Shoot tracks and let the big boys do the damage. 

 

As to a bottleneck fight.  you make them come to you or use numbers to go round them


Edited by malachi6, 10 January 2019 - 08:10 AM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #33 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:05 AM

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The safest way to avoid tier 9 (or any tier for that matter) is to... stop playing this game. After all, 3000 battles in 7 years... let's say WoT doesn't seem to be your favorite game or anything.

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Save the stock grind on the Tiger until this weekend when its x2 xp for every win and then play it like crazy (with platoon mates that can help you out). If you have lots of credits then load lots of gold premium special ammo to compensate for the awful pen, or alternatively use the derp as already suggested (shell cost is lot lower too that way so should make you credits). 


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View PostLOROVIRUS, on 09 January 2019 - 07:35 PM, said:

 

And how this is going to work for example on Mountain Pass?

 

 

Mountain pass has four routes.  The three enemy top tier heavies can't go all four at once, in fact you can pretty much be certain they will go glacier.  So don't go that way.

 

But I'm a heavy I hear you cry.  Well when you are bottom tier, no you are a slow medium.  You have to play accordingly.



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View PostHomer_J, on 10 January 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

 

Mountain pass has four routes.  The three enemy top tier heavies can't go all four at once, in fact you can pretty much be certain they will go glacier.  So don't go that way.

 

But I'm a heavy I hear you cry.  Well when you are bottom tier, no you are a slow medium.  You have to play accordingly.

 

It is more accurate to say that Mountain Pass has one route and some less useful alternatives. It is a terrible map, the sort which only highlights the issues with 3/5/7 and +/-2 MM. 

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View PostOreH75, on 09 January 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

Why shoot at the tier 9 if there are also tier 8 and 7 in that match? It's not like you are the only tier 7....

 

Stock tiger is not fun even against other tier 7, that has been that way for ever (I still remember my stock grind in the tiger...)

 

It is the new template model that is screwing your grind even more. But you know the solution right? Pay premium for more income so you can spam gold. Use gold to transfer your XP from tanks to free XP... or suffer!



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"Well when you are bottom tier, no you are a slow medium.  You have to play accordingly"

That's the best advice.  Regardless of where you go on the map expect to see the T9, you can expect them to see you before you see them anyway.    I find the "fight T 7's then" a trite answer.  its not that simple and we all know it.


 

So pretend you are not heavy and go the other way.   I find even as fully researched tank I go the other route if I am lowest tier I can pen the higher tier lights and meds.  Its just getting there before being wrecked.



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View PostEviscerador, on 10 January 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

 

Stock tiger is not fun even against other tier 7, that has been that way for ever (I still remember my stock grind in the tiger...)

 

It is the new template model that is screwing your grind even more. But you know the solution right? Pay premium for more income so you can spam gold. Use gold to transfer your XP from tanks to free XP... or suffer!

 

Yes the template sux when grinding tanks, go look up some posts of me in the MM discussion thread, completely agree with that.

 

But that backstabbing about premium, gold and free XP is not necessary at all bob. I grind my way through all tanks (can look that up as well) and with a premium account the additional XP is useful to speed up the grind and I only use free XP to skip some modules if the basic ones really really suck. My current grinds are O-Ho, Charioteer, P43.ter and 45TP and the last 2 I just played enough to upgrade the tracks/engine. So dont accuse me of freeXP'ing complete tank/tank lines please. Also I don't "spam" gold, I have ~1/3 gold shells in those tanks I wont deny that but only shoot them when necessary. 

 



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View PostSlyspy, on 10 January 2019 - 09:40 AM, said:

 

It is more accurate to say that Mountain Pass has one route and some less useful alternatives. It is a terrible map, the sort which only highlights the issues with 3/5/7 and +/-2 MM. 

 

Glacier and the long route are both useful routes.  Bridge needs covering and if the other side don't then it becomes a flanking route.  Mid lake is the least useful but even then fast tanks can make it useful providing the long route is also secured.

 

If I was playing stock Tiger, which I wouldn't but if I was then I would go to the middle and be support in case anything tries to come bridge or lake.  If your team does well you can then storm the bridge and help with the mop up.






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