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eekeeboo #1 Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:16 PM

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Today, a Premium Tier VIII US tank destroyer makes its debut in closed testing.

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This is a well-protected machine designed for close quarters combat. And we mean it, it’s very, very well-protected—the frontal armor of the hull hits 260 millimeters! The weapon is fast-firing and hard-hitting—the DPM is more than 2800 hit points, with single-shot damage of 400 HP and basic shell penetration of 248 mm. As for the mobility, it’s the norm for a heavy machine with a max speed of 26 km/h.

 

The precision and speed of the shells do limit the effectiveness of the TS-5 over long distances, but it’s not terrible and, if needed, this American can get up close to deal with opponents. After all, this is a hard-shelled tank destroyer, which will feel right at home in defending a line of attack during the battle. It can also help bring out those “entrenched” enemies from their safe positions. Moreover, it can shake off shells from higher tiered opponents when played effectively, especially if you can hide the lower frontal plate, which is its biggest weak spot.

 

In summary, the TS-5 is a hard-shelled, but a slightly sluggish armored vehicle with a quick-firing, hard-hitting armament perfect for getting up close and brawling.

 

As always, depending on the test results, the characteristics may change. Follow the news and good luck in your battles!

 

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Edited by eekeeboo, 09 January 2019 - 04:16 PM.


AsiaDawn #2 Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:32 PM

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Dont forget to make it OverPowered!! 

Cause we wont buy it, if it is not!!

 

MUST be OP!!!  We all like to compare it to Scorp G!!! SO MAKE IT MORE POWERFUL!



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View Posteekeeboo, on 09 January 2019 - 04:16 PM, said:

Today, a Premium Tier VIII US tank destroyer makes its debut in closed testing.

supertest-TS-5_EN.jpg

 

This is a well-protected machine designed for close quarters combat. And we mean it, it’s very, very well-protected—the frontal armor of the hull hits 260 millimeters! The weapon is fast-firing and hard-hitting—the DPM is more than 2800 hit points, with single-shot damage of 400 HP and basic shell penetration of 248 mm. As for the mobility, it’s the norm for a heavy machine with a max speed of 26 km/h.

 

The precision and speed of the shells do limit the effectiveness of the TS-5 over long distances, but it’s not terrible and, if needed, this American can get up close to deal with opponents. After all, this is a hard-shelled tank destroyer, which will feel right at home in defending a line of attack during the battle. It can also help bring out those “entrenched” enemies from their safe positions. Moreover, it can shake off shells from higher tiered opponents when played effectively, especially if you can hide the lower frontal plate, which is its biggest weak spot.

 

In summary, the TS-5 is a hard-shelled, but a slightly sluggish armored vehicle with a quick-firing, hard-hitting armament perfect for getting up close and brawling.

 

As always, depending on the test results, the characteristics may change. Follow the news and good luck in your battles!

 

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Another thing, a very important thing is - if WG wants to REBALANCE the premium shells- why this thing has 400dmg on standart and 400dmg on Gold shells??

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View PostAsiaDawn, on 10 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

 

Another thing, a very important thing is - if WG wants to REBALANCE the premium shells- why this thing has 400dmg on standart and 400dmg on Gold shells??

 

Because everything else does full damage also.

 

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Tijsbeek993 #5 Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:50 PM

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OP. Such a high alpha. 260mm armor.
GG

The alpha is getting higher. higher.. and once again higher.
And 260mm armor?
TF?
So whe need to aim for the 2 key to pen a TD?

eekeeboo #6 Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:53 PM

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One word: "Testing" 

 

"As always, depending on the test results, the characteristics may change. Follow the news and good luck in your battles!" 



Cobra6 #7 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:58 PM

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I'm wondering about the armour profile but I do hope it has viable frontal weakspots for same tier AP ammo, and not like 1 pixel ones but proper ones. 260 hull armour would otherwise be completely unbalanced for a tier 8 where the average standard penetration is 205mm/210mm.

 

As for the other factors, nice DPM but slow so that is well balanced.

 

When I see 2800DPM though on the standard 120mm gun, I am left wondering why my T34 still has 1600, more then 1200 (3 shots per minute) less.........

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 10 January 2019 - 09:01 PM.


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Fuckin' hell 0,44 accuracy. I got edited just by looking at that number.

Edited by eekeeboo, 11 January 2019 - 02:17 PM.


fighting_falcon93 #9 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:49 PM

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0.44 accuracy :facepalm:

 

And on top of that we already have +/- 25% penetration, +/- 25% damage, and an aiming circle distribution with more spread than a gymnastic hooker. WG, maybe you should drop competetive games development and run a casino instead?

 



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It look like a defender but without the lowerplate armor weakspot and with 1000 extra DPM.

Do you plan to make it a T9 premium ? Because it have the state to compete and beat some T9.


Edited by Happyfrags, 11 January 2019 - 12:20 AM.


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View PostHappyfrags, on 10 January 2019 - 11:19 PM, said:

It look like a defender but without the lowerplate armor weakspot and with 1000 extra DPM.

Do you plan to make it a T9 premium ? Because it have the state to compete and beat some T9.

 

Not at all, huge factor you're leaving out is that the Defender has a turret.. this has no turret and a narrow gun traverse angles. 

 

This tank isn't OP for a tier 8 TD of this nature, looks also like it will have the usual copula weakspot found on these kind of US TDs.. T95, T28 etc. (If it doesn't then maybe we could discuss it being OP.. maybe)

 

I mean consider what you are saying.. a tier 9, really? Tortoise, T95, Object 263... this doesn't compete there at all.

 

If anything I'd say 0.4 would of been enough rather than 0.44 but testing will probably bring some changes would be my guess. 


Edited by DaMP13R, 11 January 2019 - 07:32 AM.


satakuua #12 Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:38 AM

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Could there please be something else than tier VIII premiums for a change?

 

Though could just be down to the fact I have been away for a while, so still not used to this ”nothing happens outside of tiers VIII-X thing”.



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View Posteekeeboo, on 10 January 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

One word: "Testing" 

 

"As always, depending on the test results, the characteristics may change. Follow the news and good luck in your battles!" 

 

I am a little bit dumb xD
The T28 has the same armor. I didn't do my research.

Sorry xD
I don't hate you guys, I was just too bored to do my research.


Sorry! Sometimes im just a little bit lazy xD
 

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View Post_VoiVittu_, on 10 January 2019 - 05:07 PM, said:

 

Because everything else does full damage also.

 

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just retarded..though we will have MAJOR changes this year...

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View PostCobra6, on 10 January 2019 - 08:58 PM, said:

I'm wondering about the armour profile but I do hope it has viable frontal weakspots for same tier AP ammo, and not like 1 pixel ones but proper ones. 260 hull armour would otherwise be completely unbalanced for a tier 8 where the average standard penetration is 205mm/210mm.

 

As for the other factors, nice DPM but slow so that is well balanced.

 

When I see 2800DPM though on the standard 120mm gun, I am left wondering why my T34 still has 1600, more then 1200 (3 shots per minute) less.........

 

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With the current maps i'd say you're right, all tanks should have visible weak spots that can be penetrated with cheap AP.

But this is not that good regarding tank roles. I think that it's ok to have some with no frontal weak spots at all. Some fast, some stealthy and so on. But we need better maps to let the tanks use their strengths.

Anyway if this would at least be similar to t28 i'm ok with it. And i mean very similar, meaning identical besides model but have all the same strengths and drawbacks. The way it seems this would be is like a slightly better t28 just because maps are better suited for brawling tanks. So this being a close combat vehicle with high firepower too seems to me to be a bit too much. This is why some say that the game is pay to win, you pay to get better vehicles than their branch counterparts. If the maps were balanced properly or better suited for sniping then t28 would had been i the lead and would make sense to have a slightly worse premium counterpart. 

I'd really like back spotting and sniping like it used to be in 2013...



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Seems like more broken T28... on that at least the frontal 254 armor is literally perfectly flat, but on this thing its rounded, so will bounce majority of 330 heat aswell, unless one hits right next to mantlet. Then on top of that the cupola seems to be significantly smaller than the ones on t28.

 

Considering that T28 on T8 is already overperforming and is completely broken against all t6-8 tanks, this thing with its better armor and top speed will be completely broken even against most t9 tanks, only downside being it has potato accuracy, but that doesnt matter since it will be able to just sit in front of anything with less than 300 pen and sling shots at them until enough hit and penetrate.

 

Assuming it has the same sort of lfp as t28, if it has weaker lfp - as in, not 230 as T28 has, but perheaps something like 190, then id say its fine - while still being broken/op when hiding lfp, when not hiding lfp (and being so slow that it cant just go hide its lfp within 10 seconds after getting shot at) it would be big enough downside.



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It seems like this new premium TD is still being designed/developed, versus the "9.19 prioritization of the 3-5-7 template" environment**, in which it sees a much higher percentage of bottom (read tier X) games. And seemingly not the future plans to for the MM which are being tested.

 

Being premium content for which consumers pay real money, it has to be made "resilient" versus said environment. Otherwise WG stands the chance of consumers wanting to reimburse their expenditure, or it selling poorly. Thus it probably be better and will power creep (in some extent or form) regular tier 8 f2p content. The ones that have not yet been (or ever will be) adjusted versus said ** environment, like the T28 that has been readjusted to be more resilient.

 

We have to wait and see, though I expect this to be buffed (resulting in the above) right before release and this being a premium WG will not nerf it even if the MM environment would change and than this piece of content will be skewing tier 8 balance and balance gaps even more.


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View PostTijsbeek993, on 10 January 2019 - 06:50 PM, said:

OP. Such a high alpha. 260mm armor.
GG

The alpha is getting higher. higher.. and once again higher.
And 260mm armor?
TF?
So whe need to aim for the 2 key to pen a TD?

The alpha dmg is the same as the regular tech tree T28 and the T28 prototype, so I dont understand what you mean with "and once again higher"...?

And dont most ASSAULT TDs have thick frontal armour that requires premium ammo to even have a chance to pen? Dont see much difference there either.

 

View Postcro001, on 10 January 2019 - 10:51 PM, said:

Fuckin' hell 0,44 accuracy. I got ebola just by looking at that number.

I guess WG really mean it when they said its an ASSAULT tank; no redline sniping in this thing!

 

 

View Postsatakuua, on 11 January 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

Could there please be something else than tier VIII premiums for a change?

Agreed in general. Except this would be the very FIRST and so far ONLY American Tier 8 premium TD, and that is something a number of players have been asking for for a long time. Anything non-Russian for the next two years is good news in my books, even though some new mid tiers would indeed be nice. 



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View PostTijsbeek993, on 11 January 2019 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

I am a little bit dumb xD
The T28 has the same armor. I didn't do my research.

Sorry xD
I don't hate you guys, I was just too bored to do my research.


Sorry! Sometimes im just a little bit lazy xD
 

 

That's fine, I just had to be very concise and to the point, because you were not alone ;) 

 

 



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View Postundutchable80, on 11 January 2019 - 01:39 PM, said:

I guess WG really mean it when they said its an ASSAULT tank; no redline sniping in this thing!

 

I know and it's not such terrible idea to deter average potato from sniping in assault TD but damn,...






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