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VicuBlack #1 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:25 AM

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im gonna use 100%trained girl on m24 chaffee , what role should i put it for her ? commander ? all others are only 61% trained

Babbet_1 #2 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:40 AM

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Yes, make her commander - and give her 6th sense as her 100% trained skill. Also recommend you spend a few credits when you can to improve major qualification of the rest of crew - 61% is just horrible!  Good luck!  :)

ekawalaski #3 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:40 AM

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Premium crews should be commanders. The reason is that they already come with Sisterhood of Steel as zero, so you do not need to train it. Also, the first skill/perk will be Sixth sense, or you will never know you got spotted or if an enemy is nearby. The 3rd skill/perk (which in this case will be 2nd) should be camo/concealment. Camo will start working incrementally, so it will help you in case the other crew got it.

 

Does it make sense?



Babbet_1 #4 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:52 AM

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View Postekawalaski, on 10 January 2019 - 08:40 AM, said:

Premium crews should be commanders. The reason is that they already come with Sisterhood of Steel as zero, so you do not need to train it. Also, the first skill/perk will be Sixth sense, or you will never know you got spotted or if an enemy is nearby. The 3rd skill/perk (which in this case will be 2nd) should be camo/concealment. Camo will start working incrementally, so it will help you in case the other crew got it.

 

Does it make sense?

 

Agree with most of this, but OP is a long way from SoS/BiA being effective, if rest of crew are only at 61% major qualification. All crew must have BiA trained to 100% before it starts to work. Better to start concealment on all crew ASAP,  and switch to BiA later.

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Grinding through Chaffee right now and i must say it's even better than it was before light tanks rebalance. It's so good, it's probably the best tier 5 scout right now :rolleyes:

Somnorila #6 Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:32 AM

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I like to have balanced crews. One reason for why i have one dedicated team for all my tanks, well besides premium tanks.

Your idea is good, at least get in with 6th sense. But i would put all crew with girls or men. I don't like to mix them up, i keep premium crews and non premium crews, male and female, separated. I will probably make an exception some time later when i will find some use for the holiday/missions girls and that claus guy.

My lowest crew is on Conqueror where i just reached second skill. It's a standard crew started at 75% and raised on Black Prince and Conqueror mostly at daily doubles with xp and crew enhancers activated. I advice you to always use silver to get at least 75% for new crews. Also for highly skilled crews, between 2-3 perks silver retraining is still pretty ok. Only over 4 skills the xp loss seems too big for a standard crew to still do it without gold.

So i could had used the premium crew boy/girls which are not yet recruited and put them on Conq. But because i had already at around 80% on second skill i thought that it would be a waste to make that switch. Anyway when you reach the 3rd skill, your tanks will perform good enough to not feel that crew skills are lacking.



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View PostVicuBlack, on 10 January 2019 - 07:25 AM, said:

 all others are only 61% trained

 

What?

 

Really, there is no reason to not have that crew at least at 75%.  Really they should be 90% carried over from the tank before.

 

But yes, commander will boost the whole crew by 10%.  Then put 6th sense on as first perk and mentor as second skill to bring the rest of the crew on faster.

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View PostSomnorila, on 10 January 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

 Also for highly skilled crews, between 2-3 perks silver retraining is still pretty ok. Only over 4 skills the xp loss seems too big for a standard crew to still do it without gold.

 

 

Retraining to 90% with credits is fine, no matter how many skills they have as the loss is fixed to 10% of major qualification.  Resetting skills once you have a full one is a big loss in exp and I would recommend avoiding it.

Somnorila #8 Posted 10 January 2019 - 02:47 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 10 January 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:

Retraining to 90% with credits is fine, no matter how many skills they have as the loss is fixed to 10% of major qualification.  Resetting skills once you have a full one is a big loss in exp and I would recommend avoiding it.

You're right, resetting is what i had in mind when i said it although i was talking about something else...

Training crew for a new vehicle without gold, you lose only qualification xp and not personal skills\perks xp, that's just when you reset skills. When i was first playing the game, some would propose to reset skills so you start a new tank with old crew directly at 100%. Which you can do it, but you lose a lot more xp than just playing from 80 or 90% to 100%. The xp needed is the same for crew getting at 100% in a vehicle, but the xp needed fro a crew member to rise his skills is increasing the further you advance, so like "1% in 5-6 skill is like the entire first one". There are calculators which are more accurate than my presumption :) 


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Gremlin182 #9 Posted 10 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

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Given the battle count im assuming he is a bit low on credits right now.

All the advice given is sound all the OP needs to do is let the credit pool build up so they can always retrain for credits.

61% crew doesn't surprise me its only when your tank progress slows down a little, you get a couple of tier 5 tanks with equipment that you reach this point.



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If the rest is at 61 they are probably 55% + 6 from the current commander.

If so it would be worth it to use 20000 credits per crew-member to train the others to 75% (thus 85% effective). 

 

I would do gunner,driver,loader if you would have to do it one at the time.

If you are playing pure scout and not shooting much you could do the driver first. 

 

It´s still a long way to 100% and the useful stuff like camo from there.



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View PostGremlin182, on 10 January 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:

Given the battle count im assuming he is a bit low on credits right now.

 

Not an excuse.

 

You don't buy a new tank until you have the credits for the tank, to retrain the crew, and to supply it with shells.   You just don't.

 

And they are throwing credits at us right now.  Tier 4 tanks can complete StuG missions, there's loads to be made there.



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 10 January 2019 - 10:09 AM, said:

Grinding through Chaffee right now and i must say it's even better than it was before light tanks rebalance. It's so good, it's probably the best tier 5 scout right now :rolleyes:

No it isn't.  They nerfed it twice.

 

As for best tier 5 light... Leopard is technically stronger,  and T-50 got buffed massively when moved up to tier 5, taking the top spot. 


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View PostBaldrickk, on 10 January 2019 - 07:23 PM, said:

No it isn't.  They nerfed it twice.

 

As for best tier 5 light... Leopard is technically stronger,  and T-50 got buffed massively when moved up to tier 5, taking the top spot. 

 

I forgot to add "i feel like" part 

Babbet_1 #14 Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:12 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 10 January 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

 

Not an excuse.

 

You don't buy a new tank until you have the credits for the tank, to retrain the crew, and to supply it with shells.   You just don't.

 

And they are throwing credits at us right now.  Tier 4 tanks can complete StuG missions, there's loads to be made there.

 

C'mon now Homer, that's a wee bit harsh don't you think? The guy may well have got it from the Christmas missions. And given that crew training is pretty complicated to get your head round, with less than 1k battles, surely we can cut him a bit of slack. 

At least he didn't go straight out and buy a tier 8 premium (as far as we know!)  :)



Homer_J #15 Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:03 PM

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View PostBabbet_1, on 10 January 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

 

C'mon now Homer, that's a wee bit harsh

 

Harsh....

 

 

...but true.

 

At least as far as a tier 5 scout goes.

 

Tier 3 is acceptable to have a 50% crew, at least those you don't get at 100% in the tier 1.

 

And crew training is well explained in the training.  Heck they give you a US commander with 6th sense and a 100% crew to go with, granted it's for a medium but still.



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View PostBabbet_1, on 10 January 2019 - 08:12 PM, said:

 

C'mon now Homer, that's a wee bit harsh don't you think? The guy may well have got it from the Christmas missions. And given that crew training is pretty complicated to get your head round, with less than 1k battles, surely we can cut him a bit of slack. 

At least he didn't go straight out and buy a tier 8 premium (as far as we know!)  :)

Back in the day, I spent the time downloading and installing the client to read through the wiki.

 

Kind of like when I bought PS and Dreamcast games as a kid, and would read through the included manuals in the car on the way home so that I knew what I was doing when I finally got to play.

 

I still had to learn how to be good, but I knew what I was doing and how the game worked.



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View PostBaldrickk, on 11 January 2019 - 03:11 AM, said:

Back in the day, I spent the time downloading and installing the client to read through the wiki.

 

Kind of like when I bought PS and Dreamcast games as a kid, and would read through the included manuals in the car on the way home so that I knew what I was doing when I finally got to play.

 

I still had to learn how to be good, but I knew what I was doing and how the game worked.

 

In a perfect world we would all do this, but I rather suspect you are very much in a minority Baldrickk! My wife is constantly remonstrating with me, for trying to put newly acquired things together, or get them working, without reading the instructions! :confused:

Baldrickk #18 Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:13 AM

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View PostBabbet_1, on 11 January 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

 

In a perfect world we would all do this, but I rather suspect you are very much in a minority Baldrickk! My wife is constantly remonstrating with me, for trying to put newly acquired things together, or get them working, without reading the instructions! :confused:

only read the instructions when I've got time :P

Figuring out how things work is half the fun. 

 

Currently doing a puzzle without referencing the box.  That's fun and an additional challenge, but also I'm doing it to relax, with no pressures like say, an opposing team trying to remove pieces from the table...

 

And yeah, common sense seems to be a rare commodity these days. 


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View PostBaldrickk, on 11 January 2019 - 02:11 AM, said:

Back in the day, I spent the time downloading and installing the client to read through the wiki.

 

 

View PostBabbet_1, on 11 January 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

 

In a perfect world we would all do this,

 

No need to.  The game pressures you into doing the basic training, at the end of which you should have a pretty good idea that a 50% crew is bad.



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View PostHomer_J, on 11 January 2019 - 10:31 AM, said:

 

 

No need to.  The game pressures you into doing the basic training, at the end of which you should have a pretty good idea that a 50% crew is bad.

Well,  it does NOW.

 

That said,  all it does about crew training is to give you free crew training for gold once as part of it. 

It doesn't actually impress upon you how important that crew skill is (though one would have thought that the attached price would make it self evident)






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