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DasGegenmittel #1 Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:51 AM

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For some Days (3 at least) we (myself, Clanmembers and also other People we spocke to [ex-4x, om, d__g]) get the Impression that the Games are rigged.

 

How and why do I feel this way:

For the Last Days we noticed an incredible INCREASE of critical Hits at ALL Tiers and not bound to a specific Nation.

You might say "Bad Luck" but since then I can not play a single Game, be it in RANDOM or in the FORTRESS without seeing blown up turrets or Tanks burning frequently. That is especialy true even if you (like I have) own a 7 Perk Crew where you seldom faced such Situations at all.....

 

I played serval Tanks and got in EACH Game (no kidding) a hit at my Ammunition Storage: 113, WZ11-5A, Obj 277, IS7, Obj 430U, S.Conquerer, t44-100, Tortoise.....

 

Also I do know that some Tanks are more likely to get hit there but that is not the Point. I asked around if others also got the Impression that they are commiting or receiving more critical Hits and the Answer was: Yes....

 

Yesterday In the Fortress (Tier10) there was not a single Round without a blow up Turret... be it in our Team or on the enemy Team... Sometimes there where SERVAL blown up Turrets and we had not a single Round without it.... Also we see much more burning Tanks no matter if you have all Perks + Auto-Fire-Estinguisher or not.. sure you can still burn, do not get me wrong but the FREQUENCE of this to happen seams to have increased dramaticaly.

 

Why do I mention this? Because the frequence of this is way too high. In the Random Battles and in the Fortress Games.

 

I get the Impression that Wargaming changed something on the RNG on the Server-Side to maybe increase the usage of big Consumeables (med+rep) and I reach out to ask you if you got the same Impression and I also reach out to Wargaming to explain the Situation because it is not realy funny at all if the Games seam to be rigged from the start....

 

Kind regards,

Rembrandt


Edited by rembrandt2323, 10 January 2019 - 10:52 AM.


gitgud_cannot #2 Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:56 AM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

 EACH Game (no kidding) a hit at my Ammunition Storage: 113, WZ11-5A, Obj 277, IS7, Obj 430U, S.Conquerer, t44-100, Tortoise

i call BS  on your story. why? because all your tanks mentioned in the list are prone to get  ammorack damaged, thats nothing new.



Wintermute_1 #3 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:01 AM

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Nope, haven't noticed a thing.

 

Spoiler

 



TeessideTintin #4 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:03 AM

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I agree with you OP the game was definitely rigged, however, you have it the wrong way round. It was in fact rigged to help you up until 3 days ago but now that help has been removed and now you suffer the same as everyone else. Welcome to the real world.

 

Finding my statement above hard to accept? Why would they have helped you in the past? Then get over yourself you drama queen it was never rigged, the game doesnt need to target you and make it harder for you it can rely on you doing that for yourself.

10:04 Added after 1 minute

There also isn't shift against everyone the tanks you list are prone to issues. Try the FCM50t or Leo if you want it even worse.


Edited by TeessideTintin, 10 January 2019 - 11:06 AM.


DasGegenmittel #5 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:10 AM

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View Postunrealname, on 10 January 2019 - 10:56 AM, said:

i call BS  on your story. why? because all your tanks mentioned in the list are prone to get  ammorack damaged, thats nothing new.

 

Well call it what you like..

 

I see Type5s without Turrets... BC25t.. S.Conquerers, E100, Maus.....

Lets be truthly: If you so clever... what tanks are NOT PRONE to this? I just did not wanted to list ALL Tanks but to mention the Tanks I PLAYED and where I saw it and I did not implied just I GOT HIT.... I wanted to point out that I play multiple Tanks at different Tiers and see it everywhere...



Jigabachi #6 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:10 AM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

How and why do I feel this way:

Feelings are irrelevant. We had so many deluded and dumb people claiming all kinds of things, how this and that is rigged, completely contradicting each other.

What we need is evidence and data. Not feelings. Save some replays, analyse them, come back. 



Cobra6 #7 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:12 AM

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Why do I get a deja-vu with this thread.......

 

I honestly feel we had the same discussion 2 weeks ago.

 

Cobra 6



DasGegenmittel #8 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:14 AM

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View PostTeessideTintin, on 10 January 2019 - 11:03 AM, said:

I agree with you OP the game was definitely rigged, however, you have it the wrong way round. It was in fact rigged to help you up until 3 days ago but now that help has been removed and now you suffer the same as everyone else. Welcome to the real world.

 

Finding my statement above hard to accept? Why would they have helped you in the past? Then get over yourself you drama queen it was never rigged, the game doesnt need to target you and make it harder for you it can rely on you doing that for yourself.

10:04 Added after 1 minute

There also isn't shift against everyone the tanks you list are prone to issues. Try the FCM50t or Leo if you want it even worse.

 

I tried to write it as simple as I could: I failed...

Let me explain it even more simple: I see more critical Hits everywhere and People from bigger Clans I talked to angree to this.

 

It is not about myself (how you implied because you ain't able to read a Sentence correctly) nor about me crying: I just wonder why this happens right now after Christmass where people might got a lot of ingame Cash because of the Christmas Operations and if this could have something to do with it to enforce the usage of big Consumeables so people spend more Ingame Money to those Consumeables...

 

Like the other Guy I qouted and corrected: You missed the Point completly and you fail to understand the concept of making an Example and you take the list as "complete" and you imply that I talk just about myself or being affected.... To clarify this: None of the things you belief to have understood is true. That is not the Point of this Posting.


Edited by rembrandt2323, 10 January 2019 - 11:14 AM.


XOR42 #9 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:14 AM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

...

 

It's perfectly normal for humans to suffer from Apophenia , just recognize it and reject it.



DasGegenmittel #10 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:21 AM

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View PostXOR42, on 10 January 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

 

It's perfectly normal for humans to suffer from Apophenia , just recognize it and reject it.

 

I start to understand why better Players see this Forum as a collection of "Experts" and a waste of Time. So be it...

BR33K1_PAWAH #11 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:21 AM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

For the Last Days we noticed an incredible INCREASE of critical Hits at ALL Tiers and not bound to a specific Nation.

 

 

 

10:23 Added after 1 minute

View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

I start to understand why better Players see this Forum as a collection of "Experts" and a waste of Time. So be it...

 

Better players :trollface:
10:25 Added after 4 minutes

 

As a forum community we should appreciate this thread. Finally, somebody put some effort into his rigged MM thread.

Good stuff, good stuff.



HaZardeur #12 Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:37 AM

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Balc0ra #13 Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:01 PM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

I played serval Tanks and got in EACH Game (no kidding) a hit at my Ammunition Storage: 113, WZ11-5A, Obj 277, IS7, Obj 430U, S.Conquerer, t44-100, Tortoise.....

 

Also I do know that some Tanks are more likely to get hit there but that is not the Point. I asked around if others also got the Impression that they are commiting or receiving more critical Hits and the Answer was: Yes....

 

​Guns have two sets of alpha damages. One for armor, one for modules. Over time even that meta changes. So does the player knowledge on where to hit stuff, neither of those two will remain consistent over time. And some of the tanks you did mention are already what we call a "wandering ammo rack" as their module are easier to hit. And if the guns that hit you change, so will the chance of that getting damaged. As if the guns that hit you before got that 27% roll, had less module damage, it could have a chance to repair up for you to even notice vs if a bigger module damage gun hit's you now more often. Even more so if you have no equitment or crew skills to counter it. 

 

I've not seen more of it tbh. Why? Because I don't play wandering ammo racks atm. I grind my Standard B, the Swedish Leo and train crews in a group of premiums atm "for the K-91". The Matilda IV as pr the norm gets it every other game at least once. Swedish Leo as pr the norm get it every 3rd game or so at least once. Standard B hardly gets it for me. And the T28 F30 gets it more or less once every game on a side hit.. As pr the norm. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 10 January 2019 - 12:03 PM.


wsatnutter #14 Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:04 PM

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11.03 am

date 10/01/19

 

 

I read a load of twaddle



TheR3dBaron #15 Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:10 PM

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Play the FV215b, it should get set on fire more, than it gets ammo rack hits. The ammo rack may get damaged by the fire tho ...

Stig_Stigma #16 Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:16 PM

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View Postrembrandt2323, on 10 January 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

For some Days (3 at least) we (myself, Clanmembers and also other People we spocke to [ex-4x, om, d__g]) get the Impression that the Games are rigged.

 

How and why do I feel this way:

For the Last Days we noticed an incredible INCREASE of critical Hits at ALL Tiers and not bound to a specific Nation.

You might say "Bad Luck" but since then I can not play a single Game, be it in RANDOM or in the FORTRESS without seeing blown up turrets or Tanks burning frequently. That is especialy true even if you (like I have) own a 7 Perk Crew where you seldom faced such Situations at all.....

 

I played serval Tanks and got in EACH Game (no kidding) a hit at my Ammunition Storage: 113, WZ11-5A, Obj 277, IS7, Obj 430U, S.Conquerer, t44-100, Tortoise.....

 

Also I do know that some Tanks are more likely to get hit there but that is not the Point. I asked around if others also got the Impression that they are commiting or receiving more critical Hits and the Answer was: Yes....

 

Yesterday In the Fortress (Tier10) there was not a single Round without a blow up Turret... be it in our Team or on the enemy Team... Sometimes there where SERVAL blown up Turrets and we had not a single Round without it.... Also we see much more burning Tanks no matter if you have all Perks + Auto-Fire-Estinguisher or not.. sure you can still burn, do not get me wrong but the FREQUENCE of this to happen seams to have increased dramaticaly.

 

Why do I mention this? Because the frequence of this is way too high. In the Random Battles and in the Fortress Games.

 

I get the Impression that Wargaming changed something on the RNG on the Server-Side to maybe increase the usage of big Consumeables (med+rep) and I reach out to ask you if you got the same Impression and I also reach out to Wargaming to explain the Situation because it is not realy funny at all if the Games seam to be rigged from the start....

 

Kind regards,

Rembrandt

 

 

Cheats. They are probably using aimbots.  A player from the LYNX Clan (top 15) was caoght on a replay published online and banned just this last few weeks. He was known to cheating since 2014.  Imagine hiw many other uniscums ate using aimbots.



krismorgan #17 Posted 10 January 2019 - 01:26 PM

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My 18th century sailing boat is rigged HELP!

Homer_J #18 Posted 10 January 2019 - 01:49 PM

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I think I know the problem.

 

It's the post Xmas tin foil shortage!

 

OP you are not "seeing" anything, you are imagining it, and so are your "friends" (which may or may not be imaginary themselves).


Edited by Homer_J, 10 January 2019 - 01:50 PM.


Gixxer66 #19 Posted 10 January 2019 - 01:59 PM

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A collection of replays from those battles would be fun to see or did the replays folder take module damage and is no longer accessible?



The_Salty_Kipper #20 Posted 10 January 2019 - 01:59 PM

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haha, 

 

Dude, you should run a Centurion 7/1 that EVEN with Safe Stowage sometimes gets Ammo Racked 2 or 3 times per game..  Its all about negating the probability and keeping yourself immune to such occurrences as much as possible. 

 

However, I do sympathize with your way of thinking or feelings..

 

You get good days, you get bad days.. we ALL do..  






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