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seXikanac #1 Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:21 PM

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I wander why do I have feeling that fantasy tanks in WoT are far more better than historical ones? Do you mind amount of fantasy tanks we have in the game?

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By fantasy you mean those which only made it to prototype, only existed as blueprints, or even no more than ideas, or those which WG made up completely like E50-M or T28 prot?

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View PostseXikanac, on 11 January 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

I wander why do I have feeling that fantasy tanks in WoT are far more better than historical ones? Do you mind amount of fantasy tanks we have in the game?

 

Depends on what you mean by fantasy? As in WG hybrids like the Mutz. Or the Polish HT's that was a mix of different blueprints. The Jap HT's where they went on written details on the hull vs a blueprint. Or blueprint only and up?. As even some historical tanks that actually did see action, are better then the real deal. As even on those, historical accuracy had to go away for balance. 

Edited by Balc0ra, 11 January 2019 - 06:38 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 January 2019 - 06:37 PM, said:

 

historical accuracy had to go away for balance. 

balance in wot lol



Balc0ra #6 Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:11 PM

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View PostCrashzi, on 11 January 2019 - 06:47 PM, said:

balance in wot lol

 

It's gotta work. You lot still play it. 

Pattonizer #7 Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:24 PM

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Actually, Wot had far better atmoshpere at the beginning with historical-semihistorical tanks (only to fill the gaps). It got out of the hand with the tier10 mediums and new nations and the armada of objects and premium 'what the ****'s.

And I blame the playerbase. You were all dummies to go for these nonsense lines and units. You've been baited and it has worked.

 

And the thing with the polish line is just ridiculous. I would be offended if I'd be polish. But hey, I guess the twelve years old polish wot players do not agree with me.


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try to play TIger 1 vs Type 4 heavy or O-ho . Just a lot of fun ....

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is fantasy sex better than historical sex ??

 

There is your answer



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View PostHomer_J, on 11 January 2019 - 06:35 PM, said:

By fantasy you mean those which only made it to prototype, only existed as blueprints, or even no more than ideas, or those which WG made up completely like E50-M or T28 prot?

Imo I'd only call the latter group fantasy tanks.

Which, funnily enough, includes a large part of the China tree. :trollface:



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View PostPattonizer, on 11 January 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

Actually, Wot had fat better atmoshpere at the beginning with historical-semihistorical tanks (only to fill te gaps). It got out of the hand with the tier10 mediums and new nations and the armada of objects and premium 'what the ****'s.

And I blame the playerbase. You were all dummies to go for these nonsense lines and units. You've benne baited and it has worked.

 

And the thing with the polish line is just ridiculous. I would be offended if I'd be polish. But hey, I guess the twelve years old polish wot players do not agree with me.

 

This 100%, back in the early days it was German vs Russian and then USA was added around the time of release, it was a much better game back then, not only because most tanks were fairly balanced even with the +4 mm you could use HE effectively against tanks 4 tiers higher than you, and also because the maps were more open and weren't full of convenient hills and shot-blockers like they are now after years of maps being sanitised over and over.

 

The tanks themselves all had more character too, now you just have to grind the latest Object CYKABLYAD 5523424230 or whatever latest fantasy the devs came up with that was pulled from the [edited]of some Ivan's wildest dreams in 1945 to win all day long. Tanks that ACTUALLY FOUGHT like the Panther, Tiger, Comet, Pershing, M3 Lee etc. largely suck and are just fodder for premium TDs like the scorpion G, and tanks that were mediocre in reality like the T34 and Cromwell are really good in the game for whatever reason.



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All tanks are fantasy tanks in wot stats wise

Most of the pentrating shots you make in game if those happen in RL the whole crew is dead or badly injured and it well take more than a med kit to fix you up :D



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View PostRobbie_T, on 13 January 2019 - 03:16 AM, said:

All tanks are fantasy tanks in wot stats wise

Most of the pentrating shots you make in game if those happen in RL the whole crew is dead or badly injured and it well take more than a med kit to fix you up :D

 

Not to mention instant track repairs, and crews developing ESP :)

the_Haba #14 Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:33 AM

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There is not a drop of realism in WoT. Which is probably a good thing, because realistic tanks wouldn't be much "fun".

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View Postqpranger, on 11 January 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

I want the Nameless !!!!

 

Hell yeah!

 



Tom_Deekanarry #16 Posted 13 January 2019 - 01:21 PM

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All service tanks should be superior to prototypes and design studies as they were accepted for service and developed,  prototypes are the basic design that was never debugged and improved, so they should be garbage!

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View PostseXikanac, on 11 January 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

I wander why do I have feeling that fantasy tanks in WoT are far more better than historical ones? Do you mind amount of fantasy tanks we have in the game?

Think for a second about how boring this game would be if there was only few tanks a.k.a 'real tanks'. Everyone would immediatly get bored. Blue print tanks are good job by WG and idc if they're better, why do you think they were only on blueprints? Because they were next gen tanks.



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View PostObjec7, on 13 January 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

Think for a second about how boring this game would be if there was only few tanks a.k.a 'real tanks'. Everyone would immediatly get bored. Blue print tanks are good job by WG and idc if they're better, why do you think they were only on blueprints? Because they were next gen tanks.

 

 

Without any mean to offend, this attitude what has exactly created a monster from this game. About the blueprints are "next gen tanks" thing, let me quote a classic: NUTS!

 


View Postthe_Haba, on 13 January 2019 - 05:33 AM, said:

There is not a drop of realism in WoT. Which is probably a good thing, because realistic tanks wouldn't be much "fun".

 

Actually I'm playing War Thunder for a couple of months now. That game has serious engine and gameplay issues waiting to be fixed, but it has realistic ground battle modes. It's a lot of fun. I have WOT installed on my computer but I just don't want to play with it anymore. I just don't feel like it since War Thunder. That game still has that charm. Not an ultimate, simulator-level realism, but it's pretty close. There is no spotting system there, you see what you can actually see. You need to aim very carefully but after that every gun is quite precise. It's you who are playing and not the RNG. It's quite a hardcore game, so it offers more challange for me now. Tanks oneshot each other most of the time so if you are a good player and know the mechanisms it's decided on the who spots and shots first basis. Sounds scary, but after some time it's super exciting. You need to hunt the enemy. Or be hunted if you don't pay attention. 

Also there are no gold shells and P2W aspects are truly minimal. 

 

I don't know how could WOT lure me back to play with it. WOT is better made and more complete in its own category, the engine is more professional. I think it's a fair thing to emphasize. But overall it's not the better game anymore. I think the game itself basically is quite neat. But it had became too fantasy. I'm bored and I really could vomit because of the maps. Malinovka is what Hell must look like and not a map I'd play intentionally.

 

I did not mind these when we only had historical tanks, but now.....it's not even a tank game to be honest so that is taken away as well. Elephants could replace the skins, shooting coconuts out from their trunks. 

 

If not for 1.0, this game would be ultimately dead to me. Instead it's a big question mark.


Edited by Pattonizer, 22 January 2019 - 03:14 PM.


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View PostRenesco, on 11 January 2019 - 07:47 PM, said:

 

This 100%, back in the early days it was German vs Russian and then USA was added around the time of release, it was a much better game back then, not only because most tanks were fairly balanced even with the +4 mm you could use HE effectively against tanks 4 tiers higher than you, and also because the maps were more open and weren't full of convenient hills and shot-blockers like they are now after years of maps being sanitised over and over.

 

The tanks themselves all had more character too, now you just have to grind the latest Object CYKABLYAD 5523424230 or whatever latest fantasy the devs came up with that was pulled from the [edited]of some Ivan's wildest dreams in 1945 to win all day long. Tanks that ACTUALLY FOUGHT like the Panther, Tiger, Comet, Pershing, M3 Lee etc. largely suck and are just fodder for premium TDs like the scorpion G, and tanks that were mediocre in reality like the T34 and Cromwell are really good in the game for whatever reason.

 

Too bad never saw that phase myself, as I jumped in the lemming train in 2014.

 

But damn it would be nice if WG would dedicate 1 extra server for old skool-wot and release some old version to play, like 9.15 or lower, would be there instantly.



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View PostTom_Deekanarry, on 13 January 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

All service tanks should be superior to prototypes and design studies as they were accepted for service and developed,  prototypes are the basic design that was never debugged and improved, so they should be garbage!

 

Which are not? And prototypes are not automatically garbage. They are custom built by definition rather than assembly line, so depending on the level of assembly line and available resources to spread over entire production, they might not be that bad.

 

Unless you mean your statement literally, in which case you are saying that a Pz I armed with machine guns should be superior even to prototypes of modern tanks. 






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