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So I heard you are going to rework the Leopard 1... let's talk gun

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SABAOTH #1 Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:10 AM

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So you are going to buff the worst tier X medium of WoT history.

 

 

Not going into stats buff because no soviet so who cares, but while you're at it, what about to put this sexy gun into the model?

 

It would look more like the Leo that you saw in service

 

Side skirts would be nice too :child:

 


Edited by SABAOTH, 12 January 2019 - 02:23 AM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #2 Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:01 AM

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SABAOTH #3 Posted 12 January 2019 - 08:49 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 12 January 2019 - 03:01 AM, said:

 

I find this offensive because I identify as a purple gay helicopter. Is also racist because green helicopters are privileged, and privilege is one of my trigger warnings. I am going to whine on some random place in the Internet now :angry:

 

 

PLus this gif is going to attack us! :ohmy:



SABAOTH #4 Posted 12 January 2019 - 08:48 PM

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Is it confirmed that they will buff the HP by 150 but reduce mobility and increase dispersion on the move for balance?

NekoPuffer_PPP #5 Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:02 AM

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What in God's name is "Gender Fluid"??

QPoszto #6 Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:53 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 12 January 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

Is it confirmed that they will buff the HP by 150 but reduce mobility and increase dispersion on the move for balance?

And wtf i can do with +150 hp, until the fv s shot you just for 1800. And actually the mobility is the strong point at this tank now, and the gun. I might be wrong but i think after rebalance the whole german tree will be worse, i mean the leo is a good tank, no armor, ok we are used to it. E100 is a trash so the cant make it worse luckily. But overall i like the leo, with the mobility even if it have no armor. But i suppose after rebalance the armor stays the same but worse mobility. But we will see.



SABAOTH #7 Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:59 AM

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View PostQPoszto, on 13 January 2019 - 12:53 AM, said:

And wtf i can do with +150 hp, until the fv s shot you just for 1800. And actually the mobility is the strong point at this tank now, and the gun. I might be wrong but i think after rebalance the whole german tree will be worse, i mean the leo is a good tank, no armor, ok we are used to it. E100 is a trash so the cant make it worse luckily. But overall i like the leo, with the mobility even if it have no armor. But i suppose after rebalance the armor stays the same but worse mobility. But we will see.

 

Also worse gun dispersion, it's for balance

HassenderZerhacker #8 Posted 13 January 2019 - 01:09 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 12 January 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

Is it confirmed that they will buff the HP by 150 but reduce mobility and increase dispersion on the move for balance?

 

WHAT

if they reduce mobility and accuracy, I'm going to sell it.

for 150 extra HP ???

I hope this is a joke?


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 13 January 2019 - 01:10 AM.


QPoszto #9 Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:03 AM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 13 January 2019 - 01:09 AM, said:

 

WHAT

if they reduce mobility and accuracy, I'm going to sell it.

for 150 extra HP ???

I hope this is a joke?

It have to be officially the worse mt bud, they work on it. I just dont kbow why they dont remove the whole nation from the game if they still feel the pain after ww2, and than make sure every player must play thr *edited* soviet tanks. Anyway keep calm thr new is4 wilp br good.


Edited by CrimsonCat, 08 March 2019 - 10:10 AM.
Inappropriate remarks.


Dava_117 #10 Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:28 AM

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View PostQPoszto, on 13 January 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

It have to be officially the worse mt bud, they work on it. I just dont kbow why they dont remove the whole nation from the game if they still feel the pain after ww2, and than make sure every player must play thr *edited* soviet tanks. Anyway keep calm thr new is4 wilp br good.

 

The usual exageration. Germat tech tree has quite a good number of perfectly fine (Tiger1, E75, tier6 Panther and many other) and even OP tanks (like the 3 top tier of Maus line). 

 

Also WG still haven't said anything about what will them do to Leo1. The OP was sarcastic when talking about HP buff and mobility nerfs.



chiggy #11 Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:33 AM

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Since when has anything British designed in this game been good? That Leo 1 gun will be rubbish and the IS7 gun will get a free laser range finder in the next patch.

Edited by chiggy, 13 January 2019 - 10:34 AM.


Hamsterkicker #12 Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:54 AM

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Hmm. Nerf gun dispersion on the move? FFS that is the main thing that needs to get buffed... Not nerfed.. so then without any armor I have to stand still even longer... yeah.. brilliant.

Tom_Deekanarry #13 Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:01 AM

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leopard 1 was designed before the adoption of computerised fire control systems, first shot hits were rare, you put two or three rapid shots onto the target adjusting with each shot then bugged out rapidly before the enemy could range you, it's this good optics with rapid target acquisition, mobility and rapid, accurate fire that the whole concept was based on, that's why it was lightly armoured, move fast don't get hit.


 

If Leo 1 is to work in this game it needs to be accurate and mobile with little protection!

 

 



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Improved gun soft stats are what it needs, less dispersion on turret rotation etc.

 

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View PostDava_117, on 13 January 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

The usual exageration. Germat tech tree has quite a good number of perfectly fine (Tiger1, E75, tier6 Panther and many other) and even OP tanks (like the 3 top tier of Maus line). 

 

Also WG still haven't said anything about what will them do to Leo1. The OP was sarcastic when talking about HP buff and mobility nerfs.

 

Tier IX maus OP, take that Op tier IX Maus and kill me in ST 1, I dare you Dava or stop talking BS. 

Edited by ares354, 13 January 2019 - 11:30 AM.


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View Postares354, on 13 January 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

Tier IX maus OP, take that Op tier IX Maus and kill me in ST 1, I dare you Dava or stop talking BS. 

 

Statistically was OP. I agree is far less OP than VK100 and Maus, as many tier 9 can pen 240mm turret front with AP. And being tier 9 a well balanced tier, I can't really complain about it.

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View PostDava_117, on 13 January 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

 

Statistically was OP. I agree is far less OP than VK100 and Maus, as many tier 9 can pen 240mm turret front with AP. And being tier 9 a well balanced tier, I can't really complain about it.

 

 He is slow, is he not ? 20 ? he have "shoot me there cupola", before he even aim gun at you. Lower plate is not even close to Maus, or his side armor. How this tank is OP? Really people, how >? 

I almost never see them. Type 4 is by far worst tank to meet and fight on, or 705 is city maps. 

I am sorry, he is OP, when he meet tier 7, but which tier 9 HT cant rekt tier 7 >>? Even AMX 120, big crap will hurst them badly. 

Edited by ares354, 13 January 2019 - 11:58 AM.


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View Postares354, on 13 January 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:

 

 He is slow, is he not ? 20 ? he have "shoot me there cupola", before he even aim gun at you. Lower plate is not even close to Maus, or his side armor. How this tank is OP? Really people, how >? 

I almost never see them. Type 4 is by far worst tank to meet and fight on, or 705 is city maps. 

I am sorry, he is OP, when he meet tier 7, but which tier 9 HT cant rekt tier 7 >>? Even AMX 120, big crap will hurst them badly. 

 

To be fair, the cupola is a bait almost like the one on VK100 being 240mm thick on the central part. You better off aiming at turret front!

Also, the worst tank you may meet on tier 9 are Tortoise and T95, followed by the Type4 with derp.



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View PostDava_117, on 13 January 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

 

To be fair, the cupola is a bait almost like the one on VK100 being 240mm thick on the central part. You better off aiming at turret front!

Also, the worst tank you may meet on tier 9 are Tortoise and T95, followed by the Type4 with derp.

 

Vs T95 and Tortie i can sidescrape, use armor that will bounce their guns, will i bounce HE?, hardly. 

Edited by ares354, 13 January 2019 - 04:27 PM.


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View Postares354, on 13 January 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

Vs T95 and Tortie i can sidescrape, use armor that will bounce their guns, will i bounce HE?, hardly. 

 

True that, but T95 and Tortie have better armour and better alpha/DPM compared to a premium HE spammin Type4. T95 also can't be tracked and damaged from the front, unlike Tortoise and Type4. IMO T95 is the most OP tier 9 and may beth it's also the most OP tank by WR curves.





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