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gunslingerXXX #41 Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:46 PM

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View PostTruntea, on 12 January 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

Hmm why no Obj 907? I am sure that would be a winner as not everyone can be bothered with clans.

Pay attention WG, this ^ is a good idea



ZeroCommaZero #42 Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:10 PM

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View PostDeividas_onaitis, on 12 January 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

WOT are u stupid or something u get billion of dollors and u cant even donate teir6 for free rlyy and like u donate teir 2 and 3 for free rly mate at list must it be like teir 5 or 6 for free not teir 3 teir 3 are useless more for teir 10 players...... so WOT you will die sometime still because every game have max 2years of doing crapwhit people like that kv-2 whit skin and its same price as new teir 8 like WOT stop it now or ur game will die very fast.

 

The only one who is stupid here is you.

Checking... 44% WR... yup, stupid indeed.



McLovers #43 Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:22 PM

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View PostFalathi, on 12 January 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

 

All correct, except one tiny detail: we are not even going to see this money as it goes directly to charity. 


If you offer an item and you are not to receive anything in return then it`s hard to call it sale. 

 

Also - it is the one and only chance to obtain this tank exactly because it`s charity and not a proper sale. The same way last year one of the items offered was Su-76i. 

 

Isn't this just the marketing machine at work?  Everyone knows how business works, give something away that has great value to get something worth even more back?  You can try spinning it however you like but it's not a great start to the year is it, it explicitly says in that video that the tank will never be available through any means. 

 

My question would be why is the supported charity only polish based and not a more international charity that other countries can get behind.  If you want people to donate to a charity offer something for everyone who donates in a tiered format, you are only going to get sour grapes the way that you have done it.  This is merely aimed at those with deep pockets to get whatever they wish in the game as per usual.  Wargaming's greed has no end.



Ch1valry #44 Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:00 PM

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Kodus for having a real life charity, but I do have to ask: Why Poland? There are tons countries that would need this more. According to Wikipedia:

 

"In all, as of 2017 the Polish economy has been growing steadily for the past 26 years, a record high in the EU. Such growth has been exponential, with GDP per capita at purchasing power parity growing on average by 6% p.a. over the last 20 years, the most impressive performance in Central Europe resulting in the country doubling its GDP since 1990."

 

Not saying Poland wouldn't have problems with their health care system. However, wouldn't such an economic growth suggest that Polish authorities would likely be able to take care of these problems themselves?

 

Would much rather have a charity for people in third world countries, but I guess that wouldn't benefit WG enough.



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View PostCh1valry, on 12 January 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

Kodus for having a real life charity, but I do have to ask: Why Poland? There are tons countries that would need this more. According to Wikipedia:

 

"In all, as of 2017 the Polish economy has been growing steadily for the past 26 years, a record high in the EU. Such growth has been exponential, with GDP per capita at purchasing power parity growing on average by 6% p.a. over the last 20 years, the most impressive performance in Central Europe resulting in the country doubling its GDP since 1990."

 

Not saying Poland wouldn't have problems with their health care system. However, wouldn't such an economic growth suggest that Polish authorities would likely be able to take care of these problems themselves?

 

Would much rather have a charity for people in third world countries, but I guess that wouldn't benefit WG enough.

 

Political discussions are not allowed so I can`t give you a full, detailed picture here even though the questions you ask are valid. Therefore, let me explain the stuff as much as I can. 

 This charity has been running for the last many years ( this year`s finale is 27th ) and it started when the situation in hospitals in Poland was simply dramatic. Since then, the situation improved but one of the things about health care systems is that there`s almost always something to fix, something to improve and some serious issues to address. For every year, this charity consults the needs with doctors and aims at covering a neglected area of the health care by buying specialist hardware - this is one of the main reasons we support it. It`s not only a big thing, but it`s also pretty clear. 

 

As for the Third World countries - I totally agree with you and I see no reason why we shouldn`t support them as well. However, for this we need to know about particular charity, make sure it`s a good cause and then we can support it. If you know a good example of something that we should look into - please, feel free to share the idea with us. We`ve been supporting charities in the past, just to name the WarChild as an example and we could support more. 

 



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Any kind of charity is welcomed by me. GJ.

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View PostFalathi, on 12 January 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:

 

It is not on sale. We are offering ONE tank, because it`s an exceptional charity. That`s all. 

 

aha right you see $$$$$ :sceptic:

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View PostFalathi, on 12 January 2019 - 01:16 PM, said:

 

It is not on sale. We are offering ONE tank, because it`s an exceptional charity. That`s all. 

 

WG is good at making tanks out of nowhere and using their imagination to complete unhistorical tanks. They could have introduced a new tank and there would be only and only 1 of it in entire WoT. You'd still be raising money for charity and keeping your word. But I mean c'mon this is WG what can I expect. They sold mutant not once but more than that and not only sold Defender multiple times they also put it in loot boxes. So selling this tank in the future is not such a stretch to imagine. Just thinking about the power creep that we shows what sort of power creep we can expect from WG to avoid losing profit.

Weak_man #49 Posted 12 January 2019 - 06:53 PM

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For some wot players is more important their egoism to have some tanks only them than the fact to help people in real world. 

Charity help the world. Egoism of the people that want others to not have some tanks make world worse. 

Good job wg for charity no matter what tank you give. As long is for charity from my side can be even Obj. 907.


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How thick are you people actually? This money goes to sick children. Not to WG. And it is only one tank. I was against selling these tanks, and I refuse to buy them even if they are/will be on sale even for bonds, but in this case I support the decision.

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View PostCobra6, on 12 January 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

While I do applaud charity work I have to point out that the Pz.Kpfw. V/IV is an exclusive pre-order vehicle that was promised to never be on sale again (even indirectly like this).

 

And while I can somewhat forgive it being in a charity auction (because charity) this is putting up a precedent for WG to start selling it again with which I strongly disagree, like with the Mutan-6 as well. The problem is with "opening the door" to start selling it again.

 

It was promised, to the people that backed WG (and WoT) when it most needed it, in the early days that these tanks would never be sold again. Stop selling out the people that made WoT what it is today for short term financial gains. I am aware you will most likely put it in the bonds shop as a rare vehicle because you just can't help yourself but I implore you to refrain from such treachery.

There are legion of tanks you can put in this auction that are not pre-order exclusive vehicles.

 

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Yeah, what a disgrace. Getting real money for good causes in exchange for some pixels. Really terrible.



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You have many other tanks to sell, because it is sell...

Make lets say a special edition of ANY in game tanks and make it a charity reward, a tank with special camo or a decal that show the way it earned.

Now offering a tier 5 or pudel or 50tp its not worth even for charity , everybody just can give money but if you wont to raise the hype offer something unique.

Or even forget tanks and put on sell something else , something real and give the tank as reward.

 

 



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I completely agree that this tank should never be sold again (in any quantity). It is completely disrespectful to your most core and loyal playerbase. If you sell one, even if it's an auction, people see you as breaking your promise, when you will sell a next one? People will start to think that you will, and honestly who can blame them. Seeing this, I for one am now certain you don't give a toss about the loyal players who helped your game get off the ground, and I would not be at all surprised to see you sell this tank again. It loses it's exclusivity when you do that, and it severely damages any little amount of confidence the playerbase still has left in your company.

 

Secondly, if you think an auction is the right way to go about raising money for charity, you really don't care about said charity. Instead of having an auction, I challenge you, donate half of your earnings from the premium shop to the charity instead for that day. A lot of people are not going to spend money on a CHANCE to get a single tank. It's a sad and unfortunate truth, that most people probably have never heard of this charity, and probably don't care, so they don't think of it as donating to charity before thinking of what THEY get out of it. But you know, if everyone that 'donated' and got something for it (in reality this would be you offering an item that all the proceeds go towards the charity, where everyone gets the tank you sell, lets say the 50tp), then you would raise a lot more for the charity. But no, that would be WG giving too much away.

 

While I applaud the attempt to help a charity even if it's likely more for your company's image, how about make a real effort to help them? This feels really lackluster for a charity event, while at the same time, opening a damaging new precedent with regards to exclusive vehicles.



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YET AGAIN DESPITE WG PROMMISES LAST TIME NON POLISH SPEAKERS ARE EXCLUDED
 

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It seems there will always be enough devils advocates to defend the indefensible.

 

As I pointed out in my OP, my issue is not with charity, it's with WG putting one of 3 *exclusive* pre-order tanks in a charity action instead of one of the 100(?) other premium tanks this game has.

 

You might agree or disagree with the fact that there are load of accounts that have an A-32 / Pz5/4 / Mutant-6 in their garage and no longer playing, but that is their prerogative. They supported WG when they most needed it and gave WoT it's financial boost to ensure it would even get off the ground properly, if it wasn't for them you'd not even be playing this game right now, keep that in mind.

These vehicles were exclusive to these players and it's 3 vehicles on what must now be 600 tanks in this game? Let these players have their exclusive tanks in peace.

 

I hope it will remain just this isolated incident like Homer pointed out.

 

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It's not a sale?

 

So it'd be OK for players to Auction their accounts for charity too? Seems as though they would not be selling them! :trollface:



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View PostCobra6, on 13 January 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

It seems there will always be enough devils advocates to defend the indefensible.

 

As I pointed out in my OP, my issue is not with charity, it's with WG putting one of 3 *exclusive* pre-order tanks in a charity action instead of one of the 100(?) other premium tanks this game has.

 

You might agree or disagree with the fact that there are load of accounts that have an A-32 / Pz5/4 / Mutant-6 in their garage and no longer playing, but that is their prerogative. They supported WG when they most needed it and gave WoT it's financial boost to ensure it would even get off the ground properly, if it wasn't for them you'd not even be playing this game right now, keep that in mind.

These vehicles were exclusive to these players and it's 3 vehicles on what must now be 600 tanks in this game? Let these players have their exclusive tanks in peace.

 

I hope it will remain just this isolated incident like Homer pointed out.

 

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Correct Cobra6

 

However these tanks are dead. Since I play this game I have not seen them in action.

 

Whats the point of making them exclusive if they are not used ?

 

I agree if someone play Pz V/IV well and win lots of games like Type 59 but its not so.

 

Put them on sale for gold please so everyone can play then whenever they like

 

Thank you

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View PostFalathi, on 12 January 2019 - 10:46 AM, said:

 

It is not on sale. We are offering ONE tank, because it`s an exceptional charity. That`s all. 

 

Now is the time to introduce 2nd polish medium I recommend .... or convert Rudy :)

 

PS I have no patience to see the Bonds Shop....


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View PostCobra6, on 13 January 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

You might agree or disagree with the fact that there are load of accounts that have an A-32 / Pz5/4 / Mutant-6 in their garage and no longer playing, but that is their prerogative. They supported WG when they most needed it and gave WoT it's financial boost to ensure it would even get off the ground properly, if it wasn't for them you'd not even be playing this game right now, keep that in mind.

I have a PzV/IV and I play it.  In fact it's my 3rd most played tank.  Granted a lot of those battles were in the early days when it was my main moneymaker but it still comes out fairly regularly.

 

I have no problems with them using it for this auction.

 

And I would have no objection to them selling it again.



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View Postspark82, on 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

How thick are you people actually? This money goes to sick children. Not to WG. And it is only one tank. I was against selling these tanks, and I refuse to buy them even if they are/will be on sale even for bonds, but in this case I support the decision.

 

How thick are you actually?

 

If you care about sick children or something else, go donate directly. Do you need to get something in return?

What kind of obstacle do you have preventing you to help anyone you want?

 

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View PostHomer_J, on 13 January 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

And I would have no objection to them selling it again.

 

I know, but at the same time it is also very feasible you are a minority in that. But that is besides the point, these tanks were advertised and sold under the guise of only being available during pre-order stages and never again afterwards. That is part of the sales contract.

It doesn't matter if you personally now feel it's fine for them to sell it again in any way, that is besides the point.

 

That being said, as I pointed out in my OP I can somewhat excuse it for a charity event and (as promised) being a one time only occurrence. Doesn't mean it's not a breach of contract though, they are just banking on no one actually legally pursuing this or any future sales like with the Mutant-6

 

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