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Rilleta #1 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:24 AM

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I'd like to know what the higher ups, skill wise, think about the Tier X wheeled LT.

 

- CW Worthy?

- Competitive?

- Suitable alternative?

- Situational?

- Useless?

 

Looking at you, Cobra6.

 

*hype intensifies*



kaneAAA #2 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:31 AM

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I don't qualify but im thinking that people who are rubbish at light tanks are going to be rubbish at the Panhard. The question is which has the higher skill cap? Lights or wheelies?

qpranger #3 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:34 AM

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Spectacular yolo wagon.

kaneAAA #4 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:36 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 14 January 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

Spectacular yolo wagon.

 

thanks for that hamster man.

SuedKAT #5 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:37 AM

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A few unicums have shared their thoughts about the entire line in this thread: http://forum.worldof...he-test-server/

barison1 #6 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:30 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 15 January 2019 - 12:24 AM, said:

I'd like to know what the higher ups, skill wise, think about the Tier X wheeled LT.

 

- CW Worthy?                      pretty unlikely, terribad vr wont do much good. t100 would remain picked LT i would say

- Competitive?                    only late game it is competative, rest of the game its fairly mediocre

- Suitable alternative?       get t100 and 13105, more reliable and not so awkward to drive unlike ebr105

- Situational?                       only good on open maps and 1v1 situations, the horrid pen and vr limits it alot

- Useless?                           not useless but highly situational, in 1v1 (in open) you should be able to circle enemies to death pretty easely, but horrid dpm so it will take a while

 

Looking at you, Cobra6.        

 

*hype intensifies*

 



ValkyrionX #7 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:45 AM

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very fun , simply awesome and soooooooooooooo fuc****ing faaaast 

 


Edited by ValkyrionX, 15 January 2019 - 01:46 AM.


Balc0ra #8 Posted 15 January 2019 - 02:00 AM

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It's a fun tank that will put a smile on your face, useless or not. That's all you need to know. 

 

But it's not easy to say after playing vs mostly just wheeled lights all day. But like the tier 8 premium, it's situational more so then useless. And with the HE it's a great counter early on vs enemy lights "if you can see them". And as a support bully late game. But that part was not easy when there were a few other wheeled lights out and about sending HE your way. 

 

But... IMO it was an effective active scout if you maxed out the crew skills and had only bond equipment on it. I could not say the same with normal equipment and 1 or 2 crew skills. As having 25% camo on the move vs 46 made a huge difference. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 15 January 2019 - 02:04 AM.


Cobra6 #9 Posted 15 January 2019 - 08:35 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 14 January 2019 - 11:24 PM, said:

I'd like to know what the higher ups, skill wise, think about the Tier X wheeled LT.

 

- CW Worthy?

- Competitive?

- Suitable alternative?

- Situational?

- Useless?

 

Looking at you, Cobra6.

 

*hype intensifies*

 

Well, I'll be frank, I don't have time to play on the test-server so I can't really give an opinion on it.

 

*BUT* if the top tiers are (tier for tier) balanced the same as the EBR was then they will be rather underwhelming.

 

Honestly I think that this will become a new light tank "debacle" where the tier 6/7 will be competitive and rather balanced but the tier 8/9/10 will get progressively more underpowered/uncompetitive to protect dear old Steve in his IS-7. Like we have with T10 light tanks being completely gimped mediums and having nothing special apart from a bit more mobility.

 

Cobra 6



Ceeb #10 Posted 15 January 2019 - 08:41 AM

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I like Steve in his IS7...

Simeon85 #11 Posted 15 January 2019 - 09:10 AM

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Not good, if released as it is then I'd expect it is going to have a global win rate around 45% mark I reckon, even the truly bad Rhm. Panzer will fancy its chances I reckon matched up against this thing.

 

People will of course be getting good games on the test server because its the test server, half the games are full of EBR 105s, then of course everyone's ping is all over the place so the lag helps it avoid shots it won't so much on live, plus most of the other vehicles you know are being driven by people with no tanks higher than like 6 or 7 on their live accounts so have no clue what they are doing.

 

But when it hits live, with out current meta, I seriously doubt it will be very effective unless the team opens up some big chances for it or the enemy team is very very bad (in which case pretty much any vehicles can take advantage). Its gun power is just very weak, it effectively has a similar gun to the M4 Rev, so basically think about how an M4 Rev would do in an all tier 10 game, sure the speed is insane but that ability is heavily constrained by the maps, I mean it doesn't really matter if you go 50kph or 105kph if all you are doing is moving between restricted corridors where you stare down at over armoured heavies and massive alpha TDs. 

 

I'd say very situational, not useless, not competitive, unlikely to have any CW value (a T-100 will heavily out spot it and active spotting is not common in CWs) and the T-100 lt is still a better alternative as that is used in CW if that is what you are looking towards.



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SO what you are telling me is not to spend time grinding this line yet and focus on my other grinds, until WG buff the tanks in 6-12 months time? Cool, I can live with that. :great:

Eviscerador #13 Posted 15 January 2019 - 09:24 AM

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It is a Pz1C at tier 10. Raw fun and can give you great games, but all you need is being hit once by anyone that knows how to aim and you are dead.

 

Also in city maps not having tracks and being able to turn on the spot is a bit of a pain.

 

But as I said, it is raw fun!



NOR_Leopard_2A7 #14 Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:41 AM

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What equipment do you guys use? I can only get it to go 75 km/h.

FluffyRedFox #15 Posted 15 January 2019 - 11:40 AM

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View PostNOR_Leopard_2A7, on 15 January 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

What equipment do you guys use? I can only get it to go 75 km/h.

Change modes by pressing X, the cruising mode has a max speed of 75km/h while the rapid mode can go 105km/h. Also press space+w when stationary to charge up a boost.

As for equipment, I run Vents / Rammer / Optics. V.stab is pretty useless on the ACs since their soft stats are extremely good, and the extra VR boost from vents is more worth it.


Edited by FluffyRedFox, 15 January 2019 - 12:50 PM.


Black_Coyote #16 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

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The games will be something like this: when start all will camp and focus  to hunt that wv creatures ... After this will start the game.

Jack_Sparroxx #17 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:05 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 15 January 2019 - 12:45 AM, said:

very fun , simply awesome and soooooooooooooo fuc****ing faaaast 

 

 

3100 is a ok-ish round for a regular tier 10 light depending on the map, but not spectacular.  Frankly speaking, I predict this tonk will get even worse stats then the Rhm pancywagon.  Skill cap to do well in this will be insanely high, much more then regular tier 10 lights, and by god, 99% of the players SUX in lights. 

 

I'm actually worried that what ever team gets mr.yolo turd in his panhard will suicide with in 30 seconds, and the enemy team with a real light tank that dont suicide can have a negative impact for game play on the open maps where the team with "ze gut scout" have a significant higher chance of wining. 


Edited by Jack_Sparroxx, 15 January 2019 - 02:52 PM.


Simeon85 #18 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:11 PM

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When these things come out on the live, if they haven't buffed them then just play good light tanks, like T71, Type 64, T-100 lt, ELC Even, Lt-43, 13-90 etc. As long as you don't yolo into an aggressive spot, you are probably going to have an easy time winning the game, as I predict 90% of these things will die in the first 1-2 minutes, and then any left will be wounded and you can just keep them at arms length, out spot them and dominate the vision for your team. 

TankkiPoju #19 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:12 PM

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What's the limit for being unicum? 2400 WN8? I am about 3 below that.

 

Let me play some tier 5s and get back to you.

 

EDIT: Ok but srsly... 190mm pen and sub 2k DPM. It's trash but at least it's fast moving trash.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 15 January 2019 - 01:14 PM.


ValkyrionX #20 Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:36 PM

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For the random battles an EBR-105 translates into exciting and entertaining matches , the same feeling I felt when playing the EBR-75 on rent on the live server.

The high-explosive shots of this vehicle are really exceptional and allow you to do an average damage close to 500 per stroke on the armorless vehicles, this allows it to defend himself from the classic light tanks and from opponents with an EBR-105 , even better to attack mediums with paper armor like a TVP , BC25t , Leopard , M60 etc... or shoting on the back of a russian medium or take out an arty with one shot.

 

 

As for the CWs , Skirmishes , Team-Battles , WG-Tournaments , Front-line Mode and also Grand-Battles I think this new type of vehicles will affect and change the style of play in one way or another that of all other vehicle categories , also tactics and the average duration of the games on many maps will undergo significant changes.

This could be both negative and positive for the game, we have to wait at least a couple of months after the insertion of these new vehicles to fully understand how and also impact they will have in the game and their influence on certain types of maps.
And above all how it will be played by the average player, especially in random games

 


Certainly it is not a vehicle born to spot in a passive way , but its speed completely out of the ordinary patterns that we are used to see for years will bring something revolutionary even outside the randoms battles.

 

It is definitely a tank that must be owned , moreover this vehicle in my humble opinion is the greatest and true nerf possible to arty cause finding them with this type of vehicle is so simple as destroying them ! :justwait:







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