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Wargene #1 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:06 PM

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Any thoughts on this line? Im really struggling on the SU-100M1 with its sub par gun but the SU-101 looks really fun fully upgraded.

Signal11th #2 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:07 PM

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tbh I wouldn't bother with it, it's one of those broken tanks that WG introduced that just gets spammed with gold or HE.  Like most Russian tanks in real life it wasn't that good, in WOT it's Russian so it carries 10x as much armor as any other tank shoots mini nukes and goes twice as fast but gets balanced by every man and his dog and a couple of the birds that fly overhead dropping gold on you because they can't be arsed to shoot at the obvious weak spot or the lower weak spot that's so small you would need nano technology to hit.

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:32 PM

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The 268v4...

 

  • Bad DPM
  • Bad accuracy
  • Mediocre mobility
  • RNG armor that doesn't hold against the gold spam

 

About the SU-101, yes on paper it looks good but keep in mind the tougher opponents that you'll meet against those stats.



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It is still OP do not worry about it. Even if some people do not want to admit it.

Crashzi #5 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:39 PM

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No point in getting it as soon as you join battle the enemy is gonna press 2 and your tank becomes a giant weakpoint

antwerp_fighter #6 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:41 PM

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I dont have any tanks beyond SU-101, but I can say:

SU-100M1 is better than SU-101...tier for tier.



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View Postantwerp_fighter, on 16 January 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

I dont have any tanks beyond SU-101, but I can say:

SU-100M1 is better than SU-101...tier for tier.

 

Fully agree

qpranger #8 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:53 PM

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I am happy with Obj 263.

OMG_Abaddon #9 Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:58 PM

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All russian tanks have a hidden modifier that keeps them balanced, FYI:

 

Russian bias: +25% chance to have enemy players instantly shoot gold at you.

 

Granted gold spam is fairly common in higher tiers, but I'm one of those players who barely ever shoots premium and damn, I've even spammed gold at tanks on my own tier just because they were Russian, and I really don't need any gold to pen lower plates.

 

Best done with swedish TDs with siege mode.



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View Postantwerp_fighter, on 16 January 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

I dont have any tanks beyond SU-101, but I can say:

SU-100M1 is better than SU-101...tier for tier.

Yes agree with that. The armour profile on the su-100m1 is OP, I actually brawled t8 heavies in it. The whole line appears to be crap at sniping, which considering its a td means you have to get out of the camping mindset. I just played my su-100m1 and su 101 like brawling heavies. Ditched the camo and binocs and just went full yolo. I grinded through them without much thought and got 60% ish wr on both. Russian tank balance :)

 

The su101 still has good armour but not as good tier for tier as its predecessor . But considering you can load gold and get 340 pen and the same tier heavy for instance an IS6 or 112 there gold is 100 pen lower... they dont really like trading shots with you :) and you are faster than them too.

 

Ive kept the su-100m1 as its good at the bouncing vs hps missions.

 



Dinux #11 Posted 16 January 2019 - 06:44 PM

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No point going higher then obj 263 really.

 

The 268v4 has

 

  • Poor gun and poor accuracy like most Russian td´s has. So stick to cqb and mid range ~ 250/m.

  • It stil has some what good mobility from point A to B lol - It turns like a CVN so deside where to go from (A/B) and avoid all the turns to B.

  • And always, always have someone close too save you, you will be f*** over if you solo in it.

  • This tank is not OP, its underperforming in the current meta of the game and so those alot of tanks. Nothing new really, nerf do that to alot of tanks when kids cry about OP tanks from it in-game stats. You need to drive it to understand why its underperforming e.i US T110E5.

  •  As qpranger said – Obj 263 is stil a gem, can snipe/cqb/mid. I do that alot since the devs don´t like how many of us play this tank (why change the line,!!!).

  • So stick with the Obj 263 and flip the finger to the ”man” who f** up the hole line bc of greed.

  • 2:nd You will sooner or later get the XP to unlock the 258/4 if you going that road. My tank collect dust, hardly even use it, use it in Dec during the X5 days, same as my Bagder :(



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I really enjoyed the SU100M1 but that was before the changes, back then it had the most accurate gun in the game and was an insane sniper with the speed of a Cromwell. Around the time of the changes to the line I got the SU101 and it's quite a great TD, that armour bounces a lot of hits and the top gun is a real boomstick, trouble is it's a mid-range or close range brawler and you really do need plenty of backup so people don't flank you

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 16 January 2019 - 05:32 PM, said:

The 268v4...

 

  • Bad DPM
  • Bad accuracy
  • Mediocre mobility
  • RNG armor that doesn't hold against the gold spam

 

About the SU-101, yes on paper it looks good but keep in mind the tougher opponents that you'll meet against those stats.

 

I don't think you've played the 268 v4 then.. lol Accuracy is pretty decent, plus, the tank is an aggressive one, you don't camp with it. If you do that, *edited* , anyway, mobility is rlly good, and the armor is purely heavenly bro.
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View PostWargene, on 16 January 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

Any thoughts on this line? Im really struggling on the SU-100M1 with its sub par gun but the SU-101 looks really fun fully upgraded.

 

I do honestly recommend you sticking to this line. SU-101 is a beast once you have the top gun on it, 263 also a very very good tank with the top gun. If you manage to hide it's lower plate, it's a pure beast and the 268 v4 is just way better than the rest of them. I legit have almost 1k battles on it and I can say it's one of the best tanks I've ever played in. Very good armor, rlly good pen, pretty good speed. You'll see if you're gonna buy it. It's worth it.

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268v4 is still broken and overpowered, but the way it got nerfed makes it horribly unfun to play while still being a complete pain to play against. I wouldn't reccomend it, especially if you find the SU-100M1 gun subpar, as its just much of the same for the rest of the line. SU-101 is a lot worse than the SU-100M1 tier-for-tier, with comparatively weaker armour, less gun dep and a derpier gun.

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I think you got it backwards. Su100.01 M is the one that is good. It's like a T7 V4 and when against T7s it can carry the battle. And T7s get better MM. SU101 is meh at best. Alpha is nothing special, it has nothing. Can't even reach full VR with binos. V4 on the other hand is still pretty powerful in my opinion just not OP like it used to be but still very powerful. High pen gun with good alpha and good mobility. It's like an E3 that can go at 50 KpH while it loses DPM and alpha. Seems like a good trade.

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View PostRati_Festa, on 16 January 2019 - 04:58 PM, said:

Yes agree with that. The armour profile on the su-100m1 is OP, I actually brawled t8 heavies in it. The whole line appears to be crap at sniping, which considering its a td means you have to get out of the camping mindset. I just played my su-100m1 and su 101 like brawling heavies. Ditched the camo and binocs and just went full yolo. I grinded through them without much thought and got 60% ish wr on both. Russian tank balance :)

 

The su101 still has good armour but not as good tier for tier as its predecessor . But considering you can load gold and get 340 pen and the same tier heavy for instance an IS6 or 112 there gold is 100 pen lower... they dont really like trading shots with you :) and you are faster than them too.

 

Ive kept the su-100m1 as its good at the bouncing vs hps missions.

 

 

I'm struggling with this the M1, frankly! But I'm playing it as a traditional TD, so I shall have a try as a brawler, but I'm VERY bad at knife fights! Ditching net and binos - what eqpt did you use instead to make it more effective to brawl?

 

Thanks!



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View PostLeepants, on 17 January 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

 

I'm struggling with this the M1, frankly! But I'm playing it as a traditional TD, so I shall have a try as a brawler, but I'm VERY bad at knife fights! Ditching net and binos - what eqpt did you use instead to make it more effective to brawl?

 

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I would use Rammer - Vents - optics/binos.

 

If you want a sniping TDs you should go for Swedish TD, German Grille line (especially the T8 and T9), American TDs up to T7, British FV4005 line.

 

The SU-100M1 is bad at sniping mostly due to the terrible dpm, which means it is not effective enough at taking down enemies to be a good sniper.

Though it have pretty awesome frontal armour, on it can brawl decent, which is a situation where dpm is of less importance. 



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View PostWargene, on 16 January 2019 - 04:06 PM, said:

Any thoughts on this line? Im really struggling on the SU-100M1 with its sub par gun but the SU-101 looks really fun fully upgraded.

 

Then don't snipe with the Su-100m1. If you are struggling with the tank you should stay at lower tiers. Su100m1 is op. It has armor it should not be able to get at t7. You attack close range and bully tanks with sub 210pen. 

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 16 January 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

The 268v4...

 

  • Bad DPM
  • Bad accuracy
  • Mediocre mobility
  • RNG armor that doesn't hold against the gold spam

 

About the SU-101, yes on paper it looks good but keep in mind the tougher opponents that you'll meet against those stats.

 

Having yesterday played cat-and-mouse against an actively operated Object 268V4 with my T-62 in Lakeville's town side, I can say that Object's

- bad DPM doesn't count, 

- mobility is by no means mediocre and 

- front armor holds well enough. 



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View PostLordMuffin, on 17 January 2019 - 10:07 AM, said:

I would use Rammer - Vents - optics/binos.

 

If you want a sniping TDs you should go for Swedish TD, German Grille line (especially the T8 and T9), American TDs up to T7, British FV4005 line.

 

The SU-100M1 is bad at sniping mostly due to the terrible dpm, which means it is not effective enough at taking down enemies to be a good sniper.

Though it have pretty awesome frontal armour, on it can brawl decent, which is a situation where dpm is of less importance. 

 

Thanks Muff. I shall give this a whirl. :medal:




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