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Urzum #1 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:10 PM

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Just got this beast of a machine and i get to witness some very weird deaths while playing with it. What happened today was the worst.
I was on the not-very-nice map called Empire Border and i died in a very ridiculous way:

(ignore the sound at the beginning, i was watching Doug Demuro :D )

 

The thing is i am taking excessive fall damage in this tank, regardless of the speed and angle i am falling. This happened on other maps as well, on various situations. And I am saying this while comparing with other light tanks I have played. Do you think i should have taken full HP damage from that fall? I mean, yeah, i shouldn't go without a scratch, but full damage for that is exaggerated.

Before i send a ticket to Wargaming about this, what do you guys think?

 

the replay can be found here:

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NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:12 PM

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How about you don't waste supports time because you can't drive straight?

PervyPastryPuffer #3 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:15 PM

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I am utterly astounded how you are unable to notice your tank suddenly stopping before it explodes.

 

YOU HIT A ROCK, IT'S AS IF YOU FELL AND HIT A WALL, THAT'S WHAT KILLED YOU...

 

Waste of all our time.



Urzum #4 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:17 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 17 January 2019 - 08:12 PM, said:

How about you don't waste supports time because you can't drive straight?

 

Is this the best you can do? Are you looking to get as many useless forum posts as possible? I wanted to go down that slope, as i wasn't even expecting to get that much fall damage.
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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 17 January 2019 - 08:15 PM, said:

I am utterly astounded how you are unable to notice your tank suddenly stopping before it explodes.

 

YOU HIT A ROCK, IT'S AS IF YOU FELL AND HIT A WALL, THAT'S WHAT KILLED YOU...

 

Waste of all our time.

 

holy foching stug! you think it's normal to lose your tank from that fall? you wasted more time replying to the post than actually watching it. waste of forum replies...

NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:26 PM

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View PostUrzum, on 17 January 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

Is this the best you can do? Are you looking to get as many useless forum posts as possible? I wanted to go down that slope, as i wasn't even expecting to get that much fall damage.
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holy foching stug! you think it's normal to lose your tank from that fall? you wasted more time replying to the post than actually watching it. waste of forum replies...

 

 Do you really need an official response from WG support to tell you that if you don't want to risk fall damage then don't drive off cliffs?

Dorander #6 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:27 PM

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No I would not have expected instant explosion from that fall distance either. It looks more like the game is punishing for being at a location you really shouldn't be at. You drop off the cliff at 40-41 km/h, you hit something, your speed drops to 33 and your tank explodes.

 

Mind you if you'd made it all the way down I doubt you would've been much more alive, perhaps barely... but exploding halfway looks weird.



Urzum #7 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:33 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 17 January 2019 - 08:26 PM, said:

 

 

 Do you really need an official response from WG support to tell you that if you don't want to risk fall damage then don't drive off cliffs?

 

in other words "you should take damage when you fall, regardless of the situation" right?
What about tanks falling from the bridge on Glacier map and getting merely 30% damage?

PervyPastryPuffer #8 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:40 PM

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View PostUrzum, on 17 January 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:

holy foching stug! you think it's normal to lose your tank from that fall? you wasted more time replying to the post than actually watching it. waste of forum replies...

 

Okay I admit it, you're right.

 

It's not the fall that killed you.

 

Suddenly stopping is what killed you.

 

You hit the ground (in this case, a rock) falling at 40 km/h in a tank with no more than an inch of frontal armor, what on EARTH do you expect, you're not in a heavy tank. It would be completely crushed, 40 km/h is no joking matter even for a tank, especially a light tank.

 

Why am I wasting my time arguing with you? It makes me look stupid...



Balc0ra #9 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:42 PM

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View PostUrzum, on 17 January 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:

holy foching stug! you think it's normal to lose your tank from that fall? you wasted more time replying to the post than actually watching it. waste of forum replies...

 

This is a game where tanks have HP, and you have to hit them a set number of times based on caliber to take them out. And you question what's normal?

 

It's an arcade game. As you see in your video. Your tank collides with a solid object in free fall. As in with the frontal armor first. You did not land on it with your wheels. And when your armor takes the impact vs your wheels. It doesn't work out the same way in terms of damage calculation. And a fall like that with no armor can indeed kill you. It's why most say the 50b is the best rammer in the game. Due to the armor thickness at the point of impact. 



SABAOTH #10 Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:42 PM

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German steel :coin:

SuedKAT #11 Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:53 PM

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When they released 1.0 they also released a lot of reworked maps, plenty of them have death rocks around slopes/cliffs like that, try and slide down from the hill on Mines for example, was rather easy in the past, now a days it's almost always instant death if you ain't careful. So no it's not tank specific, tanks + slope + rock = death, since 1.0.

fwhaatpiraat #12 Posted 17 January 2019 - 11:03 PM

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Those are the quirks and features of the ru251.

 

Spoiler

 



WoT_RU_Doing #13 Posted 18 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

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Just because it has RU in the name, doesn't mean it has Russian armour.

Cobra6 #14 Posted 18 January 2019 - 12:59 PM

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Light(ly armored) vehicles take extreme falling damage, always have.

 

Another way skill based classes are punished more for the same offense, a Maus falling down the same cliff as an RU251 has a good chance of surviving.

 

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DuncaN_101 #15 Posted 18 January 2019 - 02:25 PM

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The maus will also not be going the same speed as the RU tho.

1ucky #16 Posted 18 January 2019 - 02:33 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 18 January 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

The maus will also not be going the same speed as the RU tho.

 

And it will have a spall liner. :P

_Flagada_Jones_ #17 Posted 18 January 2019 - 02:40 PM

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Ru is subject to fast death because he combines no armor and fast drive.

You can hit a little roc, that make jump and turn the RU. He will fall on his flank, even if jump 30cm, he is dead.

Cobra6 #18 Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:16 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 18 January 2019 - 01:25 PM, said:

The maus will also not be going the same speed as the RU tho.

 

What do you mean? It will fall at the same speed down the hill as an RU when it slides off the side.

 

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DuncaN_101 #19 Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:21 PM

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I mean it's Friday and I'm stupid for not thinking it out right :P:hiding:

 

I'll show myself out now 



Strappster #20 Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:23 PM

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From 9.14, when scenery was buffed ...

 

 

Skip to 0:40 for the incident in question. In short, it happens, I'm less surprised that your nose-dive resulted in your death than what happened to me.







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