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Fanste94 #1 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:12 AM

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Can you please add an anticheat to the game already

SuedKAT #2 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:18 AM

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If you'd use google you'll find that there already is one in place, however it's major downside is that it don't catch tinfoil.

DeadLecter #3 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:19 AM

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Dude WoT has the best Anti-Cheat among all online games. Almost everything is server sided. So you don't have to worry about clients manipulating in-game mechanics. There are very few things that can be modified via illegal mods and I assure none of them can really make a difference. If you are good, you can beat anyone who might use those cheats.

Homer_J #4 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:21 AM

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View PostFanste94, on 19 January 2019 - 11:12 PM, said:

Can you please add an anticheat to the game already

 

It's there already.  You know just because it doesn't throw a fit for no reason like Punkbuster and VAC do doesn't mean it isn't working.

 

Or would you prefer a fancy splash screen to make you feel warm and cosy but which does nothing to actually stop cheats?

 

And what's wrong with your old thread?


Edited by Homer_J, 20 January 2019 - 12:24 AM.


seXikanac #5 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:58 AM

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There is not proper anticheat in WoT as long as XVM exists

NUKLEAR_SLUG #6 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:07 AM

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XVM isn't a cheat neither is it an illegal mod until WG decide otherwise.



PervyPastryPuffer #7 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:16 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 January 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

XVM isn't a cheat neither is it an illegal mod until WG decide otherwise.

 

I agree, it's not a cheat, nor is it illegal.

 

However, it becomes that once players use the info it provides to focus individuals and/or decrease the team's chances of winning by suiciding due to 20% win chance and/or being toxic towards red/orange/etc. players...

 

And/or, and/or, and/or...

 

The list goes on.

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 January 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

until WG decide otherwise.

 

A noticeable amount of players have long ago decided otherwise about its "features" but WG fails to listen, for reasons unknown...



Alabamatick #8 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:25 AM

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View PostFanste94, on 19 January 2019 - 11:12 PM, said:

Can you please add an anticheat to the game already

 

Let me take a wild guess..........you got shot

 

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Robbie_T #9 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:42 AM

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There are cheaters in the game

A EX clan member of mine got banned for using illegal mods.

He sayed he used the mod for ages (dont believe a cheater)

HE is back in the game though but kicked out of the clan.

How he got discovered was by a Polish you tuber .(GJ!)

From what i heared he used a mod that showed where the ammo rack was on the enemy tank (dont know if it was auto aiming as well)

And he sayd he didnt knew that was illegal.......yeah right.....

So with that experience i would say yeah they should make a anti cheat system.

 

 

 


Edited by Robbie_T, 20 January 2019 - 01:46 AM.


PervyPastryPuffer #10 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:56 AM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 20 January 2019 - 01:42 AM, said:

There are cheaters in the game

A EX clan member of mine got banned for using illegal mods.

He sayed he used the mod for ages (dont believe a cheater)

HE is back in the game though but kicked out of the clan.

How he got discovered was by a Polish you tuber .(GJ!)

From what i heared he used a mod that showed where the ammo rack was on the enemy tank (dont know if it was auto aiming as well)

And he sayd he didnt knew that was illegal.......yeah right.....

So with that experience i would say yeah they should make a anti cheat system.

 

...that might explain how I've had situations where I've received ammorack damage with every shot from certain tanks, even after I'd repaired it they'd still damage it, eventually blowing me up.

 

Those occasions are rare though...could be pure luck, coincidence...could be a cheat...either way it was weird.

 

Can't say I've had that happen recently though. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time it happened.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:01 AM

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 20 January 2019 - 01:56 AM, said:

 

...that might explain how I've had situations where I've received ammorack damage with every shot from certain tanks, even after I'd repaired it they'd still damage it, eventually blowing me up.

 

 

Modules having a saving roll. Even if they sat right next to you and shot you multiple times into your ammorack it would not guarantee consecutive damaging hits, so no, you just got unlucky



Homer_J #12 Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:09 AM

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 20 January 2019 - 12:56 AM, said:

 

...that might explain how I've had situations where I've received ammorack damage with every shot from certain tanks, even after I'd repaired it they'd still damage it, eventually blowing me up.

 

 

Knowing where ammo racks are is pretty basic stuff.  There's three or four basic tank designs.  And if you are driving a German tank they are right where autoaim will aim at from your side.

 

Damaging an ammo rack requires more than just hitting the right spot though, there is an RNG based saving throw, if the server says no damage then you get no damage.


Edited by Homer_J, 20 January 2019 - 02:11 AM.


malachi6 #13 Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:43 AM

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I have a "few" games and only twice have I seen behaviour I find "questionable".  Sure, I have seen suspected bots.  But that is all they are.  Only twice have I thought "Hold on something is off here".  Then, I am a believer in Occam's razor.

JocMeister #14 Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:55 AM

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View PostFanste94, on 20 January 2019 - 12:12 AM, said:

Can you please add an anticheat to the game already

 

47% things.

Blubba #15 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:00 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 19 January 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

 

It's there already.  You know just because it doesn't throw a fit for no reason like Punkbuster and VAC do doesn't mean it isn't working.

 

Or would you prefer a fancy splash screen to make you feel warm and cosy but which does nothing to actually stop cheats?

 

And what's wrong with your old thread?

 

Jeesh…. you must have a memory like my old lady. How the hell did you remember his old thread?

seXikanac #16 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:48 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 January 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

XVM isn't a cheat neither is it an illegal mod until WG decide otherwise.

 

Nah, but people use it to run cheats :D

Jigabachi #17 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:40 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 January 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

XVM isn't a cheat neither is it an illegal mod until WG decide otherwise.

It's an obvious cheatmod that WG somehow allows players to use.

 

@ thread: What about an anti-spam-system first?



DeadLecter #18 Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:26 PM

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Honestly the only cheats I'm aware of are:

Reload timers. Which don't really give an edge, if you are familiar with the tanks then you already know the reload time of each one of them.

Mini map destruction ping: When ever an object on the map gets destroyed it pings on the mini map so you know where to expect the enemy to poke.

Ghost tanks: Which leaves a ghost of the tank after it has been spotted and unspotted.

Laser beams out of the barrel.

And honestly none of these give an edge to anyone. Aimbots are also completely useless.

And regarding mods that show the ammo rack location of tanks, that mod only ruins your game, since you will always be trying to hit the ammo rack and you might miss, bounce and eventually lose with little to no damage done. The important stuff are all server sided. In other FPS games, I have seen people with aimbot who headshot everyone, Those who right scripts to buff their own armor, unlimited magazines and so on. WoT is really one of the cleanest video games I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. Specially F2P ones which are swarming with cheaters.

BTW, XVM is not a cheat and it is very useful. Having good stats doesn't mean you're a good player but having bad stats definitely means you are a bad player and in the battle I need to know whether I can rely on the guy behind me or not. Other than stats, it has lots of other useful features. Showing how much damage is needed for High Caliber. Showing the total HP of both teams. Traverse angles for turretless TDs on the minimap. Moving crew with one button from tank to the other, and with some tweaks, I added gold and free XP lockers so I don't accidentally use them.


Edited by DeadLecter, 20 January 2019 - 12:29 PM.


m1x_angelico #19 Posted 20 January 2019 - 01:39 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 20 January 2019 - 12:19 AM, said:

Dude WoT has the best Anti-Cheat among all online games. Almost everything is server sided. So you don't have to worry about clients manipulating in-game mechanics. There are very few things that can be modified via illegal mods and I assure none of them can really make a difference. If you are good, you can beat anyone who might use those cheats.

 

This is true. I would just add that you don't even have to be good to beat cheaters. You just have to understand how most popular cheats work to counter them.

Balc0ra #20 Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:32 PM

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View PostFanste94, on 20 January 2019 - 12:12 AM, said:

Can you please add an anticheat to the game already

 

As pr usual, you leave little details in your topics. 

 

Like why you feel it needs it? How many pr match or day do you feel cheat vs you? What cheats do they use? As going by past "cheat" topics in this game. Most of them are down to not understanding game mechanics more so than needing an anti-cheat. 

 

Best topic we had about this was one that came here once a week to whine about it. Then he had not played for a few days and saw an update "micro patch" that was added a few days prior. It did nothing to ruin mods. But he thought they did, and he thought the patch was that day. And made a topic about how fun the game was that day when no one had workable mods that day due to a patch, and no one cheated. When in fact everyone could run mods just fine. 






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