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Poll: Grand Battle Team Sizes (45 members have cast votes)

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Do You Enjoy (or Even Play) Grand Battles in Their Current Format?

  1. Yes. (26 votes [57.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.78%

  2. No. (19 votes [42.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.22%

Would grand Battles be More Interesting at 15 vs 15?

  1. Yes. (10 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. No. (24 votes [53.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.33%

  3. Don't Care. (11 votes [24.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.44%

Would You Play Grand Battles if Team Sizes Were Reduced?

  1. Yes. (20 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

  2. No. (25 votes [55.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.56%

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Erwin_Von_Braun #1 Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:47 PM

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Been seeing a quite a few of these recently in my attempts to farm bonds at tier x.

Must say I quite enjoy them, it's something a little different although, even I will agree, that four arty is just too much.:hiding:

Anyways, been sat here thinking and couldn't help but wonder if 30 vs 30 is too much.

I love the bigger maps but they've been gimped by doubling the amount of players so it becomes the same crowded slug-fest, just on a bigger scale.

I can't help but wonder how these maps would play out with smaller teams - I get the feeling that they would be a lot more challenging and, dare I say it, fun.

Maneuvering, coordination & teamwork would become far more important - Tier X LT's's would finally get the chance to do what they are designed for and arty would be far more vulnerable than it currently id.


 

With that in mind, I propose the following - keep the bigger maps but drop the number of players to 15 vs 15.


 

What say you?


 


 


 


Edited by Erwin_Von_Braun, 20 January 2019 - 08:47 PM.


DutchBaron_ #2 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:02 PM

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I kinda enjoy grand battles mostly as variation but 4 arty is way to much. Since most of your team isn't spotted all the time you can expect a lot of arty shots incoming when you are spotted. Also late game is just a mess. When there are like 10 tanks left in each team from 4 of which are arty the team that camps the most wins. Late game is just horrible if it isn't a steamroll

Erwin_Von_Braun #3 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostDutchBaron_, on 20 January 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

I kinda enjoy grand battles mostly as variation but 4 arty is way to much. Since most of your team isn't spotted all the time you can expect a lot of arty shots incoming when you are spotted. Also late game is just a mess. When there are like 10 tanks left in each team from 4 of which are arty the team that camps the most wins. Late game is just horrible if it isn't a steamroll

 

I know what you mean about late game madness - that is the one thing I would be concerned about with 15 vs 15 - there is a good chance that battles would just descend into what a fighter pilot would call a 'furball'.

 



BlackBloodBandit #4 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:53 PM

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1st question is 2 in 1.. doesn't make sense.

It's ok from time to time. I don't mind about 30 vs 30. wouldn't be great with 15 vs 15 I think. maps would be too big.



Erwin_Von_Braun #5 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:56 PM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 20 January 2019 - 08:53 PM, said:

1st question is 2 in 1.. doesn't make sense.

It's ok from time to time. I don't mind about 30 vs 30. wouldn't be great with 15 vs 15 I think. maps would be too big.

 

Doesn't makes sense?

Allow me to explain - to be able to enjoy GB's one must play them:)

Is that clear enough or shall I draw you a picture?



Homer_J #6 Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:58 PM

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I don't think 15v15 would be right but maybe 20 v 20

 

30v30 seems more crowded than regular randoms.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:01 PM

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I'd really like to see the current maps in randoms with 10v10 or even 7v7. The game play is much better than the "Hodor" 15v15.

Erwin_Von_Braun #8 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:02 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 20 January 2019 - 08:58 PM, said:

I don't think 15v15 would be right but maybe 20 v 20

 

30v30 seems more crowded than regular randoms.

 

20 vs 20 sounds perfectly reasonable - like you say, just enough to de-clutter the map a bit.
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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 20 January 2019 - 09:01 PM, said:

I'd really like to see the current maps in randoms with 10v10 or even 7v7. The game play is much better than the "Hodor" 15v15.

 

Hmm?

Not a bad idea at all - hadn't thought of that.


 

 



Discontinued #9 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:04 PM

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I enjoy GB too and would like to see it at tier 8 again and even tier 6

 

although the thought of GB at tier 1 makes me chuckle!

 

I don't get that many only 2 in day sometimes?

 

It seems many players have disabled it.

 

 



pudelikael #10 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:06 PM

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The arty ruining Grand Battles. 4 artys both side is too much. The solution would be one arty both side or 4 artys but half shooting range. Arty can shoot only 50% map size. 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:20 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 January 2019 - 11:02 PM, said:

Hmm?

Not a bad idea at all - hadn't thought of that.

 

I have an unhealthy obsession with team battles and alternative modes to randoms, that's where the idea came from. Anyway, lights and mediums can have really good games with only 10 tanks in 1000×1000m maps.

 

Imagine you're in a tier 8 progetto in live oaks for example and you go to the 0 line to find a hull down monster. Normally you've to wait for that guy to die by arty or some high pen guns but with the maps less populated you can just leave him there to enjoy the view and go do something else.

 

Also there will be less incentive to camp, currently you make a bad move, get shot by 3-4 guns and you're back to garage. With less guns it'll be more forgiving to make moves and try new things.



BlackBloodBandit #12 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:27 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 January 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

Doesn't makes sense?

Allow me to explain - to be able to enjoy GB's one must play them:)

Is that clear enough or shall I draw you a picture?

very funny..

you ask if people enjoy them, 2nd question is if people play them at all.

do you want a picture about that or is it to hard to read what you wrote yourself?



Jigabachi #13 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:36 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 January 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

Doesn't makes sense?

Allow me to explain - to be able to enjoy GB's one must play them:)

Is that clear enough or shall I draw you a picture?

Not playing and not enjoying are two completely different things, so that question will falsify the outcome of the poll.



jack_timber #14 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:46 PM

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I rather like GBs would be nice if they were opened to T8 to 10 though.

Erwin_Von_Braun #15 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:12 PM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 20 January 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

very funny..

you ask if people enjoy them, 2nd question is if people play them at all.

do you want a picture about that or is it to hard to read what you wrote yourself?

 

How the deuce can someone enjoy or not enjoy the mode if the don't play it?

Yes, I would love to see a picture explaining that.


 

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View PostJigabachi, on 20 January 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

Not playing and not enjoying are two completely different things, so that question will falsify the outcome of the poll.

 

Then I'll ask the same question of you - explain how someone can not enjoy something they don't do?

Not that I expect anything other than blunt one-lines.

Seriously, the only contribution you can make is to pick holes in how I word my questions?


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BlackBloodBandit #16 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:23 PM

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It's simple.. it's the only effective way to grind bonds.. wether you like the game mode or not.

Jigabachi #17 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:30 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 January 2019 - 11:12 PM, said:

Then I'll ask the same question of you - explain how someone can not enjoy something they don't do?

Not that I expect anything other than blunt one-lines.

Spoiler

What would that outcome tell us? What information about the quality and enjoyment of that gamemode can we draw from it?

 

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 Seriously, the only contribution you can make is to pick holes in how I word my questions?

I don't play that gamemode, so I can't contribute much about the topic.

But you added the poll for a reason, I guess. Not just out of boredom. So you should be interested in getting a somewhat workable result.



Erwin_Von_Braun #18 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:46 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 20 January 2019 - 10:30 PM, said:

Spoiler

What would that outcome tell us? What information about the quality and enjoyment of that gamemode can we draw from it?

 

I don't play that gamemode, so I can't contribute much about the topic.

But you added the poll for a reason, I guess. Not just out of boredom. So you should be interested in getting a somewhat workable result.

 

About the same as every other thing on this forum?

 

And that, my mono-syllabic clan mate, is where you are wrong - boredom was the prime motivator.

Boredom with how bland & turgid this forum has become.

Surely you see that, no matter how poorly laid out any poll &/or thread is, the results mean nothing?

Still, it must be easy to be critical of something someone else has created when you're stuck on the outside looking in.

:)

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 20 January 2019 - 10:23 PM, said:

It's simple.. it's the only effective way to grind bonds.. wether you like the game mode or not.

 

Still waiting for that picture...

 



Dava_117 #19 Posted 20 January 2019 - 11:53 PM

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I have GB enabled, but have to say that 4 arty per team ruin the game mode a lot. 

I got multiple times cases in wich I lost 1.5-2k HP in 5 seconds due to artys. 

If they limit them to 2, it would be quite better and entertaining as game mode.



WhoCares01 #20 Posted 21 January 2019 - 10:27 AM

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Actually consider to enable it to complete some missions - should be easier to make 6k damage + 5 kills in a TD (JpE100 or Strv103B) - but with 4 farty I guess with the JpE100 I would not like it very much...




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