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AlwaysLate #1 Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:21 AM

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i dont care i will post this every day until the wg decide to buff it 

duijm #2 Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:16 AM

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It dont really needs a buff....it needs +1 MM

WoT_RU_Doing #3 Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:21 AM

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View PostAlwaysLate, on 23 January 2019 - 05:21 AM, said:

i dont care i will post this every day until the wg decide to buff it

 

View Postduijm, on 23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM, said:

It dont really needs a buff....it needs +1 MM

 

Why?

Yaccay #4 Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:07 AM

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View PostWoT_RU_Doing, on 23 January 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

 

 

Why?

 

Because Alwayslate has a Mauerbrecher in his garage and he thinks Mauerbrecher is underperforming.

 

Alwayslate has an average 53.7 % winrate, while with Mauerbrecher he has 62% winrate.

 



satakuua #5 Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:09 AM

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Man, I’d be ashamed of such numbers!

BlackBloodBandit #6 Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:00 AM

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OP you must be facing a lot of troll players or being top tier a lot. It is full of weakspots, that only lower tiers can not pen.

qpranger #7 Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:34 AM

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View PostAlwaysLate, on 23 January 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

i dont care i will post this every day...

 

I don't care if you post every day either :)

gpalsson #8 Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:53 AM

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View PostYaccay, on 23 January 2019 - 07:07 AM, said:

 

Because Alwayslate has a Mauerbrecher in his garage and he thinks Mauerbrecher is underperforming.

 

Alwayslate has an average 53.7 % winrate, while with Mauerbrecher he has 62% winrate.

 

 

actually +1mm would be great because it would allow for much better balance and reintroduction of weakspots. Heavies would no longer be gods when top tier and free exp when bottom tier.

tajj7 #9 Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:03 AM

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View Postgpalsson, on 23 January 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

actually +1mm would be great because it would allow for much better balance and reintroduction of weakspots. Heavies would no longer be gods when top tier and free exp when bottom tier.

 

Well thats the thing, the Mauerbrecker has weakspots and the average WOT heavy player these days is not able to handle heavies that require some brain power.  They have been fed a diet of Defenders, Japanese Heavies, Bobjects, VK 1001Ps etc. where you don't have to worry about trivial things like people penning you frontally. 

 

+1/-1 generally though would be great. 



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View Posttajj7, on 23 January 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

Well thats the thing, the Mauerbrecker has weakspots and the average WOT heavy player these days is not able to handle heavies that require some brain power.  They have been fed a diet of Defenders, Japanese Heavies, Bobjects, VK 1001Ps etc. where you don't have to worry about trivial things like people penning you frontally.

 

+1/-1 generally though would be great.

 

wow...there's a name I've not seen in a while

DuncaN_101 #11 Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:16 AM

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Indeed... Welcome back tajj

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View Posttajj7, on 23 January 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

Well thats the thing, the Mauerbrecker has weakspots and the average WOT heavy player these days is not able to handle heavies that require some brain power.  They have been fed a diet of Defenders, Japanese Heavies, Bobjects, VK 1001Ps etc. where you don't have to worry about trivial things like people penning you frontally. 

 

+1/-1 generally though would be great. 

 

i have been out of the game for a while. I mistook the maur with the VK binary P

AlwaysLate #13 Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:51 AM

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because this tank is abysmal 2 weak spots that can be penned by 2 tier lower tanks from any angel lower can easily penned and vs tier 8 weak side, weak turret, weak mantlet,  worse gun than defender, slow as hell, 0 protection vs arty and tier 10 tank with gold auto pen you they dont even need to land the shell on u as soon as they click the server registers the damage.

having a good stats on a tank doesnt necessarily mean the tank is good maybe am a good player but trust me that tank is even worse than the amx 65 t i was wrong about the 65 t its bad really bad but not as bad as the mauertrasher

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View Posttajj7, on 23 January 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

 

Well thats the thing, the Mauerbrecker has weakspots and the average WOT heavy player these days is not able to handle heavies that require some brain power.  They have been fed a diet of Defenders, Japanese Heavies, Bobjects, VK 1001Ps etc. where you don't have to worry about trivial things like people penning you frontally. 

 

+1/-1 generally though would be great. 

 

a heavy that requires brain power? there is an 80 mm armor plate behind ur tracks a cromwell can literally track damage you using ap shells all tier 6 with +80iq will shred ur weak spots becuase you are a top tier heavy you cant play the SUPPORT role you have to be at the frontline, sidescraping doesnt work vs people with +75 iq they might shot once but then they will wait for the right moment to pen you , you have 40 mm of roof armor tier 6 m44 does over 200 damage to you and there is nothing you can do about it apart from camping which again YOU ARE TOP TIER HEAVY TANK you cant camp and you have to face defender's is-3s , is-3as , vk 100p and ohos which btw since ur roof armor is only 40 oho will do almost 400 all the time if he shots near it plus most of the times you are against tier 10 gold spammers which like what i said will auto pen you there is nothing good about this tank nothing just nothing the gun is not good cuz of the soft stats, they are so trash that the defender gun is much better comparing it to the mauertrasher's one

 

10:00 Added after 9 minutes

instead of telling people to use thier brain why dont you use ur brain and look at its armor model https://tanks.gg/v09...nk/mauerbrecher

 

 



AlwaysLate #14 Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:12 AM

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JUST ANGUL YOUR ARMOR YOU ARE HEVY TANK , YO JAST NYD TO YOUSE UR BRYN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHH

tajj7 #15 Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:13 AM

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View PostAlwaysLate, on 23 January 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

because this tank is abysmal 2 weak spots that can be penned by 2 tier lower tanks from any angel lower can easily penned and vs tier 8 weak side, weak turret, weak mantlet,  worse gun than defender, slow as hell, 0 protection vs arty and tier 10 tank with gold auto pen you they dont even need to land the shell on u as soon as they click the server registers the damage.

having a good stats on a tank doesnt necessarily mean the tank is good maybe am a good player but trust me that tank is even worse than the amx 65 t i was wrong about the 65 t its bad really bad but not as bad as the mauertrasher

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a heavy that requires brain power? there is an 80 mm armor plate behind ur tracks a cromwell can literally track damage you using ap shells all tier 6 with +80iq will shred ur weak spots becuase you are a top tier heavy you cant play the SUPPORT role you have to be at the frontline, sidescraping doesnt work vs people with +75 iq they might shot once but then they will wait for the right moment to pen you , you have 40 mm of roof armor tier 6 m44 does over 200 damage to you and there is nothing you can do about it apart from camping which again YOU ARE TOP TIER HEAVY TANK you cant camp and you have to face defender's is-3s , is-3as , vk 100p and ohos which btw since ur roof armor is only 40 oho will do almost 400 all the time if he shots near it plus most of the times you are against tier 10 gold spammers which like what i said will auto pen you there is nothing good about this tank nothing just nothing the gun is not good cuz of the soft stats, they are so trash that the defender gun is much better comparing it to the mauertrasher's one

 

10:00 Added after 9 minutes

instead of telling people to use thier brain why dont you use ur brain and look at its armor model https://tanks.gg/v09...nk/mauerbrecher

 

 

 

I'd agree that the inside track thing probably should be fixed, though its one of those areas that 99% of the playerbase has no idea about and probably hits through luck, but is annoying and shouldn't be there. 

 

But the rest of the tank is performing statistically fine. 

 

Pretty much every heavy in the game has 30 or 40mm hull roof armour, that is hardly an issue, especially as the tank is so tall nothing unless its very high above will be able to overmatch that. Arty is also a problem for all heavies and pretty much everything in the game.

 

As for the weakspots, well you have a 150mm cupola, but it is only that if you hit it flat on, as its rounded and the machine gun port is pretty small. The lower plate is like 190-200 effective which even flat on will trouble most lower tiers and can be hid.

 

That is the thing with weakspots, people act like accuracy is perfect and everyone is at point blank range to hit them, the reality is very far from that and reliably hitting those weakspots is not that easy.

 

The reality of how the tank performs is a long way away from your rant about it.

 

Last time Vbaddict was working the tank was bouncing over 40% of the shots fired at it, up there with other tier 8 heavies.

 

And the WR curve also shows it doing fine -

 

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It's actually probably one of the better balanced super heavy or armoured tanks WG as put into the game for a very very long time. 

 

The fact that you compare it to OP and idiot proof tanks like the Defender, VK 1001P and O-Ho highlights what I said, those tanks are not well balanced, the Defender and VK 1001 P are OP and the O-HO, like all Japanese heavies is just a broken concept that needs rebalancing. 

 

Plus WG are supposedly fixing the MM, so in theory this tank is going to see more tier 6s and 7s, and its already doing well as it is. It's a decently armoured tier 8 heavy packing tier 10 alpha and has tier 9 levels of hit points, even if it was bouncing nothing, it's still able to be effective. 

 

Fix the inside track thing, that is it, it doesn't need any actual buffs. Its a good example of what a balanced super heavy should look like IMO. Big gun, lots of HP, usable armour with weakspots, slow, unagile and poor gun handling. 


Edited by tajj7, 23 January 2019 - 11:17 AM.


AlwaysLate #16 Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:18 AM

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LOL i just saw your stats guys now i understand why its hard for you to understand its not good you still right click then left click......SO ME AUTO AIM ME NO PEN MAUERBRECHER IS TUNK OP as a stock IS  ofc

Jahpero #17 Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:26 AM

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Hello everyone, 

I locked this thread. To spam the forum in order to receive something isn't the correct choice. 

I would suggest you more to create one thread with the explanations of why you consider this tank should be buffed.

First of all it would be more constructive than just a sentence, and It wouldn't be considered as spam (which is against forum rules).

Thank you for your understanding.
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