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restore #1 Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:38 PM

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Do you also like those impossible pens against t95? Some should never pen, some should be absorbed in 100% of cases, and some others are just... Well, this one will be my favorite, it managed even to dmg ammorack :D
 



Sirebellus #2 Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:46 PM

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since when did a T95 have a Dalek's eye stalk on the left track cover ?

UrQuan #3 Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:49 PM

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That one is one of the more 'common' odd ones. It seems that when the T95 is shot like that, the shot bounces back into the tank, causing damage. Yes it is weird, considering that shots in the tracks usually tend to be harmless. But with the T95 they sometime tend to cause weird damage & hurting modules & crew deeper in the tank, hence suggesting that internal ricochets seem to happen.

Note, still a rare occurrence. just one I have seen poster here before & in such cases the replays help alot, as that hitmod only shows the impact place, not the time of damage. Note that it is AP that caused this, which seems to be the go-to shell for this track & damage thing for the T95. HEAT doesn't seem to be able to do it & haven't seen an APCR shell do it either, so it is possible that a shot like this is a combination of the pen rules, normalisation rules & ricochet angles & overmatch rules.

This is supported by the fact that the tank that did it was a T-10, likely armed with a 122mm gun, so overmatches all the 40mm armor (tracks) in there, but can't overmatch the sideskirt, but likely hit it at a ricochet angle, making it go deeper in the tank.


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restore #4 Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:01 PM

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Still, it pens skirt, pens tracks, bounces from inside of that skirt, pens tracks again, pens superstructure and damages ammo. All while losing pen power as its considerable distance. Clearly nothing is impossible for russian heavy :D

Homer_J #5 Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:01 PM

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I think this just shows the Battle hits mod isn't that reliable.

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Rick O' Shea

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View PostDiscontinued, on 23 January 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

Rick O' Shea

 

My favourite is Pat O'Cake, you know the bakers man...

UrQuan #9 Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:35 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 23 January 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

That was the post I'm thinking of + my own experience penning a T95 through the tracks with my T7 IS with 122mm gun, using AP shells.

wEight_Tanker #10 Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:39 PM

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I have no trouble with the doom turtle. I only aim for the cue-pole-uh and do success damage with 212 pen.

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 23 January 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

 

Good to know that nothing changed, guess ill go for training and ill try to replicate this just for fun

Fedeita89 #12 Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:04 PM

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View Postrestore, on 23 January 2019 - 06:01 PM, said:

Still, it pens skirt, pens tracks, bounces from inside of that skirt, pens tracks again, pens superstructure and damages ammo. All while losing pen power as its considerable distance. Clearly nothing is impossible for russian heavy :D

 

that's a rigged shot, it have to damage ammo rack wherever it hit

protossadun #13 Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:47 PM

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If you know T95 can be pentrated for those two observation windows, it's not difficult to damage it

SABAOTH #14 Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:00 AM

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View Postprotossadun, on 23 January 2019 - 11:47 PM, said:

If you know T95 can be pentrated for those two observation windows, it's not difficult to damage it

 

I wonder if in reality shooting a hatch would do any harm to a tank or crew.

 

Somehow I doubt it. :child:



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All i can say is i love my T95, but it rarely burns but when it does its always surreal, Like getting shot in the tracks above the front wheel? i find Xmas cammo helps to stop burning so often it must be some flame retardant paint!

Still i think it could do with an auto loader just imagine the T95A :great:

 

The T95 and the T110E3 are my favourite stat padding tanks at the moment ;) 

 

if a noob like me can get 53% then i dread to think what a good player could do, in these two tanks i'd like any  tips or to see some impressive stats?

 

Am  i doing something right? my dmg is low but i keep winning games this is very odd, its tier 10 I never win games at that tier? Am I finally learning to play or is it that the tanks are just that easy?

 

But i have forgotten how to play tier 8 and I'm shocking in them all. i don't think i have a single one above 45% I need to blame some external factor as is tradition on the forums!



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View PostSABAOTH, on 24 January 2019 - 12:00 AM, said:

 

I wonder if in reality shooting a hatch would do any harm to a tank or crew.

 

Somehow I doubt it. :child:

 

It's probably depends on the internal structure. I mean if you stay behind the observation window and a shell pen the armor and go through you body you will be killed instantly

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i think the shock-wave may injure or kill the crew, as well as splinters of the hatch and hinging mechanism....not an experiment I would like to take part in!

 

 

 

 



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View PostDiscontinued, on 24 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

All i can say is i love my T95, but it rarely burns but when it does its always surreal, Like getting shot in the tracks above the front wheel? i find Xmas cammo helps to stop burning so often it must be some flame retardant paint!

Still i think it could do with an auto loader just imagine the T95A :great:

 

The T95 and the T110E3 are my favourite stat padding tanks at the moment ;) 

 

if a noob like me can get 53% then i dread to think what a good player could do, in these two tanks i'd like any  tips or to see some impressive stats?

 

Am  i doing something right? my dmg is low but i keep winning games this is very odd, its tier 10 I never win games at that tier? Am I finally learning to play or is it that the tanks are just that easy?

 

But i have forgotten how to play tier 8 and I'm shocking in them all. i don't think i have a single one above 45% I need to blame some external factor as is tradition on the forums!

 

Your way better than me thats all you need to worry about, lol

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View PostSABAOTH, on 24 January 2019 - 12:00 AM, said:

 

I wonder if in reality shooting a hatch would do any harm to a tank or crew.

 

Somehow I doubt it. :child:

 

spalling damage, yes. In fact a lot of tank rounds used to rely on such things as a lot of tanks (mostly german and soviet) were made with high quality and hardened steel that was tough to punch holes through unlike the softer American steel that was designed to shock absorb (some good that did) to limit spall damage.  For example, the early t-34's were getting knocked out that did not include American lend-lease steel materials. They were still using more brittle Russian materials with the little resources they had.  Tanks were being knocked out not because of kill shots but because crew members were being mamed by shrapnel.  

 

The T-34s assembled with this defective armor arrived as equipment for units of 45th Brigade, 4th Tank Corps, in June 1942. They were brand-new tanks, just of the assembly line, still bearing factory paint.

 

The brittle-armored tanks of the brigade fought their first battle in the defense of Voronezh the month following their delivery. It was a fierce engagement with the enemy. Almost immediately the unit commander had begun to recieve radio messages with strange contents. Despite the failure of enemy shells to penetrate the T-34 tanks' armor, crew members were being wounded inside their turrets, primarily in the exposed areas of the body- the hands and arms, the face, and, in the case of some commander-gunners, the eyes.

 

"With the first lull in the battle, the Soviet troops began to investigate these mysterious wounds. It soon became clear to them that the steep slope angle of the t-34 turret's exterior surfaces was allowing enemy solid-shot rounds generally to ricochet when they struck that area. But when such a round did indeed hit the turret's outer wall, pieces of the tank's armor itself flew off the inner wall at extremely high velocities- a rate that seemed to vary according to the kinetic energy of round at the monemt of impact. In general, if the enemy round struck on the left side of the tank, the commander-gunner- whose crew position closest to the left inner wall of the turret- was being injured by the fragmenting armor of the vehicle wall. If the round hit on the right side, the armor spalling was striking the loader, whose crew position was on that side. The size of the fragments ranged from microscopic to several millimeters in diameter."

- "Fighting for the Soviet Motherland" by Dmitriy Loza, Nebraska Press.

 

So to answer your question, yep.


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