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Community #1 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:00 AM

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Time to trade-in your Premium vehicles for new ones.

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ugglan #2 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:09 AM

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Why would anyone trade in premium tanks when again you are not giving the full amount???? The reason why we have so many premiums is thanks to you wg. Either reduce the number by removing them and compensating the players in full or how about buff and nerf the billions of premium tanks in the game. When i started way back in 2011 there were maybe 10 or 12 now there is so many that it is getting to the point of ridicule. And i say it again YOU ARE GIVING US LESS GOLD that is not a "TRADE IN" that is robbery.

So why do you think they are doing this trade in, and not the first time ill tell you. They don't want to spend time fixing the game, they don't want to spend time balanceing out the tanks so what they do is they let them fall so low and get so bad that nobody wants to play them. 

They let the powercreep succeed, and with no buff to the tanks players will start to look desperate, and here come WG the savior to give you the trade in for 50 % to the tank they left in the dirt. So insted of balancing the game they do this until players dont see a reason to play with tanks that are to obsolete to do any kind of good and are boring to play with. They have been doing this for YEARS. You would know this if you actually played the game. 

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Soup_Potato #3 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:22 AM

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View Postugglan, on 24 January 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Why would anyone trade in premium tanks when again you are not giving the full amount????

 

Why is it still so hard to understand that the real world doesn't work like you want it to. If you are not interested in trading in your tanks, you hold them in some value. If you on the other hand are willing to trade in your tank, you hold it in low value. Why on earth would WG or anyone want to give you full price back on something you hold in no value. The whole point of the trade in is to let people trade in tanks that they don't like or want anymore. They give you fair price, 50% compensation for it. You can now start listing companies that offer better price than 50% of the crap you don't want anymore.

 

This is just utterly ridiculous that people demand full compensation for premiums. You have already benefited from the vehicles hugely in crew training and credits... Now you want your money back but you want to keep the benefits you reaped over time... What sort of a bubble you have lived in to think that is something to demand?



CrazyLovex #4 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:22 AM

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..l dont see where the trade-inn option is in-game??

DeltaOneFive #5 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:30 AM

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View PostCrazyLovex, on 24 January 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

..l dont see where the trade-inn option is in-game??

 

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ugglan #6 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:36 AM

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View PostSoup_Potato, on 24 January 2019 - 05:22 AM, said:

This is just utterly ridiculous that people demand full compensation for premiums. You have already benefited from the vehicles hugely in crew training and credits... Now you want your money back but you want to keep the benefits you reaped over time... What sort of a bubble you have lived in to think that is something to demand?

Because we are doing them a favor, they are not doing this out of their love for the players or the love for the game. They are doing it for their own profit, then why would we the players settle for anything but the best? The reasoning why they do this is clear but how people still can fall for the narativ that in some way the players are the greedy one are just absurd. We made and make this game what it is not wg. 

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Soup_Potato been a member for 4 months played 282 battles over 289 posts what is up with that? and why are many of your posts you defending wg? Is your bank account filled with gold from WG?

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Supreme_King_997 #7 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:48 AM

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View Postugglan, on 24 January 2019 - 06:36 AM, said:

 

Because we are doing them a favor, they are not doing this out of their love for the players or the love for the game. They are doing it for their own profit, then why would we the players settle for anything but the best? The reasoning why they do this is clear but how people still can fall for the narativ that in some way the players are the greedy one are just absurd. We made and make this game what it is not wg. 

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Soup_Potato been a member for 4 months played 282 battles over 289 posts what is up with that? and why are many of your posts you defending wg? Is your bank account filled with gold from WG?

 

You have a point there, to certain point. But this sentence "We made and make this game what it is not wg" doesen't make sense whatsoever.

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Soup_Potato #9 Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:52 AM

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View Postugglan, on 24 January 2019 - 06:36 AM, said:

Because we are doing them a favor, they are not doing this out of their love for the players or the love for the game. They are doing it for their own profit, then why would we the players settle for anything but the best? The reasoning why they do this is clear but how people still can fall for the narativ that in some way the players are the greedy one are just absurd. We made and make this game what it is not wg. 

 

If you already know that this is how the world works, that you won't get full compensation for your purchased used goods, especially ones that you hold to no value at all. Then why are you calling it theft (robbery) that WG give a 50% compensation? If you aren't just another hypocrite I expect you to start doing the same thing to every other company in the world, calling them thieves and whatnot for not giving you all the money back when you return used goods. Do you call Steam thieves for not giving back all your money for a game you already completed?
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View Postugglan, on 24 January 2019 - 06:36 AM, said:

Soup_Potato been a member for 4 months played 282 battles over 289 posts what is up with that? and why are many of your posts you defending wg? Is your bank account filled with gold from WG?

 

Nice argument there. :child:


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ugglan #10 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:01 AM

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View PostSupreme_King_997, on 24 January 2019 - 05:48 AM, said:

 

You have a point there, to certain point. But this sentence "We made and make this game what it is not wg" doesen't make sense whatsoever.

 

What i mean is that we the players made this game famous and profitable and we are continuing to let wg get away with stuff all the time.  
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View PostSoup_Potato, on 24 January 2019 - 05:52 AM, said:

Nice argument there. :child:

So why do you think they are doing this trade in, and not the first time ill tell you. They don't want to spend time fixing the game, they don't want to spend time balanceing out the tanks so what they do is they let them fall so low and get so bad that nobody wants to play them. 

They let the powercreep succeed, and with no buff to the tanks players will start to look desperate, and here come WG the savior to give you the trade in for 50 % to the tank they left in the dirt. So insted of balancing the game they do this until players dont see a reason to play with tanks that are to obsolete to do any kind of good and are boring to play with. They have been doing this for YEARS. You would know this if you actually played the game. 



Sushil #11 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:12 AM

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I would not call it theft / robbery on WG part because they are still offering 50% value back which also happens in the real world. If you sell your car after using for few years you don't expect 100% value back from the purchaser. You always settle for some percentage of your original invested value. Though I would like WG to offer 70% of the gold because these are virtual goods and do not degrade with course of time like the real world things do :P

ZeroCommaZero #12 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:15 AM

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View Postugglan, on 24 January 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

They let the powercreep succeed, and with no buff to the tanks players will start to look desperate, and here come WG the savior to give you the trade in for 50 % to the tank they left in the dirt. So insted of balancing the game they do this until players dont see a reason to play with tanks that are to obsolete to do any kind of good and are boring to play with. They have been doing this for YEARS. You would know this if you actually played the game. 

 

I traded in JGP8.8 and Super Pershing. BOTH were massively buffed later. 



Deadoks #13 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:15 AM

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View PostSoup_Potato, on 24 January 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

 

This is just utterly ridiculous that people demand full compensation for premiums. You have already benefited from the vehicles hugely in crew training and credits... Now you want your money back but you want to keep the benefits you reaped over time... What sort of a bubble you have lived in to think that is something to demand?

 

This is just utterly ridiculous that WG (or people that can't handle their opinion) has to hide behind fake account to defend their utterly ridiculous offers and make us think that some people are utterly damaged enough to find this interesting and fair. This is not because we live in a business world driven by money that we have to just swallow all offers from any companies saying it's business.

 

So MY opinion is, the only way I would change is for full price, and only if they put interesting tanks in the right column (not only the old crappy one).

And so I'll never do any trade as this is not what I search AND the offer proposed is definitely not interesting.



Yaccay #14 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:17 AM

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Dear WG!

You forgot to add Defender and IS-3A to the list of buyable tanks.

I can not imagine why.

:girl:

 



Soup_Potato #15 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:19 AM

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View PostSushil, on 24 January 2019 - 07:12 AM, said:

Though I would like WG to offer 70% of the gold because these are virtual goods and do not degrade with course of time like the real world things do :P


Yes, of course you would ''like to'' get that but I would expect you understand that it's not how it works. A player has gotten the benefits from a premium tank and you can compare that to completing a game. Steam or anyone else will not give you 70% or even 50% for your games. We could easily define that virtual goods have 0% value for the original seller after they have been purchased. Of course to lower the amount of buyers regret, WG should offer more rental options or build a testing mode for premiums (and tech three tanks). There is of course the CT servers, but those don't include all premium vehicles. So far the December rentals were a nice improvement and I would bet many found out how the tanks, they were interested in, behave. I wish that is renewed somewhat soon, but instead of 7 days, make it 10 or 20 battles.



Deadoks #16 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:21 AM

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View PostSushil, on 24 January 2019 - 07:12 AM, said:

I would not call it theft / robbery on WG part because they are still offering 50% value back which also happens in the real world. If you sell your car after using for few years you don't expect 100% value back from the purchaser. You always settle for some percentage of your original invested value. Though I would like WG to offer 70% of the gold because these are virtual goods and do not degrade with course of time like the real world things do :P

 

But, some car get value with the time.

Would you trade in your Mustang Shelbi GT500 1967 for a BMW Serie 3 ? 

Would you trade in your Type-59 for an IS-6 ? Even if they gave you full price gold? :-D

 

And again you're not forced to trade-in... But you can say you don't like the offer.



Soup_Potato #17 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:24 AM

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View PostDeadoks, on 24 January 2019 - 07:15 AM, said:

 

This is just utterly ridiculous that WG (or people that can't handle their opinion) has to hide behind fake account to defend their utterly ridiculous offers and make us think that some people are utterly damaged enough to find this interesting and fair. This is not because we live in a business world driven by money that we have to just swallow all offers from any companies saying it's business.

 

So MY opinion is, the only way I would change is for full price, and only if they put interesting tanks in the right column (not only the old crappy one).

And so I'll never do any trade as this is not what I search AND the offer proposed is definitely not interesting.

 

Oh another one of you... How is this not a real account? And why do you take that route to counter what I said?

 

You are free to not take part in the trade-in. You have to quite special though to demand full compensation for your purchased goods. Do you understand that you have already reaped all the benefits and you hold some of your premiums to no value. Tell me anyone in this world who would give you your money back at that point? Would you give someone their money back after they bought something from you and used it for a period of time? Effectively you would be just lending it to them, for free. If you aren't taking part, then have fun staring at your premiums you don't like to play anymore. :D



badidos651 #18 Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:25 AM

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I want to trade in the russian scorpio (the marathon one) whatever it is called (russian scorpio it is not, it was fake advertising by WG) for the progetto (the one from the marathon). The only reason I didn't grind CAX or progetto was because the pilot 1 was such a humongous piece of crap it made me feel disgusted. Then I grind for the so called 'russian scorpio' and get shafted again. Yawn. Bad luck sure, but why not make the progetto available? I don't see the reason.

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View PostSoup_Potato, on 24 January 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

 

. The whole point of the trade in is to let people trade in tanks that they don't like or want anymore. They give you fair price, 50% compensation for it.

 

 

Relly?

for example i don't like my T-44-100

And the premium Valentine

And...which benefits frompremium tanks?

I have bought only 1, the T34, after some months WG released the Patriot, Liberte, Defender....and my premium tank is almost useless

I train my crew better in T1 Heavy



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View PostSushil, on 24 January 2019 - 07:12 AM, said:

I would not call it theft / robbery on WG part because they are still offering 50% value back which also happens in the real world. If you sell your car after using for few years you don't expect 100% value back from the purchaser. You always settle for some percentage of your original invested value. Though I would like WG to offer 70% of the gold because these are virtual goods and do not degrade with course of time like the real world things do :P

 

Exactly. The sold pixels do not wear down. Or became obsolete. (Unless WG makes them obsolete, aka power creep... but then we may talk about scam   ...)

 

Plus WG actually do not buys back the sold tank, only exchange to another pixel tank. (Which tank at - least in theory - not better than the old one because of the perfectly balanced tanks. )

 

So exchange the old tank for the half pirce is a shameless robbery.






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