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BR33K1_PAWAH #1 Posted 24 January 2019 - 09:59 AM

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Why is it so hard to get them?  :(

 

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It's normal for me to two MoE any tier 8 vehicle, but turn's out that 1.4k for tier 8 arty isn't that much. Also currently trying to do T55 SPG15 with honors so i can get my orders back, but to no avail :(

 

What one average player like me can do to get better at clicking?



Homer_J #2 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:21 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 24 January 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:

Also currently trying to do T55 SPG15 with honors so i can get my orders back, but to no avail :(

 

What one average player like me can do to get better at clicking?

 

What arty are you trying to do it with?

 

I did it a little while ago with honours by accident while trying to do the X damage in the first 3 mins mission for the Excelsior, unfortunately I don't think the replay will work on the current version.

 

My tip is to play in the early hours of the morning but you need a very specific combination of factors.  In my battle the fact that our JP E100 decided not to take part helped me get the damage done.  If he had been stealing it from me I wouldn't have got close.  Getting the damage or assist alone isn't difficult it's combining the two and getting a win.

 

Still only have 1 gun mark though.


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I only have 2 MoE on 1 arty, the Crusader SP.....Been trying to 2 mark the tier 8 Lorr, came close a few times but didn't succeed yet.

 

And for the SPG mission, I think I did that in the American tier 8 or tier 9.



BR33K1_PAWAH #4 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:33 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 24 January 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

What arty are you trying to do it with?

 

In SU 14-2. If i fail completely then will try on 212 once i get it.

 

View PostHomer_J, on 24 January 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

My tip is to play in the early hours of the morning

 

 

Yep, i try to abuse low server pop too))



xtrem3x #5 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:34 AM

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I have 2 marks on my Conqueror Gun Carriage :trollface:

One of my games I managed 8.5k damage :trollface:



Homer_J #6 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:45 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 24 January 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

 

In SU 14-2. If i fail completely then will try on 212 once i get it.

 

I think the M53/55 is the only one that can do it.  Certainly the tier 9 British arty is nowhere near.  But I played the Russian line long before the changes so apart from the tier 6 which I revived for missions I don't know how they are now, I remember them as painfully slow, no gun arc but at least they did a lot of damage per shot.  Obj261 is a failure these days, totally rubbish, and none of the French can do damage relative to their tier above about tier 7.

 

You would think an all tier X battle would help but then you have 14 tier X guns stealing your damage.



Jumping_Turtle #7 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:45 AM

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I have played a lot of arty back in the days and indeex the moe are kinda hard to get. Only managed to 3 mark the Grille and 2 mark the 304.

Got a lot of 1 marks though but some are just impossible for me.



FrantisekBascovansky #8 Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:50 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 24 January 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

Why is it so hard to get them?  :(

 

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It's normal for me to two MoE any tier 8 vehicle, but turn's out that 1.4k for tier 8 arty isn't that much. Also currently trying to do T55 SPG15 with honors so i can get my orders back, but to no avail :(

 

What one average player like me can do to get better at clicking?

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 



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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 24 January 2019 - 09:45 AM, said:

I have played a lot of arty back in the days and indeex the moe are kinda hard to get. Only managed to 3 mark the Grille and 2 mark the 304.

Got a lot of 1 marks though but some are just impossible for me.
 

 

CNUT is a really good name for a clan.

If ever I create a clan in the future I'm going to steal your clan name 



BR33K1_PAWAH #10 Posted 24 January 2019 - 11:09 AM

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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 24 January 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 

 

Well, it's definitely not harder than any other vehicle class, but it's almost impossible to 3 MoE them. And i don't understand why.
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View PostHomer_J, on 24 January 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

 

I think the M53/55 is the only one that can do it.  Certainly the tier 9 British arty is nowhere near.  But I played the Russian line long before the changes so apart from the tier 6 which I revived for missions I don't know how they are now, I remember them as painfully slow, no gun arc but at least they did a lot of damage per shot.  Obj261 is a failure these days, totally rubbish, and none of the French can do damage relative to their tier above about tier 7.

 

You would think an all tier X battle would help but then you have 14 tier X guns stealing your damage.

 

In Soviet Russia tier 8 and 9 artys are good, tier 7 should have been sent to gulag though.

 

Also i still need those high caliber guns to do a lot of assist on my stuns:

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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 24 January 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 

Seeing as first moe is better than 65% of all players, yeah,  most arty players, can't get moe.

Same for all tanks



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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 24 January 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 

 

If that was the case, then getting a 3rd MOE should be easy for better players, and yet it's not.

TankkiPoju #13 Posted 24 January 2019 - 11:20 AM

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It's because arty is so hard to play.
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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 24 January 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 

 

Well, you seem to be an expert though. Is playing M44 harder than seal clubbing in that tier 3 tank you have 6750 battles in?

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Mav75 #14 Posted 24 January 2019 - 11:40 AM

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They’re damn hard to get. I only have two on the FV304 and it’s currently around 83%. 

Those that have one hover around 70% (except leFH at around 65%).

Have to check where the M40/M43 is after my latest Gore’s Medal.

The M40/43 can do the SPG15 when stars align.



Sirebellus #15 Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:00 PM

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You need to get lucky... with map rotation and teams

 

I mean a game on Himmelsdorf followed by one on Paris followed by Ensk and you can end up only doing 500 damage per game and your MOE progress drops dramatically...

 

And then you get a good arty map like Prokorovka or Malinovka and you get a crap team that gets roflstomped 15-2 in 3 minutes (doesn't matter if you're on the win or lose side you still have no chance to do much damage)


 



TheDrownedApe #16 Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:12 PM

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I've been trying to get my 3rd on the M53 but can't seem to break the 92% barrier (averaged 2200ish damage but not sure on the assisted). As others have said, it's all about map rotation and teams - but then you could say that for every class. Perhaps we just aren't good enough :(

SuperOlsson #17 Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:32 PM

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It's hard because of how the marks are calculated, if you do exactly the same amount of damage as the average for the past 2 weeks, you will end up with 50% MoE and no mark. To reach 100%, you need to do twice as much damage as the average. In order to get the third mark, you have to do 1.9 as much as the average.

Now given that arty has such a low skill threshhold to be useful makes it much harder to do 1.9 times as much as the average for the past two weeks compared to tanks.

(And with damage I mean combined damage+max(spotting dmg,tracking dmg) )

FrantisekBascovansky #18 Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:25 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 24 January 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

It's because arty is so hard to play.
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Well, you seem to be an expert though. Is playing M44 harder than seal clubbing in that tier 3 tank you have 6750 battles in?

 

When there's really nothing else to say, playing statshaming card is the last resort for typical compulsive whiner. Is this some kind of defence mechanism?

But OK, let's play it you way - you have 0 (zero, nada) battles in SPG. Dude, you didn't even tried it. How would you know if it's easy or not.



VeryRisky #19 Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:26 PM

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Hmm: 

0* M41, 41.47%, I played in through before MoE, never liked it.   It's better since the splash patch, could do it, but I prefer the M44

1* M44, 83.83%, bouncing around between 80% and 84.99999999999% for a while.   You need a pretty good game to get the figures up.

1* M12, 61.63%, play this occasionally

1* M40/M43, 65.55%, and this a bit more as the crew just got onto 3rd skill

1* M53/M55 1* now 58.25%, I've fallen back for a while now.

0* T92 HMC 46.34%, I can't play this effectively, 32 wins from 79 is far more worrying than the MoE.

 

 

But I'm not waiting for max damage shots, I fire a lot at what ever I see, will take low % shots at moving stuff and thing that have gone unspotted when I need to so I'm not getting a high average damage but decent assist.


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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 24 January 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

Why is it so hard to get them?  :(

 

shot_039.jpg shot_038.jpg

 

It's normal for me to two MoE any tier 8 vehicle, but turn's out that 1.4k for tier 8 arty isn't that much. Also currently trying to do T55 SPG15 with honors so i can get my orders back, but to no avail :(

 

What one average player like me can do to get better at clicking?

 

It's because with that slow RoF you have only few shots / round, so everybody will pretty much do similar levels of damages if they just know where to aim.

 

View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 24 January 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

Because you know, SPGs are so easy to play. No skill needed. Ask any whiner. Most of them cant even do 1st MoE in SPG.

 

 

That's exactly what you would expect for a low skill cap tank, or even better for a broken class where skill is not very influential: everyone can perform pretty much the same. :coin:




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