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k0eff #1 Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:40 PM

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Hi all,

Campaigns needs an improvement. 

There is progress acceleration that states: complete the second condition to earn a 2 increase in the current progress.

For example in mission Bloc-12 easy cooking. 

Destroy all vehicles / capture or defend the base is the secondary. What happen if you complete first. 

Then destroy 2 enemy vehicles during the first 4 minutes of the battle should be: destroy 1 vehicle in 4 min OR destroy 2 for 8 minutes?

Actually there is no acceleration. 

Change should be applied to show you exactly how rule has been changed when you complete the second part.

Someone with me?

 

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Nokkeli #2 Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:46 PM

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I see nothing unclear about this :unsure:

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:50 PM

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If you complete the secondary objective before the primary then you still only get the x2 bonus when you complete the primary AND the secondary at the same time the next game. For example if the primary mission was do 2000 damage and the secondary was 'survive' 5 times and you had survived 5 battles already you would not get a double completion for doing 3000 damage if you also die.

 

Pretty sure when they say kill 2 tanks in 4 minutes they mean exactly that, not you have 4 mins per tank.



Nokkeli #4 Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:54 PM

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It's called secondary for a reason, you do it after the primary. How could it be mission done if you fail the primary mission? I don't know whats so hard about that.

k0eff #5 Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:01 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 25 January 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

Pretty sure when they say kill 2 tanks in 4 minutes they mean exactly that, not you have 4 mins per tank.

I understand the logic but why message for the acceleration is still present in that condition? In that case shouldn't appear at all! 

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View PostNokkeli, on 25 January 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

It's called secondary for a reason, you do it after the primary. How could it be mission done if you fail the primary mission? I don't know whats so hard about that.

 

You can complete secondary before primary in Second Front campaign.

Nokkeli #6 Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:07 PM

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View Postk0eff, on 25 January 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

 

You can complete secondary before primary in Second Front campaign.

 

Yes, but unless you complete the primary condition the mission will never be complete. I really don't understand what you are going on about.



k0eff #7 Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:22 PM

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View PostNokkeli, on 25 January 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

 

Yes, but unless you complete the primary condition the mission will never be complete. I really don't understand what you are going on about.

 

check the screenshot

Note: "complete the second condition to earn a 2 increase in the current progress."

But actually, you wont receive any acceleration in current example. And many others. In that case shouldn't appear or there should be acceleration applied. 

And if acceleration is applied, what is it for. 

For example: make 20000 dmg is clear that the rest to complete first condition should be at half. But for the others?



k0eff #8 Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:35 PM

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Another example: Bloc-13

When I complete second condition there is still statement that I'll receive 2 increase in current progress.

But how: 

1. will double the damage that cause in battle and then apply against top 3 rule.

2. will count 1 victory in top 3 as two. 

Is it something applied at all?

 

 

 

 

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Nokkeli #9 Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:37 PM

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I have no idea what you are writing so i assume you have difficulty reading English. So let's take your picture as an example. If you want to get one completion you need to kill 2 tanks in a battle during the 4 first minutes. Okay? If you win, then you will satisfy the criteria for the secondary objective and you will get bloc-12 completed 2 times instead of 1. And remember you can keep completing the secondary objectives if you still have primary objectives. You just need to complete the secondary the given amount of times if you want the entire mission complete with honors.

k0eff #10 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

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View PostNokkeli, on 25 January 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

I have no idea what you are writing so i assume you have difficulty reading English. So let's take your picture as an example. If you want to get one completion you need to kill 2 tanks in a battle during the 4 first minutes. Okay? If you win, then you will satisfy the criteria for the secondary objective and you will get bloc-12 completed 2 times instead of 1. And remember you can keep completing the secondary objectives if you still have primary objectives. You just need to complete the secondary the given amount of times if you want the entire mission complete with honors.

 

Sound reasonable. If complete second condition first. And then you're working only on first, if fail on second - get x1, but if you fulfill second /doesn't matter is already completed/ you'll get 2. Correct?



Homer_J #11 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:21 PM

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View Postk0eff, on 25 January 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

 

Destroy all vehicles / capture or defend the base is the secondary. What happen if you complete first. 

Then destroy 2 enemy vehicles during the first 4 minutes of the battle should be: destroy 1 vehicle in 4 min OR destroy 2 for 8 minutes?

Actually there is no acceleration. 

 

 

 

The primary condition is to destroy 2 vehicles in the first four minutes.

 

The secondary is to win.

 

To complete the mission you need to complete the primary 5 times.

 

If you complete the secondary in the same battle as the primary then it counts as completing the primary twice.  That is the acceleration.

 

To complete the whole mission with honours then you have to have completed the secondary five times as well as have 5 completions on the primary.


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k0eff #12 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:48 PM

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Yes thanks, now sound more reasonable.

To summarize: You have to complete second, then when satisfy 1st and 2nd you'll get acceleration on first. 



Dava_117 #13 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:52 PM

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View Postk0eff, on 25 January 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:

Hi all,

Campaigns needs an improvement. 

There is progress acceleration that states: complete the second condition to earn a 2 increase in the current progress.

For example in mission Bloc-12 easy cooking. 

Destroy all vehicles / capture or defend the base is the secondary. What happen if you complete first. 

Then destroy 2 enemy vehicles during the first 4 minutes of the battle should be: destroy 1 vehicle in 4 min OR destroy 2 for 8 minutes?

Actually there is no acceleration. 

Change should be applied to show you exactly how rule has been changed when you complete the second part.

Someone with me?

 

 

To get the full reward of a mission you need to complete the primary and secondary condition the required ammount of time.

If you complete the secondary condition and the primary in the same game, you get a x2 multiplier on the first condition in the following way:

-If the primary condition require to do something in x games, the game in wich both condition are fullfilled will worth as 2 games

-If the primary condition require a total ammount of something (in example do 15k damage to MTs) completing the secondary condition will multiply by to the progress on the primary one (in our exmple if you did 1000HP of damage on MTs you will get an increase on the primary requirements of 2k HP).

 

Completing all the secondary condition before the main one gives you the mission rewards but don't prevents you to complete it more to get the x2 bonus.

 

In your case, winning and destroying 2 enemies in the fist 4 minutes will give you 2 points for the primary condition and one for the secondary.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:52 PM

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View Postk0eff, on 25 January 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

Another example: Bloc-13

When I complete second condition there is still statement that I'll receive 2 increase in current progress.

But how: 

1. will double the damage that cause in battle and then apply against top 3 rule.

2. will count 1 victory in top 3 as two. 

Is it something applied at all?

 

 

For Bloc-13, you get the x2 for the primary if you complete the primary mission (top 3 on xp) AND complete the secondary AT THE SAME TIME.

 

If you have completed all secondary (survived 5 times) you can still get x2 on the primary if you have some left to get but you must still complete both conditions in one battle at the same time for it to trigger. 



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Thanks all guys :)  






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