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DracheimFlug #41 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:04 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 28 January 2019 - 09:15 AM, said:

 

Sure that makes sense, but like already said... WoT is a fantasy game. It's hardly realistic anyway. Otherwise why would light tanks be spotting for super heavies in the first place. Or arties shooting single tanks.

 

Also, tanks like Obj430U and Obj140 etc are quite flat so they have very good stationary camo in WoT - but still have 400m view range. Maybe some WoT balance expert can explain why Obj430U has 36.5% stationary camo with a camo crew :)

 

 

People are likely thinking incorrectly about the camo on such tanks. They are likely so good and ahistorical that tank crews have trouble believing that they exist at all and write seeing them off as battle fatigue. :hiding:

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 28 January 2019 - 12:46 AM, said:

 

you might want to correct the Wikipedia article then:

https://en.wikipedia...hina#Type_69/79

 

I think you're confusing it with their designation being WZ-121.



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 28 January 2019 - 12:29 PM, said:

I think you're confusing it with their designation being WZ-121.

 

the 121 and WZ-121 are the same tank.

the 121 from wot is named WZ-121 in wot blitz.



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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 28 January 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

the 121 and WZ-121 are the same tank.

As I said before, they are not. The WG name is likely something they made up themselves, it has nothing to do with the WZ-121.

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 28 January 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

the 121 and WZ-121 are the same tank.

the 121 from wot is named WZ-121 in wot blitz.

View PostFluffyRedFox, on 28 January 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

As I said before, they are not. The WG name is likely something they made up themselves, it has nothing to do with the WZ-121.

Floofs has a point; the WZ-121/Type 69 has a 100mm cannon (smoothbore on model I, rifled on model II, and 105mm L7 based rifled on model III).

A Bangladeshi version has a 120mm smoothbore.

But the 121 in WoT has a 122mm rifled.

 

And lets be fair, it wouldn't be the only fake tank in the China Tree (far from even).



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 28 January 2019 - 05:29 PM, said:

Floofs has a point; the WZ-121/Type 69 has a 100mm cannon (smoothbore on model I, rifled on model II, and 105mm L7 based rifled on model III).

A Bangladeshi version has a 120mm smoothbore.

But the 121 in WoT has a 122mm rifled.

 

And lets be fair, it wouldn't be the only fake tank in the China Tree (far from even).

They also differ quite a bit in platform. Type 69 is still basically a modified T-54, however if you look at 121 there's a few differences -

- No turret bulge on the hull as the hull extends over the roadwheels partly

- The hull lined with storage bins

- Elongated hull, a gap between the 3rd and 4th roadwheel in addition to the usual gap between the 1st and 2nd.

The Type 69 doesn't have any of these features.



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 28 January 2019 - 06:29 PM, said:

Floofs has a point; the WZ-121/Type 69 has a 100mm cannon (smoothbore on model I, rifled on model II, and 105mm L7 based rifled on model III).

A Bangladeshi version has a 120mm smoothbore.

But the 121 in WoT has a 122mm rifled.

 

And lets be fair, it wouldn't be the only fake tank in the China Tree (far from even).

 

View PostFluffyRedFox, on 28 January 2019 - 06:44 PM, said:

They also differ quite a bit in platform. Type 69 is still basically a modified T-54, however if you look at 121 there's a few differences -

- No turret bulge on the hull as the hull extends over the roadwheels partly

- The hull lined with storage bins

- Elongated hull, a gap between the 3rd and 4th roadwheel in addition to the usual gap between the 1st and 2nd.

The Type 69 doesn't have any of these features.

 

Type 69, 121 and WZ-121 are high-level designations that cover several different versions. apparently, the Chinese updated the type 69 by changing much more than just the gun. I believe they changed the hull as well, while still retaining the type 69 name.

at least, that's how I understand the wiki articles.


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 28 January 2019 - 07:02 PM.





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