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Axelfoley666 #1 Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:50 PM

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Can someone explain how they work/happen/occur? What is the mechanic, if any? Is it a mix of RNG and MM. Are they just totally random and if so why the streak? Is the RNG/MM triggered some how? Does a player have to lose so many before a win streak starts or vice versa? Does RNG/MM group a bunch of players together to be in a win/lose grouping? Do the RNG/MM dice roll before each single battle?

 

Just confused and frustrated at how you can go from 78% winrate 1 day to 33% win rate the next day. 



LordMuffin #2 Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:54 PM

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What is common is that if a player loses, he/she might become frustrated which leads to worse decisions and worse play. This can further decrease a players ability in a battle. Another loss might reinforce this and so on.
It is commonly known as tilting.

Another aspect is that the skill distribution between teams are random. This means that streaks in which team, have on average, the better players will happen and it will happen with some frequency.

In only 20 battles, a streak of 4 where one team is having on average better players then the other team is above 50% I believe (excluding the player himself).

Assuming that it is a 50/50 chance to get better/worse team mates.


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I don't think It's random as it claims to be. It's more 50% rigged in a way that you won't notice.

 

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kaneloon #4 Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:56 PM

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I would say it depends of : were you top xp each time ?

If not it is probably not a day to play. You are not aware of being underperforming.

If you were good, sometimes changing server or taking a break helps and closing the game 20 minutes helps.



Axelfoley666 #5 Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:58 PM

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Personally, losing streaks actually make me want to play more. The challenge, breaking the streak or getting the win. I tend to actually play better, think more and not be as bold. I tend to be a very aggressive player. Win streaks get boring fast but balanced gameplay is more fun.

Homer_J #6 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:02 PM

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

Can someone explain how they work/happen/occur? What is the mechanic, if any?

It's just because you get random teams, that's all.

 

Just like with any dice game you can throw double six five times in a row or you can get runs of low numbers.



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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

Is it a mix of RNG and MM. Are they just totally random and if so why the streak?

^^That's it, just there.

Mix that up with a player's skill/ability....bad players get longer losing streaks more often, good players get fewer losing streaks and less often.

It's random, (unless your playing CW) you don't play with the same team again with the same tanks, guns, crews or load out, nor do you face the same enemy in every battle.



Axelfoley666 #8 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:10 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 27 January 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

It's just because you get random teams, that's all.

 

Just like with any dice game you can throw double six five times in a row or you can get runs of low numbers.

 

So, Unicum and super Unicum are so good they can alter this and beat the odds. Which would explain why there are so few or do they incur the wrath of RNG/MM also? 

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

Can someone explain how they work/happen/occur? What is the mechanic, if any? Is it a mix of RNG and MM. Are they just totally random and if so why the streak? Is the RNG/MM triggered some how? Does a player have to lose so many before a win streak starts or vice versa? Does RNG/MM group a bunch of players together to be in a win/lose grouping? Do the RNG/MM dice roll before each single battle?

 

Just confused and frustrated at how you can go from 78% winrate 1 day to 33% win rate the next day. 

 

Just convert more xp for gold, and dont whine on forum and you be OK

Axelfoley666 #10 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

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View PostPayMore, on 27 January 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

Just convert more xp for gold, and dont whine on forum and you be OK

 

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Homer_J #11 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:16 PM

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:10 PM, said:

 

So, Unicum and super Unicum are so good they can alter this and beat the odds. Which would explain why there are so few or do they incur the wrath of RNG/MM also? 

 

There's a small number of battles where doing just the right thing at the right time can be the difference between win and lose but even super dooper unicorns can only push their win rate up so far solo.  Platooning with other good/great players can push it a bit higher but there are limits, especially with 3/5/7 matchmaking putting 3 man platoons down the pile all the time.

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

Can someone explain how they work/happen/occur? What is the mechanic, if any? Is it a mix of RNG and MM. Are they just totally random and if so why the streak? Is the RNG/MM triggered some how? Does a player have to lose so many before a win streak starts or vice versa? Does RNG/MM group a bunch of players together to be in a win/lose grouping? Do the RNG/MM dice roll before each single battle?

 

Just confused and frustrated at how you can go from 78% winrate 1 day to 33% win rate the next day. 

 

Yes, win and lost is pre-programmed. Combined with RNG and bad players or begginers and who team shooting more premium ammo. 

One day you win and next day u lost like gambling. 

 

Solution is: dont play next day same tanks. Play one day heavy tanks, next day light tanks.



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A lot of these arguments would suggest that, apart from ultra skilled players, skill plays a small part in the final outcome of a battle. It can sway it but ultimately the battle result is decided as soon as you click "Battle". Right or wrong?

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

A lot of these arguments would suggest that, apart from ultra skilled players, skill plays a small part in the final outcome of a battle. It can sway it but ultimately the battle result is decided as soon as you click "Battle". Right or wrong?

When I did use XVM, I've seen very good XVM teams just run into the guns of a very weak team and lose, believing that the weak team couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. 



Homer_J #15 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:36 PM

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

A lot of these arguments would suggest that, apart from ultra skilled players, skill plays a small part in the final outcome of a battle. It can sway it but ultimately the battle result is decided as soon as you click "Battle". Right or wrong?

 

"Decided" in only the very loosest definition of the word.

 

There is no conscious decision and there is no driving force behind the decision.  It's more like the way your chances of winning at poker are decided by the cards given to you by the dealer than the colour of your eyes is decided by your parent's genes.



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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

Can someone explain how they work/happen/occur? What is the mechanic, if any?

 

This

 



Axelfoley666 #17 Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:38 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 27 January 2019 - 05:31 PM, said:

When I did use XVM, I've seen very good XVM teams just run into the guns of a very weak team and lose, believing that the weak team couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. 

 

That's human error, I am trying to understand the game mechanic. XVM can be fooled by the amount of re-rolls these day or alt accounts.

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but there's no win streak! only if you pay for it.

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View PostAxelfoley666, on 27 January 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

 

That's human error, I am trying to understand the game mechanic. XVM can be fooled by the amount of re-rolls these day or alt accounts.

But isn't that the point....losses are governed by human behavior, which in itself is a random mechanic.



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I personally feel my WR/WN8 differs greatly depending on the amount of 3 arty games that cripple active play :unsure:




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