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STRAPATONI #1 Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:03 AM

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so? what is the useless mission we think can help us get at least the EXCALIBUR?

useless because there is no point to try block, if the battle full with special HE , HESH, prem ammo.

not in case they make the japanies and germans the blocking  for 2 time the hit points,  there we have 2 godzilas ,MAUS & TYPE 5

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

every mission can be made if its depends in gameplay, 6k damage , 7 kills, 6k spotting and more, but block system just dosnt work.

if its not the blocking mission , what it is for you?



Jumping_Turtle #2 Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:10 AM

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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 28 January 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

 

Easy peasy mission with the right tank.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:46 AM

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This is actually a very good thread if it provides some decent feedback to the developers about the format and the mission requirements of the new campaign.

 

  • I really don't like the new format of coalition, union, bloc and alliance. I prefer the 1st campaign format based on tank class. If i don't want to play or grind a specific line, i shouldn't be forced to just to complete a couple of missions.
  • Damage blocking missions are conducive to bad game play so are base capturing missions. The RNG and retarded game play involved in those really puts me off.
  • Causing a certain amount of damage in a specific time from the battle start is also conducive to bad game play. People just rush, do a couple of shots and then die because "mission"!
  • I understand that WG is gradually nerfing the requirements based on the feedback they receive, also they're gradually buffing the reward tanks so what's the point of completing those missions now when they'll become easier a few months later with a better reward?
  • One common problem with the 1st campaign is the targeting of specific classes (lights, TDs, etc.). This is just painful for the player and the enemy!


Homer_J #4 Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:58 AM

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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 28 January 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

 

not in case they make the japanies and germans the blocking  for 2 time the hit points,  there we have 2 godzilas ,MAUS & TYPE 5

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

 

I've done both in the last few weeks matey.  If you can't then you need to start thinking about it a bit more.

 

No point taking Maus which needs to block 6k and meets tier X TDs which can go through it with regular ammo, use O-I which needs less than 2k and meets lots of guns which can't damage it from the front.

 

For Russian take the SU-100M1 and play it like a heavy.  Survive once and you only need to do it one more time since there's a 3x multiplier on the secondary.

 

Easy peasy.



xtrem3x #5 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:07 AM

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Blocked over 7k damage in my KV-5 the other day by driving into the middle of an open field in a tier 6 game.

Blocking missions maybe bad for gameplay (to some extent) but they are really not difficult...



Jumping_Turtle #6 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:18 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 28 January 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:

 If i don't want to play or grind a specific line, i shouldn't be forced to just to complete a couple of missions.

 

Nobody is forcing you to do anything of course.



Dava_117 #7 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:24 AM

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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 28 January 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

so? what is the useless mission we think can help us get at least the EXCALIBUR?

useless because there is no point to try block, if the battle full with special HE , HESH, prem ammo.

not in case they make the japanies and germans the blocking  for 2 time the hit points,  there we have 2 godzilas ,MAUS & TYPE 5

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

every mission can be made if its depends in gameplay, 6k damage , 7 kills, 6k spotting and more, but block system just dosnt work.

if its not the blocking mission , what it is for you?

 

The only missions I can complain are the one that require stun and just because those force me to grind artys, that for the most part are boring as hell to play.

For blocking mission you just need to lear to use armour. Did the soviet one in 2 session just playing my HTs at best. Many did it in SU-100M1, I did it in T-150 and KV-4. Nothing so hard or fancy, just play on the front and use your armour effectively.



Homer_J #8 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:26 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 28 January 2019 - 09:24 AM, said:

 

The only missions I can complain are the one that require stun and just because those force me to grind artys, 

No they don't.

 

There's these things called orders which you can use to skip missions you don't like.



Dava_117 #9 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:31 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 28 January 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

No they don't.

 

There's these things called orders which you can use to skip missions you don't like.

 

But then you don't complete them with honors. Stun missions should just get removed because can be done only with arty. All the other requirements can be done with several classes and don't ask you to grind a specific class type as this.

Del059 #10 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:36 AM

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The ones I don't like are 'kill x tanks in the first 3/4 minutes' as it promotes sub optimal play.



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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 28 January 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

so? what is the useless mission we think can help us get at least the EXCALIBUR?

useless because there is no point to try block, if the battle full with special HE , HESH, prem ammo.

not in case they make the japanies and germans the blocking  for 2 time the hit points,  there we have 2 godzilas ,MAUS & TYPE 5

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

every mission can be made if its depends in gameplay, 6k damage , 7 kills, 6k spotting and more, but block system just dosnt work.

if its not the blocking mission , what it is for you?

 

Blocking missions on the Excalibur is not really that bad. Nor do you have to use a tier X or a HT. As that's only making it harder for yourself. Heck most did it in tier 7 TD's "SU-100M1". Nor is it a dead given you will do it every game, even with everyone running no HE at all. Or fast. Just play like normal, use the side armor not the front, and find the poor guy in a stock HT. I did one 2x block vs a stock tier 8 HT with the O-I side armor. Or vs an O-I running derp with AP. As there are a few of those around. Give it time and it will be done. Issue is that most expect to do them instantly. But give up after 5 battles of getting hit by a derp 2 times.

 

But either way. Some love HT's missions, others hate it. Some love scout missions, some hate those with a passion as they are not good scout players. Or just find it boring to farm assist. Even your perfect mission list will get some hate and make people create the same topic asking for a change either way. Just the way it goes.

 



jack_timber #12 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:39 AM

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Doing most of mine in arty with a light sprinkling of TDs thrown in....

Stun missions are straight forward, big gun, big shell, big stun. Rinse and repeat.



Homer_J #13 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:40 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 28 January 2019 - 09:31 AM, said:

 

But then you don't complete them with honors.

Do you need to?

 

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Stun missions should just get removed because can be done only with arty.

Or give stun to all large calibre HE.



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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 28 January 2019 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

Nobody is forcing you to do anything of course.

 

Of course, that's why i never bothered BUT...

 

Better missions design ==> More people playing ==> Full servers ==> Happy WG. :)



Dava_117 #15 Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:50 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 28 January 2019 - 10:40 AM, said:

Do you need to?

 

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Stun missions should just get removed because can be done only with arty.

Or give stun to all large calibre HE.

 

Is one of the few objective in game, so sure I need to do it.

 

And adding stun to all the large caliber HE is just wrong and dangerous for the game.



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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 28 January 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

 

same go to the russian blocking mission. but no russian can block 2 times anymore. or we have luck.

As many forumites have pointed out and opened my eyes too, SU100M1 is the way to go (tier 7 soviet TD).

Combination of small health pool, very bouncy vs same tiers, you wont be spammed gold a lot cause majority doesnt consider it heavily armoured, though it is.

The Obj 705 works wonders too I found out yesterday, but you have to angle correctly.

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ThinGun #17 Posted 28 January 2019 - 04:06 PM

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Here's a thing.  Don't do it?

I have zero chance of achieving the missions as I exclusively play TDs.  Should I whine about it and demand that WG change everything to fit my requirements?

Homer_J #18 Posted 28 January 2019 - 05:34 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 28 January 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:


I have zero chance of achieving the missions as I exclusively play TDs.  

I'm sure the 2nd campaign can be done exclusively in TDs.

 

Apart from the stun missions which can be skipped, TDs can spot, TDs can cap, TDs can damage and kill other tanks.  What is there they can't do?



JocMeister #19 Posted 28 January 2019 - 05:51 PM

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Have to agree on the blocking missions being utterly retarded. 



STRAPATONI #20 Posted 29 January 2019 - 02:32 PM

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i aked those who have problems, not the players which is was easy for them.

not every one have the whole tanks especialy newcomers.

i have allmost 2 of every first campaign mission tanks  and the second is on the work. if we talk indvidualy (something i didnt aim for).

i will ask again,

without the "right" tank to do these missions? in case we conclude waht i mention in first place. for the whole community that trying to get the EXCALIBUR, is this mission consider to much?


 






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