Jump to content


Help me choose 2 lines


  • Please log in to reply
25 replies to this topic

raV_hero #1 Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:31 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 2022 battles
  • 28
  • Member since:
    09-02-2015
Hey so i have a  russian t-34 and a  us m4a3e2. Those are my 2 "main tanks" for now, i want to go one medium and one heavy line.
The question is should i go rus med and us heavy or rus heavy and us med?

I do like the gun depression of the american better because it allows me to be more flexible in how i position, but i have no idea how the later tiers will be, the russian so far is ok except for the gun depression but i heard this is a common russian issue. Although i dont understand why people praise it so much, it feels rather weak but i have no real comparisson and probably just suck lol.
I like being mobile but in my lights i usually get my [edited]kicked and play low tier alot.

VeryRisky #2 Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:45 PM

    General

  • Player
  • 18304 battles
  • 8,826
  • [WJDE] WJDE
  • Member since:
    10-11-2012

Elite the Jumbo and go back and play through the T1 HT and M6 so you get the 90mm for the T29 or the T20 whichever way you want to do it 

 

They're good tanks so it shouldn't be a chore.



raV_hero #3 Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:57 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 2022 battles
  • 28
  • Member since:
    09-02-2015
No im not complaining that the tanks are bad i just want to know which heavy and medium i should pick :)

XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:03 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 53179 battles
  • 2,757
  • [_B-R_] _B-R_
  • Member since:
    04-02-2016

Please stay in lower tiers (5-6-7) till you know the maps well and get a good idea about how the game works (spotting, camo, penetration, view range, proper equipment, etc.) consider this an advice. You're also welcome to rush tiers and get to tier 9 or 10 as fast as you can but i promise you it won't be pretty! :)

 

As for the two lines you mentioned, the american medium line is awesome form the Sherman you currently playing, T20 is very good, Pershing is good compared to other tier 8 mediums and the tier 9 and 10 Pattons are among the best tanks in the game. So whenever you think you're ready and have enough knowledge about how to use gun depression and play well go ahead and research those.

 

A good indication on how good you're doing is the amount of damage you can do in a battle. You start by trying to do your own hp in damage then when you accomplish that you raise the bar a bit and so on.

 

The russian mediums are good, i have no idea why!, but people cry about them a lot. There are 4 russian tier 10 mediums, T62A, Obj. 140, Obj. 430u and K-91. The most viable are the 430u and the 140, the 140 is faster less armored and got a puny gun with lots of DPM while the 430u is slower, heavily armored and carry a 122 mm gun with a good 440 alpha. The 430u is more of a heavy actually.

 

Look at the stats and the model there...

 

https://tanks.gg/techtree/ussr

 

then ask all the questions you need to make your mind.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:03 PM

    Lieutenant Сolonel

  • Player
  • 31237 battles
  • 3,049
  • [FISHY] FISHY
  • Member since:
    06-13-2015
Russia has good tanks on both classes, US med line is probably more relevant than the heavy and is a comfortable grind.

MeNoobTank #6 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:07 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 13710 battles
  • 705
  • [GT_WC] GT_WC
  • Member since:
    02-16-2017

american tanks are bad...well not all of them but most of them.

 

I would say go on the medium line on american tanks and then go russian for both mediums and heavy, US heavies are obsolete, except the tier 7 T29 all of them are pretty bad and not recomended for a new player.

 

You should go on the IS-7 line so Tier 5 KV-1 -> KV1S -> tier 6 KV-85 and so on.

 

For mediums the US ones are pretty ok and the top tiers are good but the russian ones are still better. The best from that line are Tier 7 T20, tier 9 Patton and tier 10 M48 Patton.



DeadLecter #7 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:07 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 26854 battles
  • 1,031
  • Member since:
    05-28-2016
Everytime you have to choose between a Russian tank and any tank from other lines, always choose the Russian line except 62a, IS-4 and Obj 268. Other tanks are all good or great.

VeryRisky #8 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:08 PM

    General

  • Player
  • 18304 battles
  • 8,826
  • [WJDE] WJDE
  • Member since:
    10-11-2012

Can't advise you on that.  I haven't played the ruskies but I have all the US tanks.



raV_hero #9 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:21 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 2022 battles
  • 28
  • Member since:
    09-02-2015
thanks for the tips guys, so american medium and russian heavy is the better choice?
Since im also doing campaign missions im choosing one for each nation and tank type.

MeNoobTank #10 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:24 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 13710 battles
  • 705
  • [GT_WC] GT_WC
  • Member since:
    02-16-2017

View PostraV_hero, on 30 January 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

thanks for the tips guys, so american medium and russian heavy is the better choice?
Since im also doing campaign missions im choosing one for each nation and tank type.

 

Yes! But keep in mind that there are 4 russian heavy lines, go on the one that lead to IS-7.

kubawt112 #11 Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:28 PM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 3378 battles
  • 406
  • [-UM] -UM
  • Member since:
    07-10-2012

US heavies are worth playing mostly for the T29, which is quite strong and a real classic able to do some work almost everywhere. Not really worth going above that. Guess that means you'll go USSR MTs, which are generally allright but known for rather harsh grinds.

 

 

View PostDeadLecter, on 30 January 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

Everytime you have to choose between a Russian tank and any tank from other lines, always choose the Russian line except 62a, IS-4 and Obj 268. Other tanks are all good or great.

 

I thought consensus was that there's no point in picking the T-62A over the 140, but that it's still not a bad tank (because rasha)?

undutchable80 #12 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:09 PM

    Captain

  • Player
  • 9383 battles
  • 2,483
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    10-30-2014

US meds are all round good tanks.

US heavies I can only recommend getting the T7 T29, which is amazing. The T32 is ok, but the T9 & 10 are crap. 

Russian mediums are great. Above it was already mentioned that the 430U and 140 are considered the best two.

Russian heavies are also considered great, except the IS4, but that will get some love this year. 



Homer_J #13 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:28 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Beta Tester
  • 30437 battles
  • 32,834
  • [WJDE] WJDE
  • Member since:
    09-03-2010

View PostVeryRisky, on 30 January 2019 - 06:45 PM, said:

Elite the Jumbo and go back and play through the T1 HT and M6 so you get the 90mm for the T29 or the T20 whichever way you want to do it 

 

They're good tanks so it shouldn't be a chore.

 

View PostraV_hero, on 30 January 2019 - 06:57 PM, said:

No im not complaining that the tanks are bad i just want to know which heavy and medium i should pick :)

 

Stick with the US medium and heavy lines and do as VeryRisky says.  There is a lot of benefit playing two lines from one nation.

 

T20 and T29 are both great.



FataL_ShadowZ #14 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:35 PM

    Corporal

  • Player
  • 7105 battles
  • 137
  • Member since:
    01-19-2018

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 30 January 2019 - 07:03 PM, said:

The russian mediums are good, i have no idea why!, but people cry about them a lot. There are 4 russian tier 10 mediums, T62A, Obj. 140, Obj. 430u and K-91. The most viable are the 430u and the 140, the 140 is faster less armored and got a puny gun with lots of DPM while the 430u is slower, heavily armored and carry a 122 mm gun with a good 440 alpha. The 430u is more of a heavy actually.

 

Is it wrong that I want the K-91 most out of all the russian meds? From the little I know about it, it seems the closest to a TD and I was thinking it was an ideal tank to transition from  from playing almost exclusively TD's gradually into meds.



Jumping_Turtle #15 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:41 PM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 64596 battles
  • 5,820
  • [CNUT] CNUT
  • Member since:
    10-15-2013

I think I would go for the US Mediums, RU Heavies (to the IS7 or 277) and the RU mediums also.

 

I would skip the USA heavies since they arent that much special in the current game. Or take it to the T29 to see what the line is about and stop there,

USA meds are nice to play and have some good tanks in the line (7,9 and 10).

You can not go wrong with the Russian heavies leading to the IS7 and 277. almost all tanks are great in that line.

And why not also take the russian meds. Three lines are pretty much doable and the T44 line gives you the option to get both the 140 as 430U.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:48 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 53179 battles
  • 2,757
  • [_B-R_] _B-R_
  • Member since:
    04-02-2016

View PostFataL_ShadowZ, on 30 January 2019 - 10:35 PM, said:

Is it wrong that I want the K-91 most out of all the russian meds? From the little I know about it, it seems the closest to a TD and I was thinking it was an ideal tank to transition from  from playing almost exclusively TD's gradually into meds.

 

Nooooo, IMO the best transition from TD game play is a mid tier medium. Something like the Jumbo or the T20.

 

As for russian mediums in general i am the worst one you could ask, i don't like them and i don't do well in them. The K-91 in itself is really gimped by the turret traverse, the general state of accuracy in the game and most important by the competition.

 

It's supposed to be very accurate yet you'll miss more shots than the 430u with its crappy 0.38 dispersion!

 

When you get matched up against a true medium like the 140, the 430u or a patton. You'll sense the difference and the presence of these powerful mediums going through your team while you're trying to hide and snipe. Not really a good feeling especially in a 3-5-7 battle when you're supposed to make a difference.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 30 January 2019 - 11:26 PM.


fwhaatpiraat #17 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:10 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 51135 battles
  • 1,010
  • [RGT] RGT
  • Member since:
    05-04-2013
The US medium tank is nice. Don't overlook the easy 8 (sherman E8), it is nice as well, with the pew-pew gun. The T20 (with 90mm gun) is also really nice. When you master that tank (when you are really really good in that tank) go to the next one, since the T20 is tier-for-tier a better tank than the Pershing.

antwerp_fighter #18 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:35 PM

    Sergeant

  • Player
  • 42134 battles
  • 246
  • [SPIKE] SPIKE
  • Member since:
    01-29-2015

Russian Heavies and Russian medium are most new-player-friendly.

American medium is also not bad.

 

Forget about American heavies except T29...and I really like M4...

 

And under current meta (most of time, 6 arty each game), IMO, follow Russian and American medium, and those tanks share a lot of modules with other tanks (making you future grinding easier).



DeadLecter #19 Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:00 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 26854 battles
  • 1,031
  • Member since:
    05-28-2016

View Postkubawt112, on 30 January 2019 - 10:58 PM, said:

US heavies are worth playing mostly for the T29, which is quite strong and a real classic able to do some work almost everywhere. Not really worth going above that. Guess that means you'll go USSR MTs, which are generally allright but known for rather harsh grinds.

 

 

 

I thought consensus was that there's no point in picking the T-62A over the 140, but that it's still not a bad tank (because rasha)?

 

My opinion is not the most valid because the only Russian TX I have is IS-7 and IS-7 is noob friendly because of the great all round qualities it has but honestly it is not good compared to 5A or 277 because they have far better guns and for better players Gun is always better than Armor.

Second, I have never played 62a but it is my understanding that whatever 62a does, 140 does but better, so there is no point in playing 62a while 140 is outright the better tank. 430U is super awesome and has more armor than even Type 5, Thanks to super small hull you can go hull down anywhere and the only weakspot is the lower plate. V4 is still powerful and 277 is great. These are just the TX ones. Russia has the best tanks in all tiers and almost all classes. My favorites are Su 100.01M, T44, T-10, Obj 257, ISU 152, SU 152 and a lot more. No nation has as many good tanks as USSR. And almost all the lines are worth playing, maybe some of them don't have a good TX but all the other ones are great. So yeah, whenever you are stuck between choosing anything vs Russia, go for Russia without a blink.

There are some exceptions. Maus, Strv 103B, S.Conq, Progetto 65 and some more that are not competitive but still not power creeped to hell. And as a general rule of thumb, stay away from Germany. In this game they have the worst tanks in every class and every tier (there are a few exceptions but most are garbage). USA and UK are so-so. Not super bad, or good. Some are nice and some are totaly useless. China has only 5A and 111 4.  TVP 50/51 is still a good tank. French are not good really. They are special and situational. BC is still good but extremely hard to perform well in. Rest are bad. And bad news is I have 3 French TX tanks. Wish I had chosen Russian tanks instead of French. Japan has Type which is OP as long as people aren't firing gold. Polad is good, but nothing that awesome really. Sweden has 1 good TD line but situational and the TX heavy is just a joke. And my piece of advice is don't wait for WG to buff any tank this is the same company that gives you 200 more DPM and takes away gun handling, camo, armor and penetration and then calls the tank balanced. Only tanks that get buffed are Premiums and Russians. Other than these two, going for any other line is like bashing your head against a wall.



SABAOTH #20 Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:15 PM

    Lieutenant Сolonel

  • Player
  • 40172 battles
  • 3,494
  • [-133-] -133-
  • Member since:
    08-28-2011

View PostraV_hero, on 30 January 2019 - 07:57 PM, said:

No im not complaining that the tanks are bad i just want to know which heavy and medium i should pick :)

 

Heavy: Type 5 Heavy

 

Medium: Obj430U

 

TD: BObject

 

SPG: any






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users