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I am done with World of Tanks until Skill Based MM


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Corrupted_Pling #21 Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:53 PM

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remember to close the door when you leave

mtnm #22 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:09 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 January 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

 

[...] Bad players left because they did not learn by only playing vs bad.[...]

 

I don't believe you. Bad players would love to play against their own skill. The only ones who don't want to play equal to equal are the good players. With few exceptions like the OP. I for one would like to have leagues. Bottom level leagues with less rewards and top leagues with better rewards. But it will never be implemented because the good players will leave. I've seen a guy literally crying on youtube when Strongholds got SBMM.

Signal11th #23 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:13 PM

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who the hell wants skill based mm...

SABAOTH #24 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:43 PM

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View Postsignal11th, on 30 January 2019 - 10:13 PM, said:

who the hell wants skill based mm...

 

I don't know, it's stupid.

 

I would give some n00b protection vs sealclubbers but SBMM it's just a punishment for better players (worse than tomato teams) :coin:



Rataplan #25 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:44 PM

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View Postsignal11th, on 30 January 2019 - 10:13 PM, said:

who the hell wants skill based mm...

 

  oo0oo0oooo0oo0o does. It is in the original post. Does anyone pay attention while reading?

Discontinued #26 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:49 PM

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Didn't even read past the first line.

 

 



oo0oo0oooo0oo0o #27 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:49 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 January 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

 

You can't. Because they took it away after everyone whined about it. It killed of their PVP in less then a few weeks. Bad players left because they did not learn by only playing vs bad. Good left because their daily 60% WR suddenly now was 48 to 52% more so then not, and their WR dropped. Just goes to show that you can't please everyone regardless of how "perfect" the system is. As AW did everything the players wanted... And I mean everything. 

 

And tbh, I'm willing to bet that 95% of the players you face have more then 1000 battles. As we all know. Battle count don't always reflect or give experience or skill.

That and your WR the past 7 days and more recently is still higher then your average. So is your WN8. So I highly doubt it's been that bad.

 

Thanks for a clarifying answer. You have some good points. I do not know why people are acting here as if I am hostile. I am just criticising the game on a point which is the most important issue in this game.

 

Lets say that entire skill based system is a bad idea (still I think not), is it really hard to equal players on top tiers? Really what is the point in a tier 8 match including tier 10 tanks and enemy has 8k+ rated top tier players but your team has around 4k rated top ones? Is it really hard to mix them? In my example it means 12k rating difference on top tier players (3xTier 10 Tank). That is huge. I do not wanna play with a tier 8 tank while our Maus are camping behind a bush at back while tier 8 heavies are trying to hold the line. That is just stupid. This is not the concept of fun. Not just for me but for most of other players. I am pretty sure about that.

 

Thanks for your good answer.


Edited by oo0oo0oooo0oo0o, 30 January 2019 - 10:51 PM.


SABAOTH #28 Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:53 PM

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View PostRataplan, on 30 January 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

 

  oo0oo0oooo0oo0o does. It is in the original post. Does anyone pay attention while reading?

 

I am hypnotized by your dog avatar :girl:

overcorpse #29 Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:08 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 30 January 2019 - 09:04 PM, said:

Hey OP,  you should go check out AW, they implemented the skill based matchmaking that everyone said would be the best thing ever!

 

Oh wait, it killed their game..

 

Incorrect.My.com sacking Obsidian because they wanted a WoT clone and Obsidian didn't is what killed their game.

Edited by overcorpse, 30 January 2019 - 11:12 PM.


G01ngToxicCommand0 #30 Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:21 PM

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Give the community access to set up their own servers that players can join and play on, then the bad players can be banned from those and they can have fun licking windows, eating crayons and licking their botholes on Wargaming's servers.

OreH75 #31 Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:28 PM

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View Postoo0oo0oooo0oo0o, on 30 January 2019 - 09:03 PM, said:

Because if we have skill based MM, at least my teammates will not aim sky or sun while we are losing the match. It is a huge difference. And bot players don't make matches interesting. I would like to have 0 WN8 for better balanced matches.

 

Sry to disappoint you but there are numerous people posting here about SBMM as well and they still can't win more than 46% (look up gandalf for example) after 45k battles so you wouldnt see the difference..

Edited by OreH75, 30 January 2019 - 11:29 PM.


Dikkeh0nd #32 Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:12 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 January 2019 - 09:02 PM, said:

You should play AW... I hear their skill based MM worked great. 

 

Yea it killed the game within months :)

TankkiPoju #33 Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:31 AM

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View PostG01ngToxicCommand0, on 30 January 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

Give the community access to set up their own servers that players can join and play on, then the bad players can be banned from those and they can have fun licking windows, eating crayons and licking their botholes on Wargaming's servers.

 

Come on man, I'm sure some community servers would allow arty to play-



Nishi_Kinuyo #34 Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:29 AM

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View PostG01ngToxicCommand0, on 30 January 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

Give the community access to set up their own servers that players can join and play on, then the bad players can be banned from those and they can have fun licking windows, eating crayons and licking their botholes on Wargaming's servers.

Seems like there's more than one person in this thread who's taking a leave. :trollface:

 

As for SBMM: how about no.



ricoBenitez1 #35 Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:31 AM

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View Postoo0oo0oooo0oo0o, on 30 January 2019 - 08:08 PM, said:

 

Nah, I uninstalled the game before I posted this topic.

 

So your game even tru uninstalled did play some games with out you now is that sbmm 

Nishi_Kinuyo #36 Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:37 AM

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 31 January 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

So your game even tru uninstalled did play some games with out you now is that sbmm 

:facepalm:

Are you people really that dense to realise that the forum doesn't immediately update your battlecount?



malachi6 #37 Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:02 AM

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15 minutes after the introduction of SBMM.

 

Suggested thread titles:

 

Why do I get such bad teams.

I keep losing all the team,

Why do I get monkeys as team mates.

OMG MM broken

Why do I have to wait so long for a game.

Can we get a separate server for people from X country.

Why does the new MM not allow me to win all the time like I thought it would.

Something assinine by qpranger

 



LincolnTank #38 Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:03 AM

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I think some people on this forum struggle with the concept of public servers and the fact that not everyone can be l33t. If people are that cut up about below average people then create a private and invite like minded people who’ll help you stroke your e-peen safe from the masses


Hexen #39 Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:13 AM

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Rather than give up the best option OP is to platoon up with similar level players to give you a better chance of getting the win and play the tanks you know you can do best in and also enjoy, well that's what i do when it all goes pear shape for me:great:

Edited by Hexen, 31 January 2019 - 09:17 AM.


N00BT00B #40 Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:23 AM

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View Postgpalsson, on 30 January 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

SBMM will most likely punish good players

 

 

'Most likely' based on what? Gut feeling?

'Good players' will still be good players.

The stat padders and fakers will be the ones to suffer, when their padded win rate/ wn8/ personal rating etc will be compared to those who can play as a team and have proper talent.

The low skilled would benefit too.

Less abuse, more opportunities to thrive against same-skilled opponents.

More opportunities to learn how to play with getting slaughtered time after time by better players.

 

Just because the other tank game didnt implement it properly it doesnt mean it cant or shouldnt be attempted. Lets face it, the other tank game has managed to self destruct on many fronts, not just the poor attempt at skill matching.

Im not saying sbmm will fix all the issues but it cannot be as bad as the rigged rng bs we all have to experience right now.






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