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ZDN #1 Posted 02 February 2019 - 02:33 PM

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British wheeled vehicle

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Tier 6 Humber Mk IV

Production started in 1941

Mass 5 tons Length 4.62m,Width 2.18m,Height 2.43m

Crew 4 members commander, driver, gunner, radio operator

Armor 14 mm  turret,14 mm frontal,10 mm side

Gun 1rd 15 mm,2rd 7.92 mm calibre Besa,and 3rd US made M5 or M6 37 mm

Engine Rootes 6 cyl petrol 90 hp  11.40 bgp power/ton. Engine and radiator rear mounted.

Suspension Wheel 4x4, rigid front and rear axles, rear-wheel drive with selectable four-wheel drive

Speed 72 km/h front and back.

Crew 3

 

Tier 7 Ferret FV 701C

developed in 1949 and in 1950 the first prototype produced. Service 1952-1971

Mass 3.7 tons

Length 3.83 m, Width1.95 m,heigth 1.88 m.

Crew 3 (commander, driver & radio operator)

Engine Rolls Royce  B60 IMA 120 hp and later B60 mk6a 4.25 litre 6cyl 129hp petrol ,and second optional FB60 4 litre 6cyl 175 hp

Top speed 93 km/h

Power/ton 41.35

Suspension fully independent all weels,coils and shocks.

Gun Browning machine gun which can be elevated manually from -15 to +45°, turret traverse being a full 360°. A total of 2,500 rounds of machine gun ammunition is carried.7.62x51 nato gpmg or 30 m1919 Browning machine gun,7.62 mm pintle-mounted Bren LMG

Wheels 4,4x4 transmision

Armor ?

Crew 3


 Tier 8:

AEC Mk III Armoured Car Produced from 1942–1943.

Mass 14 tons,lenght 5.18 m,width 2.74 m,height 2.54 m .Crew 4 members (driver, commander, gunner, loader)

Armor frontal 65 mm , well sloped having an effective thickness of 90 mm, bottom  and side 16 mm.

Guns First QF 6 pounder,second ROQF 75 mm.

Engine.AEC 195 diesel (158 hp)

Power/weight 11.29 hp/tonne Fully loaded.Normal 12.4/tone

Speed 58–65 km/h

Traction 4x4.

 

Tier 9

FV601 Saladin

six-wheeled .Designed in 1954,in service from 1958.Produced 1958–1972

Mass 11,6 tons,lenght 4.93 m,width 2.54 m,height 2.39 m .Crew 3 (driver, commander, gunner(is the loader too).

Armor hull was made of welded steel plates,13 mm thick on the sides to 32 mm on the front glacis plate.

Turret front = 32mm

Turret side = 13mm

Turret rear = 13mm

Hull front = 32mm

Hull side = 13mm

Hull rear = 13mm

Top/bottom = 8mm

Armament HE, AP and HESH rounds.

Guns First OQF 2 pounder,second 76 mm L5A1,and the last/optional ROF 76mm L23A1 low-pressure gun.

Engine Rolls-Royce B80 Mk.6A, 8 cyl petrol 170 hp

Power/weight 15.5 hp/tonne

Suspension 6×6 Independant torsion bars ,and upper and lower link bars.Double hidro shocks.

Speed 72 kph.

Crew 3

 

Tier 10 Fox FV721

Development of the Fox began in 1965 and in 1967 the first car was completed.Production starts in 1972.

Mass 6.75 tons normal and fully loaded 7.44tons.

Lenght 5.08 m,Width 2.13 m,Height 2.20 m.

Crew 3 members (driver, commander, gunner(is the loader too)

Armor Hull aluminium 15/18/18,turret 18/18/15 aluminium.

Gun L21 RARDEN cannon ,Had clips of 3 rounds each, 33 such clips were carried.

Engine Jaguar J.60 No 1 Mk 100B Petrol 190 hp, power to weight ratio of 28.15 hp/tonne

coupled to a David brown pre-select gearbox giving 5 forward and 5 reverse gears a top speed of 104 kph.

Suspension and running gear 4X4 and wishbone type independent suspension with each wheel having a coil spring and hydraulic shock damper.

11.00x20 tires are the run flat type.

 

 

 
 

 

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Edited by ZDN, 02 February 2019 - 02:37 PM.


pudelikael #2 Posted 02 February 2019 - 02:49 PM

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why these cars are needed here????????

 

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Derethim #3 Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:08 PM

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To be honest, the Brits need both a wheeled line and a light tank line.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:23 PM

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76 mm at tier 9 and 30 mm at tier 10, this shows how compatible these vehicles are with WOT!

 

Post war soviet vehicles also never mounted a gun bigger than the 30 mm 2A42 and most of the time mounted the 14.5 mm which was a heavy machine gun actually.


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Blubba #5 Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:33 PM

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A 7.62 machine gun at tier 7?

Is that viable?

There are numerous American produced wheeled vehicles supplied to the UK that the US never used like the T17 which started life with a 37mm but then, with various turrets like the Crusaders sported 6pdrs and even a 3" howitzer. Somewhere down the line, it had a 47mm Pak 41 stuck in it. There was a T18, which while ordered by the UK, was cancelled after the first batch arrived and was armed with a 57mm.

They had great names too like Staghound, Boarhound and the like.

Anyhow, I think wheeled vehicles are an ideal way to get a British lights into the game.

 

Edit:

Coventry armoured car with a 2pdr and later a 75mm.

Daimler armoured car which had the Little John enhanced 2pdrs.

 

The Guy armoured car with a 15mm Besa

 

Humber armoured car with a 37mm

Marmon Herrington with a 2pdr and later the 6 pdr.

The only issue with these is the weapons seem to top out around tier 6. Still, I am sure something could be found/adjusted knowing WG....

 

 

 


Edited by Blubba, 02 February 2019 - 03:47 PM.


Balc0ra #6 Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:37 PM

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Can we give the Brits a high tier light line first before we focus on wheels?  I know they have plenty to take from. But personally I'm more keen on a proper high tier scout before we get a half blind fast wheeled tank.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 02 February 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Can we give the Brits a high tier light line first before we focus on wheels?  I know they have plenty to take from. But personally I'm more keen on a proper high tier scout before we get a half blind fast wheeled tank.

 

This...

I'm keeping my old Valentine crew around in hope of them adding a light line :D

They have sixth sense at least



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Yes i was wondering the same as the Matilda has been re jigged in the tech tree and now can also research the Crusader  WG hinted at another low tiered wheeled vehicle line, maybe this might be it!

Balc0ra #9 Posted 02 February 2019 - 04:56 PM

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View PostDiscontinued, on 02 February 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

Yes i was wondering the same as the Matilda has been re jigged in the tech tree and now can also research the Crusader  WG hinted at another low tiered wheeled vehicle line, maybe this might be it!

 

They have said they have researched the possibilities for wheeled tanks on other nations. Inc UK. But if that is this year, or if ever remains to be seen.

Derethim #10 Posted 02 February 2019 - 04:57 PM

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Don't wanna spam posts, but too lazy to edit... I hope if a brit light line arrives, that we finnaly get a tier II british verison of the tetrarch.

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1. I would like a full light tank line for the UK first (and even that has problems at tiers IX and X).

 

2. The British made lots of different armoured cars, and as mentioned used and modified quite a few USA ones. I suspect the problem will come at the mid tiers with the guns. Having said that, these are historic armoured cars fielded in large numbers in conflicts all over the world by UK forces. (I believe the picture below represents UK units in Korea).


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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 February 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

1. I would like a full light tank line for the UK first (and even that has problems at tiers IX and X).

 

I Disagree. The Tier 9 could simple be the Scorpion 90 and it wouldn't surprise me when WG simple push an 105mm Gun in the Scorpion Turret for the Tier 10.



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 February 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

1. I would like a full light tank line for the UK first (and even that has problems at tiers IX and X).

 

2. The British made lots of different armoured cars, and as mentioned used and modified quite a few USA ones. I suspect the problem will come at the mid tiers with the guns. Having said that, these are historic armoured cars fielded in large numbers in conflicts all over the world by UK forces. (I believe the picture below represents UK units in Korea).

 

Mid and high tiers are problematic as you mentioned. The Vickers prototypes 45569, 46200 and 51025 were too big for a light tank at least in this game but they don't have to add impossible designs just to reach tier 10!


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 02 February 2019 - 06:15 PM.


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I will not accept a British wheeled vehicle branch without the Reliant Robin.

 



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 February 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

1. I would like a full light tank line for the UK first (and even that has problems at tiers IX and X).

 

 

Really Scorpion at tier 9 and Scimitar at tier 10 (choice of Rarden and 90mm gun), seems simple enough for me. Development prototype at tier 8 with Sabre as tier 8 Premium.

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View PostDerethim, on 02 February 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

To be honest, the Brits need both a wheeled line and a light tank line.

What about they fix the many many issues of the game first to make it borderline fun to play again?

THEN we can add more stuff.



Bigtime_Alarm #17 Posted 02 February 2019 - 08:58 PM

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Should have the rolls royce armoured car, just cos it looks cool.

Erwin_Von_Braun #18 Posted 02 February 2019 - 09:03 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 02 February 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

Can we give the Brits a high tier light line first before we focus on wheels?  I know they have plenty to take from. But personally I'm more keen on a proper high tier scout before we get a half blind fast wheeled tank.

 

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View PostJigabachi, on 02 February 2019 - 07:40 PM, said:

What about they fix the many many issues of the game first to make it borderline fun to play again?

THEN we can add more stuff.

 

But it is fun to play?

:)



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 02 February 2019 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

This^
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But it is fun to play?

:)

It is, wow I must have missed that



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View PostBigtime_Alarm, on 02 February 2019 - 08:05 PM, said:

It is, wow I must have missed that

 

If it isn't, why do you play?




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