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Fighto #1 Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:48 PM

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It's gone beyond a joke at this stage, Just got killed by an OI 45% German wizard when I was in my AMD. Before anyone says anything I was 3/4 the way up the middle road in lakeville , I was doing my Job. A 46% M4 shot me in my first game as well today. One Shot killed yesterday by friendly arty, yup you guessed it 45% as well. That actually caused to stop playing last night and again on the brink of calling it quits again today..  Its funny I got a chat ban  few days back for telling someone to go "screw" themselves and they got nothing for shooting me in the first place. It's funny WG could give me the time it happened but couldn't check the reasons for it.



Wintermute_1 #2 Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:13 PM

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Ironically the removal of team damage would make you defenseless against trolling.

BSHDBCG #3 Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:16 PM

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You might wants to play that dumbed down version of WoT then, that Blitz game... heard that they don't have it there and that people block you in with their tanks as their spgs shoots you.

wEight_Tanker #4 Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:19 PM

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Good idea. Then you will complain about teammates blocking you and will request a new feature to shoot through your allies and then you will complain about spotted allies using your unspotted flank as a shield.

Kicky92 #5 Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:58 PM

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Leave team damage in, I just got banned for an hour as a 'friendly' Skorp G thought it'd be funny to push me off a cliff, so I shot him full of HE. 

Removing the team kill system wont stop the pushers, so ALWAYS TK them. 



wsatnutter #6 Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:59 PM

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big fat no here and use the search function or tell your mum or teacher we don't care one jot . how about wg ban whiners for a month now that's a plan

MeetriX #7 Posted 07 February 2019 - 03:58 PM

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No!

Balc0ra #8 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:12 PM

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Team kill system needs a rework. Even more so for platoons. That we can all agree on.

 

 

But... seeing how things faired after console removed team damage. I'm still saying to keep it there. If they want to take you out, or make sure you lose HP. They will work harder for it.  On console there is 10x more pushing now, there is way more blocking, there is way more getting in your face making sure you can't do anything after they removed it. You will only trade one issue with people... That don't like what you did, with a different issue that will ruin that game for you regardless. Trust me.



Objec7 #9 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:14 PM

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View PostFighto, on 07 February 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

It's gone beyond a joke at this stage, Just got killed by an OI 45% German wizard when I was in my AMD. Before anyone says anything I was 3/4 the way up the middle road in lakeville , I was doing my Job. A 46% M4 shot me in my first game as well today. One Shot killed yesterday by friendly arty, yup you guessed it 45% as well. That actually caused to stop playing last night and again on the brink of calling it quits again today..  Its funny I got a chat ban  few days back for telling someone to go "screw" themselves and they got nothing for shooting me in the first place. It's funny WG could give me the time it happened but couldn't check the reasons for it.

 

I agree something has to be done because in last two days I've got teamkilled twice with absolutely no reason (ego) while trying to three mark my 277. Just make the teamkilling system more strict and if player deals more than 30% dmg to a player from same team he gets blue. Would end those FV 4005 trolls with 2k hits at teammates...

Robbie_T #10 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:16 PM

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NO..

Than you will get bombarded by arty on corridor points.....now they have to watchout for there ally's...if ally dmg is off you will get rained down even more.

point 2 is you will have morrons that gonna drive and shoot eachother just for the lols .



XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:52 PM

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In frontline line team damage is disabled and we all played that mode and enjoyed it and there are ZERO reports on the forums or anywhere else of trolling or any other side effects to disabling that "feature"!

 

For the 10000th time, shooting green tanks because they're annoying is against the rules! They can still block you, troll you and make your life a living hell and you'll still get punished if you shoot them!



tajj7 #12 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:55 PM

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Yeh frontlines was a good example to show that the game is better without it on.

 

As far as I know WG are planning to get rid of team damage, it was in their 2019 plans announcement IIRC. 



NoobySkooby #13 Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:57 PM

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Oh I'm a bad boy, not once but twice in M12 I team damaged two of these French go cart things, was suitably apologetic but sort of threw my game a tad, but we did win.

RollingSwarm #14 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:25 PM

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View PostBSHDBCG, on 07 February 2019 - 02:16 PM, said:

You might wants to play that dumbed down version of WoT then, that Blitz game... heard that they don't have it there and that people block you in with their tanks as their spgs shoots you.

 

I wouldn't say that Blitz is dumbed down WoT PC. While sharing many similar elements, it is - quite frankly - a very different game. A world class WoT PC player could not beat a world class WoT Blitz player on Blitz - and vice versa. It is true that Blitz doesn't have friendly-fire enabled, but trolling from green players is quite rare... additionally, Blitz doesn't have SPGs. So that's arguably a plus. IMO, WoT PC is like rugby and WoT Blitz is like American Football.

 

To respond to the OP - I think in the 15v15 scale of WoT, friendly fire has utility. I often don't fire into a brawl at full rate of DPM because I am trying to not hit the greens. Makes the game feel that bit more realistic.

 

Not sure how to fix the issue of troll FF without dramatically increasing the administrative burden on WG though :( - no solution is a perfect fit 100% of the time. 



teamkill_2014 #15 Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:16 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 07 February 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

shooting green tanks because they're annoying is against the rules

 

...but still fun though



XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:23 PM

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View Postteamkill_2014, on 09 February 2019 - 06:16 PM, said:

 

...but still fun though

 

Yep, it's easier and less dangerous than shooting the evil red tanks!

Jigabachi #17 Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:34 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 07 February 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

Yeh frontlines was a good example to show that the game is better without it on.

What does "better" mean in this context? I don't see how that can add to the game experience, it just makes the game even more dull and boring.

The problems that we have due to teamdamage aren't because of its sheer existence, they are because of WG's half assed teamdamage ban system that simply needs an overhaul - like we agreed on in the other 200 pointless whinethreads about this.


Edited by Jigabachi, 09 February 2019 - 05:43 PM.


AliceUnchained #18 Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:35 PM

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View PostFighto, on 07 February 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

If you look at the all the comments up along, the ones trolling are all red players and anyone that has come up with anything even semi constructive is over 50%. Says it all

 

If you look at what you've written in this thread so far, it's all non-constructive whining. You got shot 3 times by players on the same team, so obviously the whole system has to be revised just for your sake. The special princess. Looking at your previous 2 whine threads, most likely these players just recognized your name from the forum, and imagined some highly annoying whine voice with it, and thought the only way to make it stop was to shoot you. How wrong they were... As here you are, once again whining annoyingly. What's next, a whine thread about how some other player stole your damage, or prevented you from winning by cap because that player finished off the last opponent? Seriously, grow a pair already.

 

Spoiler

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #19 Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:38 PM

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This should be clear enough...

 

Block Quote

 Disabled Friendly Fire

We’ve gathered and carefully reviewed your feedback on disabling friendly fire, after the start of Frontline last year. It clearly demonstrated that you liked our suggestion and its impact on the gameplay. Thus, in the 2019 Season, friendly fire remain disabled in Frontline.

 

but for some it never is!

 



snowlywhite #20 Posted 10 February 2019 - 04:44 AM

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1.  when you facehug, guess their *hitter will now be able to dump on you with impunity since no team dmg. Err... very nice.

 

2. when you're dogpiled and they manage to shoot each other when 1 jumps in front of the other guy's gun, it's nice, right?

 

plus, really, it's not realistic. Ok, game isn't very realistic, but still... change the game because once every 50 games you get an idiot in your team? Don't worry, the idiot will still find a way to screw things over even without friendly fire.







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