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feies_vlad #21 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:09 PM

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There was some really good mm testing on the Asian server last year where players got alot of +1-1 games, i remember some people in Circon's chat for example that played on the asian server said that the mm was really nice, but than shortly after WG change it and made it crap again...but why? Did people had to much fun and WG was like "wait we can't have players actually have a fun". And to be honest WG said that they can't implement +1-1 because the queue times would be to long, I rather wait 1-2 min for a nice balanced game with good mm instead of insta queue every game in constant +2 games...

Simona2k #22 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:13 PM

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Nice & interesting

feies_vlad #23 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:14 PM

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View Postm1ch, on 07 February 2019 - 05:07 PM, said:

Replace +/-2 with just +/-1. I just solved the MM PUZZLE AND MYSTERY THAT YOU'RE WORKING SO HARD FOR YEARS NOW.

 

You don't even have to pay me for the idea, really

Well WG thinks we, players could have to much fun with +1-1 mm that is why they don't like to implement +1-1, because they earn alot of money from the games where we are constantly put as bottom tier and need to shoot prem to do anything...



adameitas #24 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:15 PM

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I am afraid it will bring only cosmetic affect. Main problem is that most players stick to one tier. Atm it is good to play t10 since you are always top tier and you are not punished for playing in platoon. Tier 9 is best since it don't see t11, have t10 guns and see t7. T8 and t6 are meat since they have +2/-2 mm, t7 is slightly better but not much. As far as I understand there wont be mm like 9-6, 8-5-2 and so on. MM when there are more top tiers then bottom tiers. All this just means that creating mm system will need more bottom tiers tanks. So it will hurt t5-9 more or less like now.

In general I think main goal should be that players would play all tier. More or less. Atm i don't see any point to play lower then t8 apart grinding. I think wg should think how to make every tier from like t5 special and unique. Atm t10 and t9 are unique. t8 prints creds. So you just need to do something with mid tiers. Like prems would for example gain more crew xp, bonds or get some unique missions and so on.



adameitas #25 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:21 PM

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View PostGeneticSpin, on 07 February 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

it will not fix the random battle befor the fix the teams wher you have 8 unicum players on a teams an 2 on the other team!!...

so ye continue killing the game WG!!!!...

 

mate green players are not unicums:)

CallMeGeralt #26 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:22 PM

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In my opinion, most important thing would be for mm to count how many times you are bottom tier....with that, i wouldnt mind current template. For example....you play two games bottom tier, next two games should be top tier or, if matchmaker for some reason cant find lower tiers in queue, put same tier game. Its not perfect, but still better than fighting tier 10s ten games in a row, when you need to grind credits with tier 8s....then you got one game top tier, and, oh boy, here we go again....

falcon_96 #27 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:39 PM

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In short, under the new system the amount of +1 and +2 MM games COMBINED would be less than the current amount of +2 games ONLY!
That means the time your tier 8 tanks spend as bottom tier female dog to either tier 9s or tier 10s have been, essentially, halved!
WORK FASTER WG!!! WE WANT IT NOW!!!:izmena:

Killing_One #28 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:42 PM

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This just a little change ....this will not resolve the unbalanced teams 11% vs 90%wr in 85% from game time ,is need a skill MM based 50% - 50% wr equal chances both sides...,when a skill MM will be implemented all players will be happy ,till then is need to deal with the 30 lost in a row and 5 wins.... ,also is need to fix the spoting system and lower the +999 rng ,make guns more accurate....................heh dreams dreams dreams :rolleyes:

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LVJHJ001 #29 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:42 PM

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hello,

 

i hope its gonne by better

what and see???;)

why not try 5-6   6-7     7-8      8-9

greetings from belguim

 



NoTactic0_0 #30 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:44 PM

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I think wg should think how to make every tier worth to play.  

Buff the health on lower tiers and put 100 crew up to tier 4. Like this the battles are more interesting and you do not die by one shoot



SM1AK #31 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:47 PM

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FINALLY!!! when you're the bottom tier you don't have many worthy opponents, but are just cannon fodder for the top tiers. except if you're playing an OP premium tank. The only time I can contribute a bit to the outcome of the game as a bottom tier is when I play the 54 mod 1. In stock tech tree tanks you can't do crap and even in some fully upgraded.  

Balc0ra #32 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:48 PM

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  1. Players with preferential Premium vehicles play most their battles against vehicles one tier higher, in the 5-10 template and are rarely getting matched with vehicles of their tier and one-tier lower. As a result, such a situation eliminates the benefits of preferential matchmaking.

 

To be fair... I don't play my IS-6 due to seeing +1 all the time. It's due to it seeing +0 games all the time. It has a 40% bigger chance vs most tier 9 HT lower platers, vs most of the more commonly seen tier 8 HTs. As in the 252 or the VK 100.01. My 202 pen T26E4 on the other hand.... cares less about it. As he has a gun that works.

 

But that said. I'm happy to see more template variants. 3 was the worst part about 3-5-7 to name one. One AFK top tier and you did have your work cut out for you. The other aspect was having bottom tiers have less +2 targets to shoot at that I thought was a bit off considering the balance on some tanks in terms of armor vs gun. Vs having top tiers have less -2 targets to shoot at. Tho then again, other guns there again cares less about it. But some old guns still do.


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Zoggo_ #33 Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:53 PM

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JUST GET ON WITH IT !

By the time we actually see a new MM template on EU servers it will be almost two years of the utter garbage that is 3/5/7 MM.

 

Was 9.18 MM a genuine mistake or intended ? I get the feeling WG tried to push players into playing tier X with the MM, making tier 6 to 8 a more miserable experience being bottom tier 80% of the time. The higher the tier the more likely you need a premium account especially at tier X. Then again maybe it was just sheer incompetence.



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View PostZoggo_, on 07 February 2019 - 05:53 PM, said:

JUST GET ON WITH IT !

By the time we actually see a new MM template on EU servers it will be almost two years of the utter garbage that is 3/5/7 MM.

 

Was 9.18 MM a genuine mistake or intended ? I get the feeling WG tried to push players into playing tier X with the MM, making tier 6 to 8 a more miserable experience being bottom tier 80% of the time. The higher the tier the more likely you need a premium account especially at tier X. Then again maybe it was just sheer incompetence.

 

Well.. this one! Tier_8 Tanks constantly facing higher tier? Load the gold! --> more credits burned, more resources needed, more €€€ invested :coin:

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8 months ago you said that you need 6 months to fix MM, epic fail!

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View Postpiratha, on 07 February 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

Well.. this one! Tier_8 Tanks constantly facing higher tier? Load the gold! --> more credits burned, more resources needed, more €€€ invested :coin:

 

Yep good point too. Also the last 2 years we have seen over armouring at higher tiers (Bobject, 430u ) with the same desired result...load the gold.



Zamieszki #37 Posted 07 February 2019 - 06:11 PM

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So they want to first test this on one of the ru servers and 'gather data' from that test?

This will take months.



sword_of_Damocles #38 Posted 07 February 2019 - 06:12 PM

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looks prommising.Let's see ...

Insert_Insult #39 Posted 07 February 2019 - 06:14 PM

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View Postsword_of_Damocles, on 07 February 2019 - 05:12 PM, said:

looks prommising.Let's see ...

 

so did Fallout 76...

DeadLecter #40 Posted 07 February 2019 - 06:16 PM

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WG has screwed up so many times that even if they say that water is liquid I can't believe them. Let's just wait and see. What is the point of having all these templates if you are still always bottom tier. Imagine 4-11 template. 4 T8s against 11 T9s with TX guns.  I still don't get why they don't add +/-1 tier MM. all the templates for 2 tier MM will be great. 3 tier MM will always suck.




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