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One of the most popular tanks in history with an Asian touch – what does it have to offer?

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[O_verdose]

Nope.

[Echotun]

Bet this one will be fun to drive in Frontline

[Vtsuk]

China allready has the best light tank crew trainer, Type 64.

It's cheaper than this and borderline OP. 

Spend you gold from Christmas and get that, not this one that

Doesn't even fit the playstyle of the Chinese light tanks...

[mjs_89]

Vtsuk, on 08 February 2019 - 06:35 AM, said:

China allready has the best light tank crew trainer, Type 64.

It's cheaper than this and borderline OP. 

Spend you gold from Christmas and get that, not this one that

Doesn't even fit the playstyle of the Chinese light tanks...

 

To be fair, playstyle-wise the Type 64 is also not close to the other chinese LTs. And it mainly trains the otherwise useless radio guy.

Best bet would be the Type 62 actually.

06:03 Added after 1 minute

Oh, and thx WG for actually making the crew-layout of the M41D fit the chinese LTs, rumor was the radio duty would fall to the commander.

[EldritchRogue]

Soo, this isnt worh it?

[Reaper13sa]

Get the German one rather packs more punch for bucks. It makes a French wheel tank think twice about taking you on with its HE!

Edited by Reaper13sa, 08 February 2019 - 07:28 AM.

[Vtsuk]

mjs_89, on 08 February 2019 - 07:02 AM, said:

 

To be fair, playstyle-wise the Type 64 is also not close to the other chinese LTs. And it mainly trains the otherwise useless radio guy.

Best bet would be the Type 62 actually.

06:03 Added after 1 minute

Oh, and thx WG for actually making the crew-layout of the M41D fit the chinese LTs, rumor was the radio duty would fall to the commander.

You are right, it doesn't fit the playstyle, but the radioman as 

soon as he gets his 3rd skill he stops bothering you.

I have trained in Type 64 crews for my WZ-132,WZ-132-1 and 

last even for my WZ-120! 

It's a pretty fun tank to play, even though it has a slow turret.

 

[undutchable80]

https://tanks.gg/com...-gf~m41-bulldog

 

So pen is way better than both the Blackdog and the regular tech tree bulldog even though it has the same calibre as the Bulldog. Also has a higher RoF than the Bulldog cuz reasons, which means it has the highest DPM compared to Blackdog and Bulldog. Better aimtime and dispersion than both. But worse mobility than the Bulldog and (almost) the same with the Blackdog, as well as 10m less view range than the Bulldog (but the same with the Blackdog). 

 

Overall: better gun than the other Dogs, but worse mobility. 

 

Personally I own the Type 64 already and I dont play regular Chinese LTs, so I will pass. 

 

EDIT: the tank comes with "A set of camouflage for each map type". Is that just the woodland camo you see in the pictures and you get 9 sets of it, or is there a different winter and desert camo (x3) that comes with the package?

 

EDIT 2: Also cool you are doing the rental code again! (Even though a slight meh that its only for 5 battles, in stead of 7 days like you did with the Panhard, even though I get why you probably did it; no new mechanics and no need to collect data on where to create no-go areas on the map). 

Edited by undutchable80, 08 February 2019 - 08:01 AM.

[adameitas]

hmm i will think about it. Did not expect much from it but now looking at stats i am surprised in a good way. Seems that tank has very nice gun and around 30% more p/w with same soft stats.

[BSHDBCG]

What are the camo values of this Chinese dog though?

[mjs_89]

BSHDBCG, on 08 February 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:

What are the camo values of this Chinese dog though?

 

29,85/6,99 with BiA, camo, vents and piant.

31,01/7,26 if you add food

 

undutchable80, on 08 February 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

EDIT: the tank comes with "A set of camouflage for each map type". Is that just the woodland camo you see in the pictures and you get 9 sets of it, or is there a different winter and desert camo (x3) that comes with the package?

 

9 sets of the one in the pictures, sadly. It looks cool, but personally I'd have preferred alternate colours for different map types.

 

Vtsuk, on 08 February 2019 - 07:44 AM, said:

You are right, it doesn't fit the playstyle, but the radioman as 

soon as he gets his 3rd skill he stops bothering you.

I have trained in Type 64 crews for my WZ-132,WZ-132-1 and 

last even for my WZ-120! 

It's a pretty fun tank to play, even though it has a slow turret.

 

 

Still the worst crew trainer though, as the "accelerate crew training" option on it is non-existant due to the radio guy.

But the best chinese LT tier for tier, no doubt.

[undutchable80]

mjs_89, on 08 February 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

 

9 sets of the one in the pictures, sadly. It looks cool, but personally I'd have preferred alternate colours for different map types.

 

That is indeed sad. Even though I am (still) not going to buy it, I would also like to have seen alternative colours for the different map types. 

[barzo_twitch]

guys can you give me a rental code? I want to try 

[8126Jakobsson]

Tempting, but I already have 64 and 62 and don't play Chinese lights nowadays. Can't see a good reason to add this dog to the kennel. 

[Cobra6]

While it's certainly a nice tank, I already have the Type62 *AND* somehow this is better then the regular tech tree version for what reason again?

 

I mean, I'm struggling to not call this pay to win really.....

 

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EDIT:

 

Azakow was kind enough to provide me a code for this one, and I have to say it's a really solid light tank.

 

The mobility is good enough for a light tank even if it's slightly worse then the free bulldog.

The gun handling is very nice and the penetration does make quite a bit of difference in engagements against same tier and one tier higher heavies/mediums, also at range. Basically this is the penetration all tier 8 lights should have, around 200mm.

Viewrange and camo are solid, no complaints there.

 

All in all a very completive tier 8 light tank with some features all T8 lights should have in reality.

Will I be picking up one? I don't think so unless someone gifts it to me. I already have the Type62 (which tier for tier is better since viewrange and camo do really matter for T6-7 lights) and I own the Type64 which I don't really like.

As for Tier 8 lights, I think I have more then enough at the moment and I really don't see a benefit to having a 3rd Chinese LT trainer.

 

If this is your first Chinese LT however, it's certainly worth the pick-up. M41D/Type62 are the best you can get.

 

 

My final stats after 5 rental battles:

100% winratio.

1560 avg. damage per game (Got one-shotted by a KV2 in the last match so actually only managed to do 900 in the last game and die "early&quot.

1181xp avg. per game.

12,62% gun mark.

 

Cobra 6

Edited by Cobra6, 10 February 2019 - 09:51 PM.

[Zero_aim]

Absolutly worth it , good spotter and fast accurate gun!..!

[Vtsuk]

mjs_89, on 08 February 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

 

29,85/6,99 with BiA, camo, vents and piant.

31,01/7,26 if you add food

 

 

9 sets of the one in the pictures, sadly. It looks cool, but personally I'd have preferred alternate colours for different map types.

 

 

Still the worst crew trainer though, as the "accelerate crew training" option on it is non-existant due to the radio guy.

But the best chinese LT tier for tier, no doubt.

How is acc. training non-existent? If you keep a radioman for this purpose only with 4 skills ,lets say, until the the all crew reaches that 4th

Skill it works perfectly fine. 

Edited by Vtsuk, 08 February 2019 - 08:44 AM.

[Cornishi]

Cobra6, on 08 February 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

While it's certainly a nice tank, I already have the Type62 *AND* somehow this is better then the regular tech tree version for what reason again?

 

I mean, I'm struggling to not call this pay to win really.....

 

Cobra 6

 

M41D trades mobility for firepower how is that straight better than original version ? WHy do you think firepower is more important than mobility ? on what metric and logic do you even make this statements. Thats not an objective opinion. 

[Cmdr_Psycho]

So it has better gun statistics than both the regular and the German bulldog (except the heat shells on the German bulldog with 250 vs the 227 pen on this one, but as always, heat is very situational not like the apcr-prems here so it might be neglectable).

 

It also has way better mobility than the Blackdog (21 vs 31 hp/t) and only slightly behind the tech-tree version (which has about 33? hp/t if I remember correctly).

 

I also don't get why it's a Chinese again. so many nations.... but we only get tanks for lines where we already have a lot of them covered (see Russian heavies and t44 clones, german prem-td's, French tier 8 meds and now 3 Chinese prem-light tanks?).

 

So many other nations where change or something new would have been great.....