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grizly1973 #1 Posted 08 February 2019 - 01:52 PM

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So I've got my 2 MoE on the Leo with ease. But now I've been stagnating at ~86.5-87% for an entire 80 battles with no sign of any potential improvement.

I use a Gun Rammer, Vents and Binocular Telescope. I get around 1.2K dmg per battle with no way to squeeze more. Sometimes I get up to 3K combined though. I've tried both the 7.5cm and the 10cm and I get the saem average damage out of battles although the gameplay and playstyle is different.

So, to those of you that have 3-marked the Leo or medium tanks in general, what are your tips and what could I do to finally get 3 marks?


Edited by grizly1973, 08 February 2019 - 01:52 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:07 PM

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  • Use the small gun.
  • Carry a lot of APCR.
  • Try to get spotting damage if there is an opportunity, don't act like a light because it's not.
  • Try to stay in the battle for as long as you can ==> don't take unnecessary damage.
  • Make the most out of defeats to hold the mark percentage. On the opposite, be aggressive if you've a good team.
  • If you can spare the credits, use food for the last 4-5% but be aware that it burn a lot.

 

For equipment i use rammer, vents and optics.and good luck with the maps!


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tank276 #3 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:08 PM

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Am on the same page as you man, just 2 marked it but I like it (with the 75 mm gun).

Am pretty excited for the new upcoming t8 swed med.

For 3 marking (I have only 3 marked the VK 3001D, not a real expert), I guess the quartet of advice is:

1. Always stay alive untill last second of battle to maximize damage.

2. Dont really care about your team winning, its the same for you win or lose if u have farmed plenty of damage.

3. Have 90% of your loadout with gold ammo.

4. Spotting damage is as much important as normal damage, so you must not red-line-snipe (binos is a nice touch, I have optics loaded instead).

Cheerio

 

Edit: My friend Kuzkina , great minds meet.


Edited by tank276, 08 February 2019 - 02:09 PM.


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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 08 February 2019 - 02:07 PM, said:

  • Use the small gun.
  • Carry a lot of APCR.
  • Try to get spotting damage if there is an opportunity, don't act like a light because it's not.
  • Try to stay in the battle for as long as you can ==> don't take unnecessary damage.
  • Make the most out of defeats to hold the mark percentage. On the opposite, be aggressive if you've a good team.
  • If you can spare the credits, use food for the last 4-5% but be aware that it burn a lot.

 

For equipment i use rammer, vents and optics.and good luck with the maps!

oops.

The OP  question was:

View Postgrizly1973, on 08 February 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

So, to those of you that have 3-marked the Leo or medium tanks in general, what are your tips and what could I do to finally get 3 marks?

 

My response, while not having 3 MoE on Leo:

Try do as much dmg and assist, try to survive as long as possible, relocate when spotted.

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View Posttank276, on 08 February 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

Edit: My friend Kuzkina , great minds meet.

Indeed.


Edited by azakow, 08 February 2019 - 02:11 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #5 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:12 PM

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View Posttank276, on 08 February 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

Am on the same page as you man, just 2 marked it but I like it (with the 75 mm gun).

Am pretty excited for the new upcoming t8 swed med.

For 3 marking (I have only 3 marked the VK 3001D, not a real expert), I guess the quartet of advice is:

1. Always stay alive untill last second of battle to maximize damage.

2. Dont really care about your team winning, its the same for you win or lose if u have farmed plenty of damage.

3. Have 90% of your loadout with gold ammo.

4. Spotting damage is as much important as normal damage, so you must not red-line-snipe (binos is a nice touch, I have optics loaded instead).

Cheerio

 

Edit: My friend Kuzkina , great minds meet.

 

Thanks and good luck with you marks. It's a nice little tank with high expectations for the marks for no goddamn reason! :)

Balc0ra #6 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:13 PM

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When it comes to gun. It's down to style. I ran 100% 10cm gun on mine when I did it as it fits my style more. If not I did feel like was playing a Comet with a bad turret as I had to stay exposed more to get the same damage.

 

I played it like a hybrid in a +2 game, and a bully in a +1 and top tiers. As it can sneak around and farm assist on most passive spot locations as well as most lights early on vs tier 9. You need to farm assist and damage as much as you can. And tracks shots when you farm damage. Always go for track first if you know others will hit it. It's free assist on the way. As top tier or in +1 I used the alpha on the 10cm. Constantly moving around. Peek over a ridgeline, flank fire, and harras, use the speed to relocate and do it again once the guns turn around towards me. Or I follow the med pack and bully with them. And when it was a loss. I did fall back and used the alpha, or stayed up front and spotted for my TD campers etc. What ever gains you more.

 

My 3 MOE game was on the last variant of Fisherman's Bay, as that's a great hybrid map for it. I stayed along the middle and spotted HT's and their middle meds. Then moved to the one lane and spotted and flank fired the middle from there. Got almost 4.5K combined.


Edited by Balc0ra, 08 February 2019 - 02:14 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:16 PM

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View Postazakow, on 08 February 2019 - 03:11 PM, said:

oops.

The OP  question was:

 

My response, while not having 3 MoE on Leo:

Try do as much dmg and assist, try to survive as long as possible, relocate when spotted.

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Indeed.

 

Yes i am aware of what the question was and i answered it to the best of my knowledge! :)

grizly1973 #8 Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:17 PM

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Thank you everyone for the advice! I'll do my best and I'll let you know when I get mine (if I ever do)! :ohmy:

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View Postgrizly1973, on 08 February 2019 - 02:17 PM, said:

 I'll do my best

 

Spoiler

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I switched between the guns a lot but the last 10-15 games before the mark was done with the big gun. I think its easier with the big gun as I found it hard to do damage with the pew pew gun.

 

Personally I hated the Leo. I think its one of the worst tier 7 MTs in the game. At least the big gun gives you a little bit of fear factor but its slow, huge, no armor...only advice I can give is have patience and conserve the HP for the late game as its the only "armor" you will have. Max out VR and try to farm as much assist as possible. 



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I'm amazed as the Leo is a terrible tank so I really expected the 3 MoE requirements to be low. It's a paper tank with comparetively bad mobility that either suffers from potato gun handling (big gun) or too little ammo capacity (small gun).

 

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View PostCobra6, on 08 February 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm amazed as the Leo is a terrible tank so I really expected the 3 MoE requirements to be low. It's a paper tank with comparetively bad mobility that either suffers from potato gun handling (big gun) or too little ammo capacity (small gun).

 

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Balc0ra #13 Posted 08 February 2019 - 03:06 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 08 February 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

I'm amazed as the Leo is a terrible tank so I really expected the 3 MoE requirements to be low. It's a paper tank with comparetively bad mobility that either suffers from potato gun handling (big gun) or too little ammo capacity (small gun).

 

View PostJocMeister, on 08 February 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

Personally I hated the Leo. I think its one of the worst tier 7 MTs in the game.

 

Oddly enough. It's one of my top fav 5 tanks in the game. It's flexibility just suits my style more vs say the Comet.

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I liked Leo a lot. It's not very good, but 300 alpha on decently mobile/stealthy platform works for me. I suggest dropping binos for optics.

grizly1973 #15 Posted 08 February 2019 - 03:13 PM

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I started using the 7.5cm and I am seeing a slight increase. Looks like the way to do it (albeit very slowly) is to sit in a bush (passive scout with binos) and shoot stuff that's far enough away so you won't get spotted.

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View Postgrizly1973, on 08 February 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

I started using the 7.5cm and I am seeing a slight increase. Looks like the way to do it (albeit very slowly) is to sit in a bush (passive scout with binos) and shoot stuff that's far enough away so you won't get spotted.

 

It's all about style on that tank. Gun makes it way different. So go for the one that's most effective for you.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 February 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

 

Oddly enough. It's one of my top fav 5 tanks in the game. It's flexibility just suits my style more vs say the Comet.

 

Yeah, I should like it as I seem to go along well with any MT with good gun dep...but the choice of guns just kills the tank for me. Pew pew gun isn´t accurate enough for a low pen low alpha gun and the big one is just too effing troll for me to enjoy. Its the only tier 7 MT i flat out dislike and don´t want to play. 

 

IMO WG should buff the pew pew gun so you will actually hit where you aim. Then Leo might be a little more enjoyable. 

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View Postgrizly1973, on 08 February 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

I started using the 7.5cm and I am seeing a slight increase. Looks like the way to do it (albeit very slowly) is to sit in a bush (passive scout with binos) and shoot stuff that's far enough away so you won't get spotted.

 

I would strongly advice you to switch out binos for optics. There are so few maps in the game where binos and passive spotting is viable that you are pretty much wasting a slot.

 

Generally speaking when trying to 3-mark a tank I would never ever go with binos unless its a low VR redline TD. And absolutely never on an MT. You need to be mobile and active.


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View PostJocMeister, on 08 February 2019 - 03:16 PM, said:

IMO WG should buff the pew pew gun so you will actually hit where you aim. Then Leo might be a little more enjoyable. 

 

It's why I hated the pew pew gun. It exposes you for longer if you want to do some damage at all. 

grizly1973 #19 Posted 08 February 2019 - 03:25 PM

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Little do you know, JocMeister, that you're the one responsible for starting my 3 MoE obsession aswell. That signature makes me jealous. :P Anyways, even if I manage to 3-mark a crap ton of tanks (my pathetic life allows me to), I'll stick to my "The Map Guy" signature. :trollface:

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View Postgrizly1973, on 08 February 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

Little do you know, JocMeister, that you're the one responsible for starting my 3 MoE obsession aswell. That signature makes me jealous. :P Anyways, even if I manage to 3-mark a crap ton of tanks (my pathetic life allows me to), I'll stick to my "The Map Guy" signature. :trollface:

 

Haha, glad to hear that! :)

 

Starting to 3-mark tanks is what really started me to improve as a player and nowadays its the only thing that motivates me to play. I wish you the best of luck in your future markings! Once you get hooked you are hooked for good! :trollface:







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