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[OMG_Abaddon]

This is the comparative: https://tanks.gg/com...?t=rudy~t-34-85

 

It's a tech tree tank you can buy for gold, everyone can buy it at any time, now this tank is damn stronger than the standard T-34-85. Not only that, it also beats Rudy everywhere.

 

It has a small drawback though, the terrain resists are worse, but hardly noticeable as it reaches pretty much the same speed as the other two, the acceleration it has is just enough for anything you'll need to do.

 

I don't care if premium tanks have certain strengths compared to tech tree, but as long as it trades something else. For example: https://tanks.gg/com...es-03?t=strv-s1

 

Here you see UDES-03 has 300 less DPM, but in exchange for 0.5 dispersion which is A LOT. At the range you have to fight this means sometimes you miss your target entirely. UDES has much better speed, but that's the trade for having less armor, so on UDES you can't take shots as everyone overmatches you, but on a Strv S1 you can autobounce 85mm and worse guns which many players sport in that tier.

 

Now T-34-85M doesn't trade gun handling for more DPM, it's the same, and even better at aiming than the standard T-34-85.

 

With all the OP tanks including the Chieftain nowadays, I wanted to make sure you don't miss this.

[TankkiPoju]

T-34-85 is already a very good tank. Rudy is better. T-34-85M is even better than Rudy. Russian tanks just have to be the best.

 

[LordMuffin]

Yes, WG sucks at balancing or are just not interested in any other balance then a financial one.

[backmania]

You are just about right!

 

It is an overbuffed premium nowadays, because the Russian bois could not stand that their precious reward tank traded a slightly worse gun for more armor. 

 

*purely my theory

[Balc0ra]

Thing is... that we had whine topcis when it came that Rudy and the T-38-85 beat it at everything before. It was half as fast and had 128 pen, and way less DPM. 

 

IMO it should still be as slow. The gun buffs alone were more than good enough. And tbh... they could almost get away with nerfing it. As before it was buffed, there were 5K of them. Then suddenly they had a marathon for it after they buffed it. And it spiked up to over 200K. They have also given it as a free rental to new players. So the population is even more off. I'm willing to bet that less than 5% of the current owners actually paid for it vs say the KV-5 they wanted to change. Heck, I had it before they buffed it. And I did not even pay for it. I got mine via the Tank Museum.

Edited by Balc0ra, 09 February 2019 - 02:53 PM.

[H3llmarch]

All tenks are equal but Russians more equal.

[FTR]

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

Edited by FTR, 09 February 2019 - 03:58 PM.

[malowany]

FTR, on 09 February 2019 - 03:56 PM, said:

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

 

Have you ever played skirmish? its dominated by these tanks, the "meaningless" armour results in 2-3 lol bounces per game and that might as well cost you the match.

[juonimies]

Agree, OMG_Abaddon. A rashan premium. Best tank in T6. Obviously. 

[gpalsson]

FTR, on 09 February 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

 

German tier 10 lt confirmed CW tank. You always see full lineups of those.

[juonimies]

FTR, on 09 February 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

 

As far as I've noticed no tank can move faster than a cannon projectile, but better armor can bounce more hits. 

 

But concidering this is a made in russia - game, i wouldnt be surprised if there were different rules for different players in this game.

[OMG_Abaddon]

FTR, on 09 February 2019 - 03:56 PM, said:

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

 

 

Trolling or serious?

 

[KillingJoker]

I find funny how to still weights less than the regular T35-85 while having more armor all around... they must be using some special type of steel!

 

 

[CyberRage]

FTR, on 09 February 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

Some extra armor (mostly meaningless) with less mobility and a little more dpm, which only matters when you can farm people. 

 

I fail to see what's so op about this tank.

 

In this game mobility is EVERYTHING. Unicums would sacrifice any amount of armor if they can go 5 km/h faster.

 

Only because those unicoms play exclusively in platoons to statpad. Playing solo a little more armor can go a long way when there is no one to cover your flanks.

 

KillingJoker, on 09 February 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

I find funny how to still weights less than the regular T35-85 while having more armor all around... they must be using some special type of steel!

 

 

 

This seems to be the case for a lot of tanks. Some high tier tanks have big 200 - 250mm plates and weight less than some other tanks with 100m all around. It doesn't follow any logic. It's partly because they do not take armor density in consideration, which mostly benefits the Russian tanks that are notoriously shoddy made during WW2 ( welded, lowly refined metal sometimes produced from scrap ). Compared to Krupp and Allied steel which was highly refined and cast into larger single sections and reinforced with bolts.

Edited by CyberRage, 09 February 2019 - 09:37 PM.

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