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[eekeeboo]

bubaraba, on 01 March 2019 - 01:48 PM, said:

WG is lying! Look at this lie: The ELC EVEN 90: a tank so tiny that it can hide anywhere and retain high speeds, regardless of the terrain <-- (this is total lie, because hiting wooden fence while driving on 60 km/h, you are slowing down, so dont even think keep the speed on small hill). Wg dont lie to people while trying to get some money.

 

Generally, terrain is the ground and things like mountains and hills. Things like Fences and walls and houses are structures and obstacles. The tank keeps its speed quite well even when turning sharply! 

 

CelalaltJe, on 01 March 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

What is u already have the IS2? What do u get if u buy it?

 

​If you buy it from the store you should be compensated with the gold value. 

 

 

[bubaraba]

eekeeboo, on 01 March 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

 

Generally, terrain is the ground and things like mountains and hills. Things like Fences and walls and houses are structures and obstacles. The tank keeps its speed quite well even when turning sharply! 

 

 

​If you buy it from the store you should be compensated with the gold value. 

 

 

 

The tank keeps its speed quite well even when turning sharply! <-- this is again lie, if i turn sharply, he is slowing down. I have ELC in my garage more than 2 years, so dont put effort to say something that he doesnt do.

[TheArk_2014]

Gremlin182, on 01 March 2019 - 11:08 AM, said:

Right now many of my games have 6 light tanks per side.

The ELC Even 90 is terrible vs other light tanks.

Everything has gone into camo so its all but invisible however Putting on a 90mm gun means it fires slowly and takes an age to reload the clip.

Its very light and given the engine power, that translates into slow acelleration and everytime you run into objects you lose speed.

A wooden fence is ok anything else is deadly if you are trying to get away from another tank.

 

The new wheeled vehicles and most other light tanks mean trouble

cannot run cannot fight but you can hide

 

Just a few hours ago, a tier IX battle at the Malinovka map, three lights per team ... one of the lights of my team was the ELC EVEN 90.

At the end of the game (a win) he was 4th with almost zero damage (64 damage, ONLY 3 shots, 2 hits, one penetration, 1 kill ... LOL), he survived until the end of the battle with 3838 spotting damage:

 

Watch the battle and see how a good player uses a light tank like this (ELC EVEN 90).

 

                                                                            

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4796009#malinovka-theark_2014-wz-111-1g_ft

 

 

                                                                             

Edited by TheArk_2014, 01 March 2019 - 10:24 PM.

[DSP37]

Damn, I've always wanted this premium IS-2 and now everybody says it sucks. No tank for me, I guess

[eekeeboo]

bubaraba, on 01 March 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

 

The tank keeps its speed quite well even when turning sharply! <-- this is again lie, if i turn sharply, he is slowing down. I have ELC in my garage more than 2 years, so dont put effort to say something that he doesnt do.

 

I just played it and with full turning at 66kmh per hour constant speed, driving up a small hill was 59kmh before accelerating to full again with full active scouting. 

 

 

[RenamedUser_50080245721]

Oh man I want the ELC, my rental expired and its still in the garage but ugh so expensive again and I also still want that Progetto. The gun on the ELC is so BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD but that thing is so funny to drive.

 

If I buy the ELC, I still get the extra garage slot and the 100% crew even though my expired rental already has 100% crew? I keep both crews right since I suppose my expired rental gets replaced with the actual one? Or do I get 2 ELC Even's?

 

Update:

Apparently the new tank overrides the expired rental and the 100% crew is sent to the barracks. Best case.

Edited by Squirting_Elephant, 02 March 2019 - 01:16 PM.

[Deep_Sea_Diver]

I have both tanks, for a while I was enjoying the IS2 but then it started to get matched up consistently against tier 9th where it is all but useless.

The ELC on the other hand is a hilarious tank to play, I love it to bits. Yes it does suck in many departments but where it shines, IT SHINES.

In my experience you best protection is your size. ​This little bugger is so hard to hit, it creates the mother of all frustrations.

[CelalaltJe]

eekeeboo, on 01 March 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

 

 

 

 

​If you buy it from the store you should be compensated with the gold value. 

 

 

 

and u still get the BIA crew?

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DSP37, on 01 March 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

Damn, I've always wanted this premium IS-2 and now everybody says it sucks. No tank for me, I guess

 

Well, for what is worth, i have it and i like it very much. Ofc when u in a tier 9 game it sux, like in any other tier 7. But tank is good, armor works if u know how to angle it, gun has high alpha and Rof, mobility is good and it's a good crew trainer. Not to mention it comes with a 0 BIA crew at a decent price. I'd say it's a good deal. 

[AngryBot365]

My name is David and i wanna buy ELC Even 90 but as always when it's for sale i got no money...

[Zmago5000]

Is2 is actualy pretty good.....with gold ammo and not facing t9 that is lol....

[ccoolliinn_1]

DSP37, on 01 March 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

Damn, I've always wanted this premium IS-2 and now everybody says it sucks. No tank for me, I guess

 

Don't be put off, the IS2 is slightly better than the tech tree IS which I already had and liked + its a premium . I'm not a great player but have a 54% win rate in it. I need some gold so may buy again and gain a BIA crew 

Edited by ccoolliinn_1, 03 March 2019 - 12:22 PM.

[ccoolliinn_1]

ccoolliinn_1, on 03 March 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

 

Don't be put off, the IS2 is slightly better than the tech tree IS which I already had and liked + its a premium . I'm not a great player but have a 54% win rate in it. I need some gold so may buy again and gain a BIA crew 

 

Dam, just looked don't need another Russian crew, what I would like is a British BIA crew for the FV4005. Don't really want to move my 4 skill Conway crew, tanks a keeper so much fun. Is the Cromwell B going on sale soon .

[CyberRage]

Gardar7, on 01 March 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

New offers every day and no Type 59. It is not special (OP) anymore, WG could really start to sell it from time to time. Look at Progetto, it is much better than Type and it is on sale regularly. Or T-44-100 if we stay at the meds only. So I think it is time to start to sell it. I would buy it even in a bundle. 

 

WG knows that tanks like Type 59, Defender and IS-3A are unique because they offer some advantages to the tech tree tanks and they are fun to play. So they will only sell them in $$$ boxes because they know people will gamble hundreds just to get one of them.

[ccoolliinn_1]

Gardar7, on 01 March 2019 - 09:18 AM, said:

New offers every day and no Type 59. It is not special (OP) anymore, WG could really start to sell it from time to time. Look at Progetto, it is much better than Type and it is on sale regularly. Or T-44-100 if we stay at the meds only. So I think it is time to start to sell it. I would buy it even in a bundle. 

 

After the buffs the Type 59 had, its better than you think, just as fast as the Progetto and with a lot more armour. Fire power not as good but doesn't see tier 10.

[Gremlin182]

TheArk_2014, on 01 March 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

Just a few hours ago, a tier IX battle at the Malinovka map, three lights per team ... one of the lights of my team was the ELC EVEN 90.

At the end of the game (a win) he was 4th with almost zero damage (64 damage, ONLY 3 shots, 2 hits, one penetration, 1 kill ... LOL), he survived until the end of the battle with 3838 spotting damage:

 

Watch the battle and see how a good player uses a light tank like this (ELC EVEN 90).

 

                                                                            

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4796009#malinovka-theark_2014-wz-111-1g_ft

 

 

                                                                             

 

Oh yes its an excellent spotter best I did recently was 7100 spotting, its the ability to fight or escape from another light tank that's a problem.

The gun is designed for much bigger targets if you get all 3 shots into another light he is dead.

They however have much faster rof and faster clip reload on their autoloaders and their guns are big enough to take you out very quickly.

The poor power to weight means they will probably catch you.

 

Great pity premium tanks don't come with a choice of guns like standard tanks I would love to try out the tank with say a 75mm gun with a bigger magazine.

Be a good selling point for all premiums being able to customise them

 

 

 

Edited by Gremlin182, 04 March 2019 - 09:46 AM.

[eekeeboo]

CelalaltJe, on 02 March 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

 

and u still get the BIA crew?

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Well, for what is worth, i have it and i like it very much. Ofc when u in a tier 9 game it sux, like in any other tier 7. But tank is good, armor works if u know how to angle it, gun has high alpha and Rof, mobility is good and it's a good crew trainer. Not to mention it comes with a 0 BIA crew at a decent price. I'd say it's a good deal. 

 

To which one sorry?

 

 

[RenamedUser_50080245721]

Gremlin182, on 04 March 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

its the ability to fight or escape from another light tank that's a problem.

The gun is designed for much bigger targets if you get all 3 shots into another light he is dead.

They however have much faster rof and faster clip reload on their autoloaders and their guns are big enough to take you out very quickly.

The poor power to weight means they will probably catch you.

 

 

I assume that you mean the INABILITY to do so. My ELC Even get's outmatched by just about everything once spotted including by lower tiers. I even had a case today with a lower tier enemy that had about 450hp left so I shot it 3x. 2 low rolls and 1 miss so I couldn't even ram him... Then he turned around and chased me (I couldn't get away because of TERRIBLE engine ratio) and before the 30 sec reload was done I went from 100-->0. On some maps even with off-road driving you are stuck on 48km/h speed on flat terrain, which is terrible for a glass-tank.

 

Same problem where I bounce/miss my AP shell on arty and the other 2 shots don't roll high enough so he survives... I can only cry and run for 30 seconds. Same problem vs high tier STRV's. They have too much hp, you shoot it 3x and then you better run run run run.

 

Being toptier as ELC Even is also not always great. 3 came at me but I had only 3 shots so I killed the 2 low hp ones and the 3rd one shot me 100->0 while chasing me over the map while I reloaded... Can't escape anything and I'm harmless...

 

Map: Cliff. If you spawn on bottom side I noticed that you can't (or at least I never managed to) goto the hill on the ELC because your engine is not strong enough, you will slide back down again, even on full speed.

 

This tank relies on never being spotted. One of the few tanks in the game were you HAVE to train camo first on crew and one of the few tanks where you need a lot of crew skills to make this tank good. Because even my JgdPz E100 has more viewrange until you upgrade the commander but you need 6th sense, BIA and camo first... so ouf long grind man just to get the same viewrange as that TD... But you do have awesome camo.

 

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Great pity premium tanks don't come with a choice of guns like standard tanks I would love to try out the tank with say a 75mm gun with a bigger magazine.

Be a good selling point for all premiums being able to customise them

 Yes please a choice for the ELC in guns so we can get a non-autoloader gun. Or it should at least reload like the Italian ones because not everyone likes an autoloader (or atleast not on this tank for me).

 

Tank is really weak and underpowered imo but really fun. Also fun to ammorack a Tier10 tank with this useless gun (happened today, made me top tank in terms of xp for that match lol). Especially on maps where you can't spot or you have a team that doesn't camp/snipe and only fights close combat. Ohyeah and only ram enemies if you have no way to escape because it's a death sentence even enemy light tanks can ram you to death by touching you.

 

Edited by Squirting_Elephant, 05 March 2019 - 02:07 PM.