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xx_Candlejack_xx #21 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:14 PM

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View PostHaZardeur, on 06 March 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

 

 

Yes why wanna play this game as a new player in your little tank with 50% crew and no equipment vs vets with 3-5 skill crew tanks that have a huge effect on the tanks performance ? 

 

Performance yes, but on armor or penetration values and we all have been new players at somepoint, but we learned to play, didn't we? It is called "learning curve" and when I was younger, games were more harder and unforgiving, but I learned to play them. Is this what peoples these days don't want? Learn to play? Everybody just want everything right now. And what does it matter anyway... Those effects are not that huge. Shaving of couple tenth of a second here and there is more of a marginal effect that can result a head to head battle in your favor, yes... but it doesn't mean that the guy who has a 3 to 5 perk crew can't be killed with straight from the shop/ techtree tank. It's the experience of the players themself that most likely resolves the score of the fight.

CmdRatScabies #22 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:17 PM

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View Postxx_Candlejack_xx, on 06 March 2019 - 06:09 PM, said:

 

How's B2 is a seal clubber?

 

??? :)  Did you really type that?

Renesco #23 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:18 PM

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I was smugly laughing at this thread then I played a match in my Toldi III because my German light crew need some training and a PZ I C clipped me from full health about 60 seconds after the match started. I could not even turn my turret fast enough to fire back I died so fast.

 

Not laughing anymore :izmena:



xx_Candlejack_xx #24 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:19 PM

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View PostObsessive_Compulsive, on 06 March 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

 

B2 is the tank I play when I am so drunk that I am in no way making it upstairs to bed. I still decimate all that come before me in it. It is broken as hell, so much so you even trying to defend it makes your opnion on the 1c a little redundant to say the least.

 

B2 is a pay to win tank if ever there was one it makes the 1c look like it needs a buff.

 

I'm not defending B2 here. I rearly play with it other when I'm drunk or if my friend wanna play with it. I actually bought it when I was drunk and you are right... it is pay to win tank that decimate everything under T4, but it is rather grap on it's own tier.
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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 06 March 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

 

??? :)  Did you really type that?

 

well obviously and I stand by it. Others may think it is and I don't. I still do have the right for my own opinion, right?

AvengerOrion #25 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:22 PM

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I remeber trolling the life out of a Pz 1C on the Himmelsdorf bananaroad in an M3 Lee.

He though he got behind me and emptied 2 clips of premium ammo on my butt.

Because he couldn't get straight behind me, he only had 20% pen chance and only 3 shot actually went through.

While he was wondering/raging why the hell I didn't die I turned around and 2-shot him before he had the chance to get away. :trollface:



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View PostAvengerOrion, on 06 March 2019 - 07:22 PM, said:

I remeber trolling the life out of a Pz 1C on the Himmelsdorf bananaroad in an M3 Lee.

He though he got behind me and emptied 2 clips of premium ammo on my butt.

Because he couldn't get straight behind me, he only had 20% pen chance and only 3 shot actually went through.

While he was wondering/raging why the hell I didn't die I turned around and 2-shot him before he had the chance to get away. :trollface:

 

Killing a Pz.1C makes me smile everytime. :teethhappy:

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View Postxx_Candlejack_xx, on 06 March 2019 - 07:19 PM, said:

 

I still do have the right for my own opinion, right?

 

You know what they say about opinions.  Like assholes; everybody has one.  :)

xx_Candlejack_xx #28 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:40 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 06 March 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

 

You know what they say about opinions.  Like assholes; everybody has one.  :)

 

You're right about that. :great:

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 06 March 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

maybe time to move up from Tier 3 after 12k battles?

 



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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 06 March 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

 

You know what they say about opinions.  Like assholes; everybody has one.  :)

 

Some people have 2.

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View PostObsessive_Compulsive, on 06 March 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

 

Some people have 2.

 

Arty players?

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View PostObsessive_Compulsive, on 06 March 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

 

Some people have 2.

 

I have heard that making someone a new one is a thing, butt never I have actually see anybody to do so. :teethhappy: Also why are we talking buttholes now?

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The "8mm Mauser" is vital to keep the 5% statistic alive. It's also likely implemented wrong. The EW141 is described by multiple sources as a semi-auto gun. It is, of course, also a stupid addition kept mostly for certain players to have a laugh with.

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

View Postxx_Candlejack_xx, on 06 March 2019 - 07:19 PM, said:

 

I'm not defending B2 here. I rearly play with it other when I'm drunk or if my friend wanna play with it. I actually bought it when I was drunk and you are right... it is pay to win tank that decimate everything under T4, but it is rather grap on it's own tier.
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well obviously and I stand by it. Others may think it is and I don't. I still do have the right for my own opinion, right?

 

Honestly a good assessment, and likely how it is intended to be.

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View Postxx_Candlejack_xx, on 06 March 2019 - 01:56 PM, said:

Hi. Would you guys at WG be so kind and nerf the Pz.1C's 8mm mauser penetration to under the 30mm or atleast to 30mm, please. 20mm pen is fine, but 8mm penetration seems unrealistic and it just ruins the all the fun to drive any tank that has armor less then 33mm. I own the Pz.1C myself too, but I'm not using the 8mm MG, because I know how it feels to get raped one of these things and it's even worst when there is multiple Pz.1C's on enemy team.
 
Even with 28-30mm penetration it can still kill arty's, but playing with one would need a bit more skill and thinking.

 

Been awhile since we had a Pz1c topic. So I suspect not many feel the same way.

 

And 20mm pen is fine? Considering how the clip gun gift tanks with a 50cal gun on tier II like the T7CC does vs half the targets there with 27 pen. It doesn't see how that would work one tier up vs 75mm armored tier 4's. As on tier II even an M2 light's side armor can give you issues. As 33 pen can still drop low with a 25% RNG. So it's not like it's clip is 100% effective vs even paper targets. As even a bit of effective armor, and the gun's useless. As even my Gr Tr with its 14mm side armor can bounce almost a full clip if it side scrapes vs that gun. As it lacks caliber to overmatch anything. And half the rounds will low pen roll. It's why you see most of them use 400 rounds and only do damage on 50 of them. It's not like each one you see, even with a 100% gold load gets 400 hits and 370 pen's every game is it?

 

And that same 33 pen gun fought KV-1's at some point with 0% chance to pen even the rear plate with gold. It's about time they had some fun for a bit.



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View PostMeetriX, on 06 March 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

It is not a Mauser and the pen. is historical accurate (close to).

 

Wow that's a huge shell for such a small bullet o.o Bullet must go zoom!



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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 March 2019 - 11:15 PM, said:

 

Been awhile since we had a Pz1c topic. So I suspect not many feel the same way.

 

And 20mm pen is fine? Considering how the clip gun gift tanks with a 50cal gun on tier II like the T7CC does vs half the targets there with 27 pen. It doesn't see how that would work one tier up vs 75mm armored tier 4's. As on tier II even an M2 light's side armor can give you issues. As 33 pen can still drop low with a 25% RNG. So it's not like it's clip is 100% effective vs even paper targets. As even a bit of effective armor, and the gun's useless. As even my Gr Tr with its 14mm side armor can bounce almost a full clip if it side scrapes vs that gun. As it lacks caliber to overmatch anything. And half the rounds will low pen roll. It's why you see most of them use 400 rounds and only do damage on 50 of them. It's not like each one you see, even with a 100% gold load gets 400 hits and 370 pen's every game is it?

 

And that same 33 pen gun fought KV-1's at some point with 0% chance to pen even the rear plate with gold. It's about time they had some fun for a bit.

 

I ment the 20mm gun and it penetration values. My bad... spelling error.

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So is the Pz 1C back to being fun like the old days again?

 

Not been here for a year or so... used to enjoy 3-squad Pz1C and raping da bejessus out of peeps... :child:



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View PostDingIsHere, on 07 March 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

So is the Pz 1C back to being fun like the old days again?

 

Not been here for a year or so... used to enjoy 3-squad Pz1C and raping da bejessus out of peeps... :child:

 

It's fun unless you are at the resieving end of the MG.

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View Postxx_Candlejack_xx, on 07 March 2019 - 11:50 AM, said:

 

It's fun unless you are at the resieving end of the MG.

 

And being on the receiving end of some of the derp guns isn’t fun either, do you think they should be removed.

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View Postjabster, on 07 March 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

 

And being on the receiving end of some of the derp guns isn’t fun either, do you think they should be removed.

 

No, because that dmg is usually the only good thing on those tanks, but if you miss you're dead. I already told why on my 3th. reply.





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