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WN69: the new, true metric of skill that cannot be manipulated

WN69 metric skill #NoStatPadding

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Prowler_DK #41 Posted 07 March 2019 - 03:20 PM

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The mathematically MM in this post is excactly as in the game itself :)

fwhaatpiraat #42 Posted 07 March 2019 - 03:56 PM

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I'm glad to see all these positive reactions regarding WN69 :)

The WN69-value of some players quite surprised me, but that basically shows how easy it was to deceive the metrics that we are all used to.

 

:)



SaintMaddenus #43 Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:26 PM

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Hey I will admit to being thick, I didn't understand this joke for years, but to me it also points out that "God" IS English as this only works in English

 

 

What is the square route of 69.

Eight something  (ate something)



4nt #44 Posted 07 March 2019 - 07:12 PM

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Finally a metric that delivers what it promises

seXikanac #45 Posted 08 March 2019 - 12:02 AM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 06 March 2019 - 10:19 PM, said:

Hi everyone,

 

We all know there are various metrics around that (should) indicate skill in WoT: WN8, winrate, RushRating. However, all of these metrics have their own flaws and could be padded, which make them not trustworthy anymore. For instance, WN8 can be padded by farming damage from the red line, winrate can be padded by platooning and RR can be padded by getting Kamikaze medals. So because of this I figured it was time to create a new metric that is the ultimate indicator of skill. I defined the following requirements:

- The new metric should not be paddable.

- The metric takes into account what year it is: having 3k dpg in tanks in 2013 was a lot more impressive than 3k dpg in 2019. Therefore the metric scales with the year we're in.

- Bots with 0 WN8 (but still a decent-ish winrate) get filtered out.

- The new metric is based on the 'balance-constant'. Such as the speed of light in a vacuum and the gravitational constant. Having such a constant into the formula of the new metric contributes to the precision and trustworthyness of the metric.

 

I decided to call the new metric: WN69, since it is loosely based on WN8 and people are familiar with that metric and its predecessors like WN7. '69' just seems to fit the new metric well, hence 'WN69'. The WN69 for a given player is based on his/her WN8 rating. However, the WN69-formula acts like an adjustment for WN8, that makes the difference between WN8 (paddable) and WN69 (not paddable + filters out bots + takes the year into account).

 

The formula for WN69 is as follows:

All parameters seem kinda straightforward, I think. The term '8' is used because that's what WN69 is based on. What's so smart of the WN69 metric is that it gives an error when you fill in '0' as 'player WN8', since you cannot divide by zero. This way, bots with 0 WN8 won't have a WN69-value. Really neat, I'd say. As said, the balance constant is a kinda strange constant number, apparently the value of this number is: 727,75548859. Only downside (imo) is that it requires some calculations on a calculator.

 

Let's give an example for a player with 1850 WN8:

 

 

What is your WN69? It would be nice if all forumites do their calculation and share their WN69 here so we could discuss it. :)

 

 

 

 

 

What about us that don't care about some ratings?!?

cro001 #46 Posted 08 March 2019 - 12:13 AM

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View PostseXikanac, on 08 March 2019 - 12:02 AM, said:

What about us that don't care about some ratings?!?

 

Everyone needs a bit of 69 in its life. Even if it's just WN.

Baldrickk #47 Posted 08 March 2019 - 12:49 AM

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View PostseXikanac, on 08 March 2019 - 12:02 AM, said:

 

What about us that don't care about some ratings?!?

It's fine,  you score 69.69 just like everyone else.



seXikanac #48 Posted 08 March 2019 - 01:03 AM

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View Postcro001, on 08 March 2019 - 12:13 AM, said:

 

Everyone needs a bit of 69 in its life. Even if it's just WN.

 

View PostBaldrickk, on 08 March 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

It's fine,  you score 69.69 just like everyone else.

 

I'm too old for that, I'm into 76 now :D

Babbet_1 #49 Posted 08 March 2019 - 09:01 AM

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View PostseXikanac, on 08 March 2019 - 01:03 AM, said:

 

 

I'm too old for that, I'm into 76 now :D

 

Hey, leave me out of it, or I'll send Mrs B round to sort you out young man!  :izmena:

Babbet_1 #50 Posted 08 March 2019 - 10:02 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 08 March 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

It's fine,  you score 69.69 just like everyone else.

 

To paraphrase:

"Thanks Brad - that's an awesome top offer, but I think I'll stick with what I've earned."  



Darth_Wo0ps #51 Posted 08 March 2019 - 10:56 AM

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Putting the wn8 in the multiplier and divisor of the equation = 1


 

Well played OP well played :)



OMG_Abaddon #52 Posted 09 March 2019 - 01:22 AM

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My rating was the last 7 decimal digits of Pi.

LordMuffin #53 Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:02 AM

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View PostOMG_Abaddon, on 09 March 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

My rating was the last 7 decimal digits of Pi.

It is rather bold to claim that pi have a finite number of decimals.







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