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kvexis #1 Posted 10 March 2019 - 04:07 PM

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Greetings everyone.

It's my first time when I post on the forum as I really didn't had a reason to but now things have changed a bit and I took the decision to stand up for my fellow E-100 players.

As World of Tanks evolved I've seen many changes and some of them were improving the game and some of them didn't.

 

Today I wanna discuss about E-100 tank which I haven't used for a long time but when I first bought it, it was a beast and a beauty in the same time.

Let's not forget about one of many heavies that appeared in this game as a beast and ended up now as the worst nightmare.

One of the many reasons why I brought this matter in discussion is :

 

Taking in consideration that game evolved and new tanks have been added to this game the E100 tank :

1. Turret,  2.Shell reloading time, 3.Penetration

 

1.Turret - Have been weakened too much in regards to other heavies there is no chance to stand up and push with this tank as your turret takes damage even from tier IX tank.

There is Object 907 which has much greater turret strength and it is a medium, there is T95/FV4201 Chieftain which is also a heavy beast where E100 can never stand up and fight unless using Premium shells.

 

Type 5 Heavy turret :

280/210/200 Armor (front/sides/rear mm)
18 Traverse Speed (deg/s)
400 View Range (m)
36,000 Weight (kg)


E100 turret :

250/150/150 Armor (front/sides/rear mm)
20 Traverse Speed (deg/s)
400 View Range (m)
58,000 Weight(kg)


How is it possible one turret to weight much more than the other and to have less resistance ?

 

From this comparison we can clearly see that Type 5 Heavy - TURRET - has much less weight than E100 - TURRET.

 

From my own perspective weight means much more material used in the turret construction, same thing happens if other kind of material was used in its armor, but it's hard to believe that Germans had that poor materials to use for armors and Chinese had that great materials to use for building up the perfection.

 

2.Reloading time of 16 seconds with BIA and modules for this tanks is too much taking in consideration that we have TWO Loaders.

The comparisons between Maus, Type 5 Heavy and E100 clearly shows that E100 is at the bottom of damage dealers.

 


3. There is no need to bring in discussion that its gun has no penetration at all, the only way to make some damage is to use premium shells otherwise basic shells wouldn't penetrate anything.

 

Please take in consideration my arguments and recheck the statistics as it went too much down in its capability of being a heavy tank...

 

Edited by kvexis, 10 March 2019 - 04:09 PM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #2 Posted 10 March 2019 - 04:20 PM

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*Type 5 is japanese

WindSplitter1 #3 Posted 10 March 2019 - 04:22 PM

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Most E 100 players I come across with (and when I say "most" is really an understatement) are mediocre players.

 

750HP per shot is quite devastating with or without armour.



kvexis #4 Posted 10 March 2019 - 04:35 PM

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View PostRilleta, on 10 March 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

Most E 100 players I come across with (and when I say "most" is really an understatement) are mediocre players.

 

750HP per shot is quite devastating with or without armour.

 

I agree with you if you will penetrate at least 2/3 shoots. You don't deal that damage, there is no penetration against other heavies and some mediums without using premium shells, lets not be against something which can clearly be seen as "The worst nightmare aka E100"

staurinsh #5 Posted 10 March 2019 - 04:36 PM

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About weight, that is a russian logic, like maus had bottom of the hull with 300mm thick armor. This game has lot of this kind of "features", but why bother to fix them if monkeys buy new premium tanks?

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View Poststaurinsh, on 10 March 2019 - 03:36 PM, said:

About weight, that is a russian logic, like maus had bottom of the hull with 300mm thick armor. This game has lot of this kind of "features", but why bother to fix them if monkeys buy new premium tanks?

 

It is partially thanks to those monkeys the game thrives on. If we're going on the Russian logic, take a look at our "supertesters".

staurinsh #7 Posted 11 March 2019 - 02:52 PM

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Just noticed, maus turret weight is 58t as well....

dave_highfive79 #8 Posted 11 March 2019 - 04:55 PM

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Have an E100 on my US account.

 

Don't play it anywhere near as much now, only when I have the patience to do so.

 

If you angle the hull and turret face correctly you can bounce a lot of premium ammo.

 

Id like to see the turret face get buffed to 260mm, and if so, maybe drop the DMG to 650-700



Dava_117 #9 Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:15 PM

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E100 looks fine to me. The armour is not the most reliable around, but do its job.

Reload time is ok for 750 alpha and I have no issue with the penetration at all. I also love the 950 alpha HE I usually spam at hulldown tanks.

 

IMO it just need some small buff to get up to date. Small buffs on side armour (turret mostly), gun handling and maybe accuracy or turret rotation speed. Not much more is needed.

 



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View PostDava_117, on 11 March 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

E100 looks fine to me. The armour is not the most reliable around, but do its job.

Reload time is ok for 750 alpha and I have no issue with the penetration at all. I also love the 950 alpha HE I usually spam at hulldown tanks.

 

IMO it just need some small buff to get up to date. Small buffs on side armour (turret mostly), gun handling and maybe accuracy or turret rotation speed. Not much more is needed.

 

 

+ more standard pen

because in our days "WEAKPOINTS" means 250mm areas...:facepalm:



DantePerez #11 Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:29 PM

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Regret getting the e100. Pretty much forced to spam heat at nearly every heavy i meet & imo you're easily penned. Unless you're top tier , on a good heavy map , you won't bounce that many shots. These days people see e100 and they instantly load gold turning you into a 130 ton paper tank. Cheeks should get buffed to ~ 310 mm when angled properly , but increase the size of the weak spot on top of the turret

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View PostDantePerez, on 11 March 2019 - 05:29 PM, said:

Unless you're top tier

Explain to me how a tier X tank runs into situations where it's not top tier?



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View Postjulian509, on 11 March 2019 - 06:32 PM, said:

Explain to me how a tier X tank runs into situations where it's not top tier?

 

Tier 10 only battles which are extremely common? 

Kartoshkaya #14 Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:45 PM

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Why do you even care about weight ?

MrEdweird #15 Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:46 PM

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It will get buffed.

WG announced it earlier.


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View PostMrEdweird, on 11 March 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

It will get buffed.

WG announced it earlier.

 

Well wargaming has made promises in the past they didn't live up to , but we'll see .. should get buffed this year. 3 months in and no news. Hopefully some information on the buff soon

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View PostDantePerez, on 11 March 2019 - 05:52 PM, said:

 

Well wargaming has made promises in the past they didn't live up to , but we'll see .. should get buffed this year. 3 months in and no news. Hopefully some information on the buff soon

 

Nah, it was a pretty specific thing to say would happen, and it's the first set of many, so clearly it will happen at some point.

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View PostDantePerez, on 11 March 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

 

Tier 10 only battles which are extremely common? 

So it's still top tier then? I don't see any tier 11 or 12 tanks around. 



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View PostDantePerez, on 11 March 2019 - 06:29 PM, said:

Regret getting the e100. Pretty much forced to spam heat at nearly every heavy i meet & imo you're easily penned. Unless you're top tier , on a good heavy map , you won't bounce that many shots. These days people see e100 and they instantly load gold turning you into a 130 ton paper tank. Cheeks should get buffed to ~ 310 mm when angled properly , but increase the size of the weak spot on top of the turret

 

you mean 310 armor when NOT angling just like ruskis

 

310 you already have when you angle it properly...but the problem is that ammo packs 340 pen..

so yes...proper angling skills vs wallet...guess who will win..?



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View PostMrEdweird, on 11 March 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

It will get buffed.

WG announced it earlier.

 

And you believed in that? Oh my... How old you are? 5 years old? 10?




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