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SuedKAT #21 Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:28 PM

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Wait what did I just read, sure the LT-432 is the top dog in terms of LT's that's true but the rest must be baiting/trolling, if anything other LT's should be buffed to match the LT-432 not the other way around, no one in their right mind would call LT's OP.

Edited by SuedKAT, 12 March 2019 - 08:46 PM.


LordMuffin #22 Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:44 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 12 March 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

 

I had the idea in my mind of being able to tickle them under the tracks and the heavies would roll over onto their turret and then allow me to tickle them some more on their bellies. Their aerial would be waving from side to side with the enjoyment. 

Good idea, but I think the rolling over is to strong, maybe just get the heavy tank to get a little bit less accurate. And of course, no damage dealt either.

 

I think we have just found out how to properly balance those overpowered light tanks.

 

If the light tank gets close enough and manages to stick their barrels between the tracks of a heavy tank, the heavy tanks gets a little less accurate.

Balance is done.


Edited by LordMuffin, 12 March 2019 - 08:44 PM.


Noo_Noo #23 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:19 PM

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View PostTijsbeek993, on 12 March 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

 

 

koeti koeti, 

Where is OP light.

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor tickling dog gif

HERE IS OP LIGHT xD

 

Pair of IS7's right there
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View PostLordMuffin, on 12 March 2019 - 08:44 PM, said:

Good idea, but I think the rolling over is to strong, maybe just get the heavy tank to get a little bit less accurate. And of course, no damage dealt either.

 

I think we have just found out how to properly balance those overpowered light tanks.

 

If the light tank gets close enough and manages to stick their barrels between the tracks of a heavy tank, the heavy tanks gets a little less accurate.

Balance is done.

 

 

What if I put my tickle stick up its exhaust?


Edited by Noo_Noo, 12 March 2019 - 09:19 PM.


RamRaid90 #24 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:34 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 12 March 2019 - 08:19 PM, said:

 

 

What if I put my tickle stick up its exhaust?

 

I think you go to prison for that...

Cobra6 #25 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:41 PM

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View PostSlyspy, on 12 March 2019 - 07:26 PM, said:

 

Not sure who you're agreeing with since Steve didn't say that! Not that you are wrong, but you probably don't want him on your band waggon!

 

Well he was talking about the LT-44322323242342 which is a premium and blatantly better then the majority of regular T8 lights.....

 

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Oh sure, they can be OP, but...

 

1. If the enemy team has armored cars and their players are competent, they have an advantage because they can reach advanced positions faster

2. most medium tanks can do the same things LTs do, except they only lose some camo and mobility in exchange for much more armor and/or firepower

3. LT guns are the second-weakest after armored car guns (and armored cars have high pen HE that can cream LTs fast) - the strongest single shot LT gun is the WZ-132-1 one which is a shoddy copy of the 105mm L7 used on most NATO mediums

4. LTs need opportunities to fight dirty (flank, attack distracted targets, raid arty, etc.), hence they need more skill and luck than the other classes

 

tl;dr claiming light tanks are OP is objectively wrong, it is the player's skill and match circumstances that make them dangerous.



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View Postmarklar77, on 12 March 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

The constant focus on buffing light tanks has resulted in Tier 8s such as the LT-432 being able to pen the front of T9 Heavy tanks. (I have the replays to back this up) They also now rival Medium tanks for DPM with the advantages of having lower aim time. Adding increasingly powerful guns to their innate advantages of being faster, smaller and harder to hit with better concealment has resulted in an OP class. Light tanks should be faster and smaller with better concealment but they should not have guns that rival mediums and heavys.

 

I guess this is why people think they should rush and spot and kill everything, because they're so OP. (not)

Tyburn #28 Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:58 PM

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I find this hilarious. I almost exclusively play LT’s and there is no way they are OP. The only way they can be OP (bar a couple of Prem tanks as already mentioned) is by the skill of the player.

I also find it confusing that a lot of people seem to think MT’s do everything a LT does but better. The one crucial thing a LT has over MT’s is camo. If you know what you’re doing Camo is seriously OP!

CyberRage #29 Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:14 PM

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ITT: people not realizing OP is trolling

 

Wheeled Vehicles with improved auto aim, immune to tracking and 100mm pen HE fucked light tanks hard.


Edited by CyberRage, 16 March 2019 - 08:17 PM.


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View Postmarklar77, on 12 March 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

The constant focus on buffing light tanks has resulted in Tier 8s such as the LT-432 being able to pen the front of T9 Heavy tanks. (I have the replays to back this up) They also now rival Medium tanks for DPM with the advantages of having lower aim time. Adding increasingly powerful guns to their innate advantages of being faster, smaller and harder to hit with better concealment has resulted in an OP class. Light tanks should be faster and smaller with better concealment but they should not have guns that rival mediums and heavys.

 

Weakest class combined with the highest skill cap in the game. Tier 8 lights, got up-tiered and got nerfed hard after the introduction of tier X lights, because with the new MM they are weaker and still get the same MM as before,

but, hey, whatever makes your boat flow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ps. you didn't even manage to get Qpranger's approval.



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View Postmarklar77, on 12 March 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

The constant focus on buffing light tanks has resulted in Tier 8s such as the LT-432 being able to pen the front of T9 Heavy tanks. (I have the replays to back this up) They also now rival Medium tanks for DPM with the advantages of having lower aim time. Adding increasingly powerful guns to their innate advantages of being faster, smaller and harder to hit with better concealment has resulted in an OP class. Light tanks should be faster and smaller with better concealment but they should not have guns that rival mediums and heavys.

 

Your forgot one thing. LT-432 has better armor that tier 8 mediums, actually better than most tier 8 heavies. Same for that wheeled EBR or what ever that retard vehicle is called. Pointless even to shoot them. When you hit, it is 90% chance of 0 damage critical hit, (without damaging modules ofc.). You can't even track them. 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostSecret2ndAccount, on 16 March 2019 - 11:12 PM, said:

 

Your forgot one thing. LT-432 has better armor that tier 8 mediums, actually better than most tier 8 heavies. Same for that wheeled EBR or what ever that retard vehicle is called. Pointless even to shoot them. When you hit, it is 90% chance of 0 damage critical hit, (without damaging modules ofc.). You can't even track them. 

 

 

stop talking nonsense, lt432 armor is far from reliable/great. having 1 bounce a game is about all you get. wheeled LT take dmg on near every hit aswell, not taking dmg and only spaced hit (not connecting to hull shot) is somewhat rare. not to mention wheeled LT will bleed alot of speed/turning if you take 1 wheel out already, for every wheel extra down it becomes extremely less mobile

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View Postmarklar77, on 12 March 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

The constant focus on buffing light tanks has resulted in Tier 8s such as the LT-432 being able to pen the front of T9 Heavy tanks. (I have the replays to back this up) They also now rival Medium tanks for DPM with the advantages of having lower aim time. Adding increasingly powerful guns to their innate advantages of being faster, smaller and harder to hit with better concealment has resulted in an OP class. Light tanks should be faster and smaller with better concealment but they should not have guns that rival mediums and heavys.

 

You do realize amx 50 120 is not a true heavy?
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View PostSecret2ndAccount, on 16 March 2019 - 10:12 PM, said:

 

Your forgot one thing. LT-432 has better armor that tier 8 mediums, actually better than most tier 8 heavies. Same for that wheeled EBR or what ever that retard vehicle is called. Pointless even to shoot them. When you hit, it is 90% chance of 0 damage critical hit, (without damaging modules ofc.). You can't even track them. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

looking at bouncing statistics no it's not better. Confirmation bias on your part. You expect a light to have no armor so you remember every time it counces. Yeah lt432 is strong but there are many stronger t8 tanks than it. T44-100, VK1001p, IS3A, IS3, Somua, Lorianne 40T, Defender, Skorpion, su130pm

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LT-432 is basically a medium with a worse gun but better speed and camo on the move, that is why it's doing okay like the T-100.

 

Doesn't match the characteristics of virtually all the other light tanks.



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View Postbaribal_80, on 17 March 2019 - 12:16 AM, said:

 

You do realize amx 50 120 is not a true heavy?
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looking at bouncing statistics no it's not better. Confirmation bias on your part. You expect a light to have no armor so you remember every time it counces. Yeah lt432 is strong but there are many stronger t8 tanks than it. T44-100, VK1001p, IS3A, IS3, Somua, Lorianne 40T, Defender, Skorpion, su130pm

 

I'm not talking about bounces, but penetrations that do no damage (or anything). 

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 12 March 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

 

Surely you sent WG these replays?

 

If it was a Russian heavy tank, that's literally armor hacking.

 

Haha, that was funny and made my day:) !

 



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View PostSecret2ndAccount, on 16 March 2019 - 11:56 PM, said:

 

I'm not talking about bounces, but penetrations that do no damage (or anything). 

 

​Penetrations that do no damage means you hit under the tank. happens to every tank. Aim better.

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View PostCyberRage, on 17 March 2019 - 12:30 AM, said:

LT-432 is basically a medium with a worse gun but better speed and camo on the move, that is why it's doing okay like the T-100.

 

Doesn't match the characteristics of virtually all the other light tanks.

 

The LT432 is essentially the LT that the high tier meta demands - a LT which plays like a medium, the only one truly designed that way and this is why it is better than any other LT at that tier (and possibly higher tiers as well). 

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View PostSlyspy, on 17 March 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

The LT432 is essentially the LT that the high tier meta demands - a LT which plays like a medium, the only one truly designed that way and this is why it is better than any other LT at that tier (and possibly higher tiers as well). 

 

I'd argue ELC EVEN is good at winning too but it's hard work to get results in it while LT feels easy.




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