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Dr_Blackshark #1 Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:41 PM

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So I've had games where i got the ,,new template". All i can say it's overall worse for the bottom tier as it is 4-4-7 for the tp-med-bottom tiers, and 6-9 instead of 5-10.....

I can only hope that they don't think seriously that this is a solution for the mm problem. T8 games will be even worse.


Edited by Dr_Blackshark, 12 March 2019 - 06:49 PM.


arthurwellsley #2 Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:53 PM

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View PostDr_Blackshark, on 12 March 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

So I've had games where i got the ,,new template". All i can say it's overall worse for the bottom tier as it is 4-4-7 for the tp-med-bottom tiers, and 6-9 instead of 5-10.....

I can only hope that they don't think seriously that this is a solution for the mm problem. T8 games will be even worse.

 

Might not be the new template. Presently FL takes alot of tier VIII out of the pool.

Dr_Blackshark #3 Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:59 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 12 March 2019 - 06:53 PM, said:

 

Might not be the new template. Presently FL takes alot of tier VIII out of the pool.

 

I don't think that could effect the template, but that's why i asked.

Edited by Dr_Blackshark, 12 March 2019 - 06:59 PM.


Tijsbeek993 #4 Posted 12 March 2019 - 07:20 PM

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If it is the new templame it scks.

11 battles.
9 loses
2 wins.

9 low tiers.
1 middle tier.
1 same tier.

So it didn't fix anything

fryster_12 #5 Posted 12 March 2019 - 07:38 PM

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New template is now in the game

XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 12 March 2019 - 07:41 PM

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Two words, screw randoms!

 

If their MM can't handle the server population of tier 8 and tier 10 in randoms which is the main mode of this game then let them play it.

 

The game is almost 10 years old, it didn't occur to them that at some point the server population will be top heavy? It didn't occur to them that those shiny tier 8 premiums they keep selling will be the main food for tier 9 and 10?

 

Oh and btw, the new "dynamic templates" in an attempt to relief tier 8 just a little bit will make playing tier 6 even worse!


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 12 March 2019 - 07:44 PM.


bnmm113 #7 Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:07 PM

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As front line is in progress don't complain about MM as irlt is currently royally screwed up..

Dr_Blackshark #8 Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:08 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 12 March 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

Two words, screw randoms!

 

If their MM can't handle the server population of tier 8 and tier 10 in randoms which is the main mode of this game then let them play it.

 

The game is almost 10 years old, it didn't occur to them that at some point the server population will be top heavy? It didn't occur to them that those shiny tier 8 premiums they keep selling will be the main food for tier 9 and 10?

 

Oh and btw, the new "dynamic templates" in an attempt to relief tier 8 just a little bit will make playing tier 6 even worse!

 

Yeah, i had a game where they had a 3 defender platoon+ a vk 100 in a tier 6 game.... :D

CmdRatScabies #9 Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:57 PM

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Surely WG wouldn't test the new MM in Frontlines week?  They can't be that dumb.

gunslingerXXX #10 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:18 PM

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Starting to think fully random MM would be better than any template they think off.

 

For me I just want the average match to be OK. If you have a couple of battles where you are one of the few -2 tanks, so be it. As long as the majority is fine. Being bottom tier more often than not is just dumb (or moneygrab because prammo)



UserZer00 #11 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:49 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 12 March 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Surely WG wouldn't test the new MM in Frontlines week?  They can't be that dumb.

 

We would like to give you the opportunity to withdraw your question.

(Even though there is a high chance of being sarcastic anyway)

 

If the past is any guide, WG seems to take such posts as a challenge. 

 

If they read it I'm sure that not only will the plan heavy testing of the new MM this week, but they will use the statistics gathered and ignore any that may be gathered during non FL weeks.

 

 



ortega456 #12 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:54 PM

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Have only played one game and had the new template. Only played frontline.

However one question to the guys still playing randoms: Did the ratio of beeing top/middle/bottom tier change with the new templates??



Laatikkomafia #13 Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:56 PM

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View Postortega456, on 12 March 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

Have only played one game and had the new template. Only played frontline.

However one question to the guys still playing randoms: Did the ratio of beeing top/middle/bottom tier change with the new templates??

 

The amount of special players has increased. Top tier heavies managing to deal one shot worth of damage, or not even that, is quite common.

LCpl_Jones #14 Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:01 PM

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it's still crap



CmdRatScabies #15 Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:39 PM

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View PostUserZer00, on 12 March 2019 - 09:49 PM, said:

 

We would like to give you the opportunity to withdraw your question.

(Even though there is a high chance of being sarcastic anyway)

 

If the past is any guide, WG seems to take such posts as a challenge.

 

If they read it I'm sure that not only will the plan heavy testing of the new MM this week, but they will use the statistics gathered and ignore any that may be gathered during non FL weeks.

 

 

 

Let's hope it's part of a stress test & that "normal" will be tested sometime next week.

UserZer00 #16 Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:47 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 12 March 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

 

Let's hope it's part of a stress test & that "normal" will be tested sometime next week.

 

So far my experience in Randoms with FL ongoing has been positive.  Matches have been either +1/-1 or same tier. 

 

Too few games to really make it statistically accurate, but it's been a lot more relaxing than non FL week play.

 

I've been playing mostly tier VII and VIII and have yet to see a tier X tank.  Makes me think if it might be a good idea for them to try and make MM more prone to group tier XI / X and keep them mostly out of the tier VIII matches.

 

Of course, then they'd say that they lose the benefit of being tier XI and X since they won't be able to farm tier VIII.   Maybe as an incentive they could make it so there can only be a max of one arty per match if it's all tier XI and X?

 

One things for sure, no solution will make everyone happy.



8126Jakobsson #17 Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:15 PM

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Played six tier 8 randoms

 

One +1

One -1

Four 0

 

Keep it like that kthx



LordMuffin #18 Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:21 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 12 March 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

The amount of special players has increased. Top tier heavies managing to deal one shot worth of damage, or not even that, is quite common.

But that is because they play for team, they don't play for stets, they are not try-harding no-lifing basement dwellers, they have a family, they have a job etc.

 

Which also mean, if you manage to do 2 or more shots of damage in a game, you are of course everything mentioned above.

 

Because that is how WoT works.

 

Btw, this is just the typical response you get when pointing out to a person who whined about the team being noobs entire game while doing 1 shot of damage as a top tier heavy, and is thus not my own opinion. 


Edited by LordMuffin, 12 March 2019 - 11:22 PM.


KarmaMint #19 Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:25 PM

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Haven't seen any T10 games today

Balc0ra #20 Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:53 PM

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View PostTijsbeek993, on 12 March 2019 - 07:20 PM, said:

If it is the new templame it scks.
So it didn't fix anything

 

And what template would let you win more? Thing is that FL is on going. So 90% of the tier 8's are there. So tier 8 in randoms now won't be better either way. And how often you get top tier etc is more on tier population then the MM at times... Keyword here was at times. As the last time FL was on, tier 8 had +2 games or a small dose of equal tier games in randoms more or less constantly vs top tiers etc. As there were hardly any tier 8 to take from.  

 

 

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 12 March 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

Two words, screw randoms!

 

If their MM can't handle the server population of tier 8 and tier 10 in randoms which is the main mode of this game then let them play it.

 

For tier 8 MM I suspect FL is affecting it. Be it good or bad with the new templates remains to be seen once FL is over and the tier 8 population in randoms goes back to normal. But tbh... I suspect it won't make a lick of difference if tier 9 and X outpopulates tier 8 as is. 







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