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Suggestion Poll T95E2 rebalace buff IS-5

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Poll: What do you think about these suggestions? (19 members have cast votes)

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The IS-5 suggestions

  1. The IS-5 is good now, no need for these! (5 votes [26.32%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  2. The IS-5 isn't a good tank. I support the suggestions! (13 votes [68.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 68.42%

  3. I have other suggestions, I'm writing a comment. (1 vote [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

The T95E2 suggestions.

  1. The T95E2 is good now, no need for these! (4 votes [21.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  2. The T95E2 isn't a good tank. I support the suggestions! (15 votes [78.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 78.95%

  3. I have other suggestions, I'm writing a comment. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Nortonor #1 Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:43 PM

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Quote from the lastest Developer Q&A

When will WG start fixing serious problems in the game, like MM and tank balancing?

We are currently working on the Matchmaker as it was already announced, and we will have more news soon. Tank balance is done as needed and based on player feedback too.

 

So you said "Tank balance is done as needed and based on player feedback too." Okay, just let me to try it.

 

We have some old and outdated tier 8 premium/special tanks, and now I'm just mention two of them.

 

IS-5 (Object 730)

 

The good old IS-5.  It was an unique and iconic CW reward tank before the big tier 8 premium dumping in 2015-2016. But nowdays it's completely an underpowered and forgotten tank. The old IS-3A used the same gun, but now the IS-3A is buffed with the autolader system, and this tank stayed alone with this normal gun. Historically the IS-5 was a T-10 (former IS-8) prototype, but ingame it's seems like a nerfed IS-3 with a stock T-10 skin. So why not it will be balance to a tier 8 version of the T-10? I have some idea how to bring back this tank to life.

 

On the one hand: The T-10s armor is almost the same. It's not bad if you have enough mobility. The IS-5 now can reach the 42 km/h max speed, and can 14 km/h to reverse. So mediocre armor and mediocre mobility is not okay. Although the IS-5 is "faster" than normal IS-3 if you just see the max speed parameter, but the terrain resist of the IS-5 is worse than IS-3 and T-10. If the IS-5 get better terrain resist (like T-10), and a 48 km/h top speed, its will be a much better tank.

 

On the other hand: The gun. Worse penetration, dispersion and soft stats than the IS-3 and Defender. This is a mobile heavy. This gun parameters ruin it. Give him better soft stats (like IS-3 or the T-10, in moving and after fireing too) and better dispersion (for example 0,37 m/100m). The standard APCR ammo... Its not a good choice in this tank. The lower penetration with this APCR is more lower in parctice. Give him normal AP rounds!

 

TL: DR: The IS-5 now is a bad copypasta of the IS-3. Give him better mobility, and better gun to compare brother T-10.

 

T95E2

 

Another unique tank, what is completely useless and pointless now. I have two problem with it: the penetration, and the reward tank status.

Its not a big thing. Nowdays the 181 mm penetration is a joke for a tier 8 medium tank. Give him 192 or 202 mm AP penetration just like the Kr Patton and the SP, and it will be a much better tank. And the reward status: this is the only tier 8 reward vehichle... Give him a real premium status with premium tank credit multipler!

 

What do you think guys about these tanks? Please comment below and vote the polls!

 

 



Dragos_CS #2 Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:55 PM

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All is5 needs to be decent tank is gun handling. The good old tier 8 chieftain needs some loving as well.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:01 PM

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Buffing the gun handling and dispersion on the IS-5 while having worse mobility than the IS-3 is a good choice IMO.

 

The T59E2 is the same as many tier 8 mediums, most of them need penetration and DPM buffs.



pihip #4 Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:05 PM

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Imho all that IS-5 needs is better gun handling, I saw the thing in action when it was not uncommon to see one, and usually it never failed to perform well (then again it IS a clanwar reward tank, so mostly good players have it).



pallie_the_artillerist #5 Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:10 PM

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All the IS-5 needs is gun handling similar to the IS-3 and we're gucci.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:30 PM

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View PostNortonor, on 22 March 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

Another unique tank, what is completely useless and pointless now

 

Now? Was it ever valid? It was bad from day one.

 

T69 kinda works with that same pen as he has burst damage at least. Tho since the T26E4 got a massive pen buff, and has pref MM. We can only hope it's a sign of things to come for the rest of the US 90mm guns on tier 8. Tho something tells me they are holding it back for the "special ammo" rebalance vs doing it now.

 

T26E4 was one of the pref MM tanks that still worked. As he still had more pen then the IS-6 etc as is. As he has seen a few pen buffs as is. But even before he had more pen then the T95E2 that faced +2. So why they thought he needed it and not the E2? Who knows. 

 

 

 

 



DeadLecter #7 Posted 22 March 2019 - 02:00 PM

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Dude, there are tier 10 tanks that WG refuses to buff and their excuse is there is not enough data, even though the tank is played by hundreds of people. Now IS-5 is super super rare in randoms I don't think I have seen IS-5 more than 5~6 times in my whole 20k+ battles. I can't imagine a single scenario where WG would touch that tank. Still it's from USSR so WG might have a change of heart but I'd say there is a 1 in billion shot that WG would even consider buffing IS-5.

Balc0ra #8 Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:08 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 22 March 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

Dude, there are tier 10 tanks that WG refuses to buff and their excuse is there is not enough data, even though the tank is played by hundreds of people.

 

Thing is that buffs is more on how it performs on RU then what we think about it on EU. It's why the IS-3 got a buff back in the day. It had the worst tier 8 HT WR on RU "45%", while it sat on a 50% on EU. And here it had a bad effect on it vs RU back in the day. 



Cobra6 #9 Posted 22 March 2019 - 04:20 PM

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IS-5 needs gun handling increased drastically.

Chieftain/T95 needs the cupola up-armoured to at least 180 armor flat + penetration buff to 220.

 

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #10 Posted 22 March 2019 - 04:30 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 March 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

 

Thing is that buffs is more on how it performs on RU then what we think about it on EU. It's why the IS-3 got a buff back in the day. It had the worst tier 8 HT WR on RU "45%", while it sat on a 50% on EU. And here it had a bad effect on it vs RU back in the day. 

 

Any data to back up this drivel? as currently the IS-3 has similar win rate on both clusters. Shouldn't the win rate rise accordingly in the EU cluster because of the buffs???

 

Looking further into similar tanks stats, the IS-6 which is one of the oldest premiums also has similar win rate in both clusters. More recent USSR heavies like the defender or the IS-M are also the same!


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 22 March 2019 - 04:44 PM.


Balc0ra #11 Posted 22 March 2019 - 05:06 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 22 March 2019 - 04:30 PM, said:

 

Any data to back up this drivel? as currently the IS-3 has similar win rate on both clusters. Shouldn't the win rate rise accordingly in the EU cluster because of the buffs???

 

It was more or less 4 years ago by a quick google search. So time for it to move up. 45% was not 100% accurate. But it was not far off. As it was pointed out as the reason for it's buff when the EU rage set in. As after the buff, the IS-3 became more popular on RU, and still is. As it has 3x more battles played then the 2nd most played tier 8 on RU the past 4 weeks.  



XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 22 March 2019 - 05:14 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 March 2019 - 06:06 PM, said:

 

It was more or less 4 years ago by a quick google search. So time for it to move up. 45% was not 100% accurate. But it was not far off. As it was pointed out as the reason for it's buff when the EU rage set in. As after the buff, the IS-3 became more popular on RU, and still is. As it has 3x more battles played then the 2nd most played tier 8 on RU the past 4 weeks.  

 

So none.

 

Good to know!



scouse_in_the_house #13 Posted 22 March 2019 - 05:59 PM

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IS-5 needs either gun handling like the IS-3 instead of the arty gun handling it has, or an autoreloader like is3a.  Just being able to hit something outside of facehug would help.  Down with the t32 and that French junk for worst tier 8 heavy.

Grimdope #14 Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:44 PM

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Either better mobility or gun handling to the IS-3s level should be fine for the IS-5, it would still have worse armour and mobility but no longer a pile of junk. Mine has been in my garage for years and has a handful games, its too frustrating to play, even the defenders gun aims better.

pauloPNS #15 Posted 28 May 2019 - 04:29 PM

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Isn't the chimera also a tier 8 "reward" tank?

demon_tank #16 Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:12 PM

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I own both WG plez buff.

ValkyrionX #17 Posted 28 May 2019 - 11:45 PM

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first of all the wg should make these tanks [is5-kv4 krev-t95/chieftain-t95e2] available again as prize tanks

then let's talk about their buff ...

it is absurd that they are no longer introduced as a reward for any modality [fl mode?] or for the cw tier 8..I find it really absurd


Edited by ValkyrionX, 28 May 2019 - 11:45 PM.






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