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Jagdtiger's top gun's trollish nature - why?

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lnfernaI #1 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:47 AM

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I have several times considered moving back to ''stock'' gun, because of it's higher DPM, and because the top gun just keeps trolling with it's accuracy on a 6 skill crew with food,regardless of shell type. 

This doesn't make any sense. Anyone else has similar issues?



Hellfoxe #2 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:55 AM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 March 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

I have several times considered moving back to ''stock'' gun, because of it's higher DPM, and because the top gun just keeps trolling with it's accuracy on a 6 skill crew with food,regardless of shell type. 

This doesn't make any sense. Anyone else has similar issues?

 

Try us special ammo otherwise they nerf all tanks except for the Soviet version during a small update. 60 tp don't pen anyting either in tier x 1vs1 battle. It only works against lower tiers.

Laatikkomafia #3 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:59 AM

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The gun itself isn't the issue.

 

The platform is.



Eaglax #4 Posted 24 March 2019 - 01:10 PM

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why do you think the stock gun has higher DPM? The DPM is actually worse... only the reload is  ~0.5 seconds faster, but I don't know why you would sacrifice the bigger alpha damage and the better pen for that..

AvengerOrion #5 Posted 24 March 2019 - 02:07 PM

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L55:

Faster reload

Unnoticeable increase of mobility due to a lighter gun.

 

L66:

Faster ammo

Accuracy

Penetration

DPM

 

L55? HELL NO!


Edited by AvengerOrion, 24 March 2019 - 02:08 PM.


Baldrickk #6 Posted 24 March 2019 - 02:27 PM

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I've always found it quite reliable

DeadLecter #7 Posted 24 March 2019 - 03:59 PM

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It's German. Can't have a decent German tank in a Russian game now, can you?

lnfernaI #8 Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:23 PM

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View PostEaglax, on 24 March 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

why do you think the stock gun has higher DPM? The DPM is actually worse... only the reload is  ~0.5 seconds faster, but I don't know why you would sacrifice the bigger alpha damage and the better pen for that..

 

Because that gun didn't troll me when I was still on JP2.

And this gun trolls me when I'm outside of Wafflepanzer.

 

the pen isn't an issue. If I have to,I will go full spec ammo with no regrets.

 

View PostAvengerOrion, on 24 March 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

L66:

Faster ammo

Accuracy

1.Called velocity.

2. Is it though?

 

View PostBaldrickk, on 24 March 2019 - 03:27 PM, said:

I've always found it quite reliable

Then why does it not troll you,if you do not make blood sacrifices to SerB?

 

View PostDeadLecter, on 24 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

It's German. Can't have a decent German tank in a Russian game now, can you?

 

It's not Russian. Can one of you once get this right?

DeadLecter #9 Posted 24 March 2019 - 07:30 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 March 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

It's not Russian. Can one of you once get this right?

Ok a Belarusian company. What's it matter really? USSR bias is 100 real in this game everyone who has played against USSR tanks knows it. Now Russian or Belarusian who cares? It's all the same hellhole.



fwhaatpiraat #10 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:01 PM

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JT top gun is among the best guns in the game, I see no reason to play it with the stock gun. Don't be sniping from 500 meters distance.

RenamedUser_50080245721 #11 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:06 PM

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And the highest pen of any T9 tank and lower in the game when you press 2 (as will the JgE100 after this).

lnfernaI #12 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:36 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 24 March 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

JT top gun is among the best guns in the game, I see no reason to play it with the stock gun. Don't be sniping from 500 meters distance.

 

Then why does it miss 67% of shots? And no,don't be silly,I don't snipe from 500m.

Most shots go into the ground,in some crappy spaced armor,or just do not penetrate at all,even with spec ammo,because the gun's dispersion and RNG forced the shell to land at some extremely angled piece of armor.

 

I never had these issues on Wafflepanzer,and the gun is literally the same.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #13 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:42 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 March 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

Then why does it miss 67% of shots? And no,don't be silly,I don't snipe from 500m.

Most shots go into the ground,in some crappy spaced armor,or just do not penetrate at all,even with spec ammo,because the gun's dispersion and RNG forced the shell to land at some extremely angled piece of armor.

 

I never had these issues on Wafflepanzer,and the gun is literally the same.

 

If by issues you mean the gun being a temperamental little "lady" with a mind of its own and refusing to snap the easiest shots then no. I had some trouble with the WT being like that somethimes, maybe you could post some replays to try and find the problem!

fwhaatpiraat #14 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:55 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 March 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

 

Then why does it miss 67% of shots? And no,don't be silly,I don't snipe from 500m.

Most shots go into the ground,in some crappy spaced armor,or just do not penetrate at all,even with spec ammo,because the gun's dispersion and RNG forced the shell to land at some extremely angled piece of armor.

 

I never had these issues on Wafflepanzer,and the gun is literally the same.

I really doubt you miss 67% of your shots.



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I like its gun! As one of our friend says.. there is not much room for slow tanks!

Baldrickk #16 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:38 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 March 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

Then why does it not troll you,if you do not make blood sacrifices to SerB?

He knows too much. He's next. 



CyberRage #17 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:43 PM

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German Accuracy™

lnfernaI #18 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:59 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 March 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

If by issues you mean the gun being a temperamental little "lady" with a mind of its own and refusing to snap the easiest shots then no. I had some trouble with the WT being like that somethimes, maybe you could post some replays to try and find the problem!

 

There is no excitement to be found in a replay featuring ultra-slow tank. Trust me. But I do not know the source of the problem. 'Tis the same crew that once sat in the Wafflepanzer,in were I also used food,rammer,GLD/binos and a camo net (I think?). It could be completely RNG.

 

View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 24 March 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

I really doubt you miss 67% of your shots.

 

Okay let's pretend I am vastly exaggerating. But you get my point.

 

View PostCyberRage, on 24 March 2019 - 11:43 PM, said:

German Accuracy™

 

And I snipe weakspots in my K-91. Ironic,isn't it?

Hammerhead20 #19 Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:49 AM

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Yup. Sometimes I really hate this gun.

 

Shells traveling completely not there where I was aiming, weird bounces from the side of the tanks...

 

But still, top gun is a "beast" with that decent reload time, alpha damage and penetration.






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