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Potato_Power #1 Posted 24 March 2019 - 03:28 PM

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I asked this but Il ask again even if it gets criticism again.

 

So lets start like this first, ELC AMX is I think the most unique tank in the game, and for me most fun, actually if I had to pick from all games all the playable "characters" I would pick ELC AMX, its just so perfect for me. But then the update came.

 

Today you dont see a single youtube video about a epic game about the ELC, guess why, many people stopped playng (atleast me) guess why.

 

EDIT: Proposall, if its the money Im willing to pay for a premium ELC AMX, would be epic if it was tier 6 (sugestion from Darqutsc)

 

The exact reason why I can explane but I think we can all agree that it was more fun before. Before you felt like you fight vs unbeatable titans and that you need to play smart, now you play vs tutorial players. Not rewarding at all.


Edited by Potato_Power, 25 March 2019 - 09:37 AM.


vasilinhorulezz #2 Posted 24 March 2019 - 03:41 PM

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I think that the tank that got affected the most and lost it's uniqueness is the VK 28.01, ELC got some numbers changed mostly, the game-style stayed give or take the same.

Potato_Power #3 Posted 24 March 2019 - 03:57 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 24 March 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

I think that the tank that got affected the most and lost it's uniqueness is the VK 28.01, ELC got some numbers changed mostly, the game-style stayed give or take the same.

 

Well in short we got something no one asked for, ELC might have just numbers tweaked but if you drive slower thats not just numbers to me, damage is numbers to me.

And that you fight tutorial battles you feel like its not worth your time, idk about the "VK 28.01" never played him :/



PervyPastryPuffer #4 Posted 24 March 2019 - 04:14 PM

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I will always remember the glorious golden days of the ELC...

 

 



Draqutsc #5 Posted 24 March 2019 - 04:19 PM

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If they sold the old elc amx with the old stats as a tier 6 premium tank, i would buy it.

I think a lot of old elc players share the same opinion.


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Potato_Power #6 Posted 24 March 2019 - 04:21 PM

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View PostDraqutsc, on 24 March 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

If they sold the old elc amx with the old stats as a tier 6 premium tank, i would buy it.

I think a lot of old elc players share the same opinion.

 

Especially if you can transfer your crew there

MeetriX #7 Posted 24 March 2019 - 04:29 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 24 March 2019 - 03:41 PM, said:

I think that the tank that got affected the most and lost it's uniqueness is the VK 28.01, ELC got some numbers changed mostly, the game-style stayed give or take the same.

 

VK got a nerf. ELC got a death blow.

Bordhaw #8 Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:07 PM

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View PostPotato_Power, on 24 March 2019 - 02:28 PM, said:

I asked this but Il ask again even if it gets criticism again.

 

So lets start like this first, ELC AMX is I think the most unique tank in the game, and for me most fun, actually if I had to pick from all games all the playable "characters" I would pick ELC AMX, its just so perfect for me. But then the update came.

 

Today you dont see a single youtube video about a epic game about the ELC, guess why, many people stopped playng (atleast me) guess why.

 

My proposal was to make ELC a tier 6 tank and give old stats back, this would actually not just fix but improove things bcs you can play ranked games with him.

 

The exact reason why I can explane but I think we can all agree that it was more fun before. Before you felt like you fight vs unbeatable titans and that you need to play smart, now you play vs tutorial players. Not rewarding at all.

 



lnfernaI #9 Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:51 PM

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It's mobility is butchered. Everything hits you at 200m distance. I couldn't stand it.

satakuua #10 Posted 24 March 2019 - 06:16 PM

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While I am annoyed the top gun lost its edge, I can live with it. But the mobility nerf I never understood.

Jamadeus #11 Posted 24 March 2019 - 06:42 PM

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I'm currently playing it for access to the wheelies. It makes me very sad.

I always remember chasing one down from the windmill hill on (old) Erlenberg. As soon as he reloaded, he handbraked turned and obliterated me.



Tyburn #12 Posted 24 March 2019 - 07:40 PM

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Totally agree with most of the above. So sad. Was such a fun tank. OP obviously but needed skill to play well.

Now it’s just the same as all the other LT’s in its tier.

+1 to spending actual money (WG!?) if they made it a tier 6 prem tank with all its old stats.

baribal_80 #13 Posted 24 March 2019 - 07:56 PM

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It's still a good tank. Annoying as hell to play but it still can carry like a monster

gunslingerXXX #14 Posted 24 March 2019 - 08:09 PM

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View PostDraqutsc, on 24 March 2019 - 04:19 PM, said:

If they sold the old elc amx with the old stats as a tier 6 premium tank, i would buy it.

I think a lot of old elc players share the same opinion.

 

definitely

LordMuffin #15 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:11 PM

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WG also butchered the 59-16 in the light remake.
And the SPIC.
And the M41 Bulldog.
And the WZ-131 (T7 Chinese light).
Apart from VK16.02 and ELC AMX.

But they did of course buff all premium light tanks, either directly (giving a V.stab to Type 64 for example) or indirectly by making them see weaker tanks.

lnfernaI #16 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:29 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 24 March 2019 - 10:11 PM, said:


And the M41 Bulldog.
 

Let's be honest, the Bulldog's autoloader was OP,even after it's reload nerf.



MeetriX #17 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:28 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 24 March 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

...
And the WZ-131 (T7 Chinese light).


But they did of course buff all premium light tanks, either directly (giving a V.stab to Type 64 for example) or indirectly by making them see weaker tanks.

How good that was before? :ohmy:

I'm grinding it and like it a lot.



baribal_80 #18 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:31 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 24 March 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

WG also butchered the 59-16 in the light remake.
And the SPIC.
And the M41 Bulldog.
And the WZ-131 (T7 Chinese light).
Apart from VK16.02 and ELC AMX.

But they did of course buff all premium light tanks, either directly (giving a V.stab to Type 64 for example) or indirectly by making them see weaker tanks.

 

I think this is a common misconception. Many of those tanks are still strong since yeah they are much worse but they got much better MM. Wz131 and SPIC are good. M41 is bad but on the other hand t71 is OP as crap. ELC AMX is balanced, just not fun to play. 
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View PostMeetriX, on 24 March 2019 - 09:28 PM, said:

How good that was before? :ohmy:

I'm grinding it and like it a lot.

 

It wasn't better. It was just more fun plus people judge those tanks like they weren't dropped a tier. 

Balc0ra #19 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:48 PM

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View PostPotato_Power, on 24 March 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

Today you dont see a single youtube video about a epic game about the ELC, guess why, many people stopped playng (atleast me) guess why.

 

My proposal was to make ELC a tier 6 tank and give old stats back, this would actually not just fix but improove things bcs you can play ranked games with him.

 

Before it had +5 MM, and it was balanced as such. Aspects it did keep even when it got +3 MM. And then any good game was a feat. Now with +2, it's like any other light. Thus you don't hear much about it anymore. Even when you do get a good game in it. 

 

Tier 6 with the old stats? Well in terms of mobility sure. As that's basically the same as when it had +3. Gun? Not so much. Now there are 17 pounders on tier 6 with close to the old pen etc. So 170 ish can still work. But gold needs to be toned down a bit... as it had 256mm pen before. I suspect 192 ish would be enough.

 

Tbh I'm happy with it as a tier 5. But you can kinda see why they did nerf the mobility a bit. As it doesn't need to run from tier X BC's anymore. But something between the old and where it is now is not too much to ask in terms of mobility tbh. Nor will it break it on its current tier. As you could say the same about the Crusader, even as a med.



lnfernaI #20 Posted 25 March 2019 - 12:37 AM

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^That's because Crusader IS a med. They just removed that silly camo on the move bonus.





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