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seXikanac #1 Posted 28 March 2019 - 11:32 AM

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I have stock one and one with 700 dmg, but second one don't make much damage from what I have seen. Since I have only 1 battle with the O-Ni, what gun would you suggest that I use?

pallie_the_artillerist #2 Posted 28 March 2019 - 11:40 AM

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I don't know man, they all seem to suck. I simply can't do well in this tank :S

Balc0ra #3 Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:04 PM

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I ran 100% 15cm on mine back in the day. Same on the tier 8. But back then the tier 8 had no gold ammo option on the top gun, only the 215 AP shell that was fine as top tier, but terrible in a +2 game vs the hordes of Type 4's back then.

 

That and both the 10cm guns have one issue that could be nasty. One has 175 AP pen, and 201 gold pen. The other with 190 AP pen, and 215 gold pen. That's more then enough as top tier. But with all the armor on tier 8 of late, and in a +2 game. That's not gonna be enough on the HT lane vs all the Defenders, Type 4's, VK 100.01's. Patriots, the new hull down French HT's and the 705 line. As 175 pen and 201 gold pen will only get you that far fighting head on vs targets on the HT lane then.

 

That and the top gun on the O-Ni is unique to the O-Ni. When you get the tier 8 O-Ho. He will have the same two stock guns as the O-Ni. Then it's derp or the 175/201 pen gun vs tier X targets. So again.. you run derp. As 150 damage vs a Maus is better then no damage. As flanking fire is not always gonna be a luxury on the HT lanes with your mobility. 



seXikanac #4 Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:21 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 March 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

I ran 100% 15cm on mine back in the day. Same on the tier 8. But back then the tier 8 had no gold ammo option on the top gun, only the 215 AP shell that was fine as top tier, but terrible in a +2 game vs the hordes of Type 4's back then.

 

That and both the 10cm guns have one issue that could be nasty. One has 175 AP pen, and 201 gold pen. The other with 190 AP pen, and 215 gold pen. That's more then enough as top tier. But with all the armor on tier 8 of late, and in a +2 game. That's not gonna be enough on the HT lane vs all the Defenders, Type 4's, VK 100.01's. Patriots, the new hull down French HT's and the 705 line. As 175 pen and 201 gold pen will only get you that far fighting head on vs targets on the HT lane then.

 

That and the top gun on the O-Ni is unique to the O-Ni. When you get the tier 8 O-Ho. He will have the same two stock guns as the O-Ni. Then it's derp or the 175/201 pen gun vs tier X targets. So again.. you run derp. As 150 damage vs a Maus is better then no damage. As flanking fire is not always gonna be a luxury on the HT lanes with your mobility. 

 

Huh, so why is everybody crying against Jap HTs?

baribal_80 #5 Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:26 PM

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View PostseXikanac, on 28 March 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

Huh, so why is everybody crying against Jap HTs?

 

Because they are imbalanced. Not only their armor has no weakspots so you either have enough pen or not and aiming doesn't help but also their HE guns ignore armor. They are tanks for unskilled play. Also the t10 jap heavy is op. 

 

Also you do realize the low alpha gun has more penetration? Since you seem to be only talking about damage


Edited by baribal_80, 28 March 2019 - 12:26 PM.


Mav75 #6 Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:31 PM

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I used nothing but the derp. 

domikw #7 Posted 28 March 2019 - 01:09 PM

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Use troll gun only otherwise you'll be useless against higher tiers. Of course try to hit places with thiner armor, not turrets (if possible) - you'll cause higher damage. If you have heavy armored opponent on an open space, shoot UNDER the tank. All of the heavies have thin floors so splash will do the rest.

 

Remember that all japanese HT's armor is solid ONLY against usual shells. Premium one will change you into razor blades quite fast so try to take advantage of walls, houses and wrecks if you play against higher tiers.


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facmanpob #8 Posted 28 March 2019 - 01:15 PM

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Surely you should be firing HE out of the 15cm howitzer? Isn't that the only way to play the O-Ni?

Balc0ra #9 Posted 28 March 2019 - 01:20 PM

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View PostseXikanac, on 28 March 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

Huh, so why is everybody crying against Jap HTs?

 

Armor and HE derp for the most part. Gotta remember that when the line was new the rage was on the tier 5 and 6. As the tier 7+ were mostly trash. The tier 8 had no gold ammo, the tier 9 and X had no derp guns. And way more armor. So the Type 4's top gun could not even pen itself head-on on the "weaker" drivers hatches and MG ports etc. So facing a fellow Type 4 back then was interesting. But the tier 5 Jap had a massive gun that could kill even a tier 6 in 2 hit's. And the ROF was not slow either. As it was a compensation for the bad pen. But everyone ran gold AP on it anyway. 

 

Until the Derp with the JagpzE100 HE as gold ammo was added to the tier 9 and X, gold ammo added to the tier 8 and the tier 5 was nerfed to the ground. The focus went away form the tier 5 and 6. And to tier 8+ instead. Tier 7 is still the same tho. As in trash for the most part and a terrible multi tasker. But great when top tier.



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Derp gun with only HE of course! Brawl and try mainly to shoot under enemy tanks, next to or at the front wheel from inside, that does most damage while still tracking them, or just at the front wheel, lower turret front so the blast goes into the weak hull roof, or just at turret roof depending on what’s available. Don’t bother with the other guns, as you don’t have the armour to sit and aim for ages while brawling. Same goes for O-Ho! That will also prepare you for the play style at tier 9-10.

 

edit: and don’t forget to be as annoying as possible!

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View PostseXikanac, on 28 March 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

Huh, so why is everybody crying against Jap HTs?

Because of the haha-you-think-you-have-armour-lol-now-taste-my-high-explosive-shell!


Edited by SuperOlsson, 28 March 2019 - 01:25 PM.


DeadLecter #11 Posted 28 March 2019 - 01:38 PM

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On that entire line you go with the derp gun except Type 4. On Type 4 I think the non derp gun is better.

Hayton #12 Posted 28 March 2019 - 02:46 PM

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HE only on ON i

_Maginot40 #13 Posted 28 March 2019 - 03:23 PM

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I used the one that is not the DERP gun. Cant remember the name of it. THe "real" tank gun. O-Ni was really good with that one.

 

O-Ni, O-Ho and Type 4 is better without the HE/DERP guns. Use the real tank guns on those 3. Type 4 DERP is only good if you play in a Type 4 platoon.


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View Post_Maginot40, on 28 March 2019 - 02:23 PM, said:

I used the one that is not the DERP gun. Cant remember the name of it. THe "real" tank gun. O-Ni was really good with that one.

 

O-Ni, O-Ho and Type 4 is better without the HE/DERP guns. Use the real tank guns on those 3. Type 4 DERP is only good if you play in a Type 4 platoon.

 

I absolutely disagree about the O-Ho. You have like a 14-15 Second reload with stupidly decent handling for a derp, and can smack just about anything for 300 Or more regularly. The non-derp is better if you get top tier I think, but being at Tier VIII You might as well expect bottom tier most of the time and being able to smack Tier Xs for 300 Consistently is just memes.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #15 Posted 28 March 2019 - 04:09 PM

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I tried both while grinding the O-Ni as it was the first derp gun to use so i was a bit skeptical. Both work in tier 7 but the 15cm howitzer is more fun and helps when you're bottom tier.

 

The AP on this gun is useless but you can use HEAT against some targets to great effect. You shoot mainly HE from this gun and carry a few HEAT rounds for the ~700 surprise against tigers! :)



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View PostseXikanac, on 28 March 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

I have stock one and one with 700 dmg, but second one don't make much damage from what I have seen. Since I have only 1 battle with the O-Ni, what gun would you suggest that I use?

 

Always go for girth.

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 28 March 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

I tried both while grinding the O-Ni as it was the first derp gun to use so i was a bit skeptical. Both work in tier 7 but the 15cm howitzer is more fun and helps when you're bottom tier.

 

The AP on this gun is useless but you can use HEAT against some targets to great effect. You shoot mainly HE from this gun and carry a few HEAT rounds for the ~700 surprise against tigers! :)

 

You can use the AP Now and again for overmatch. Facehugging something like a T29 Can be kinda funny when you can just autopen his roof with it. Mind you, definitely not something I find myself using often.

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 28 March 2019 - 05:53 PM, said:

You can use the AP Now and again for overmatch. Facehugging something like a T29 Can be kinda funny when you can just autopen his roof with it. Mind you, definitely not something I find myself using often.

 

Speaking of face-hugging other tanks, using the 15cm limits the gun depression to 5°~6° across the front while with the 10cm you have almost a perfect 10° over the front of the tank.


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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 28 March 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

 

I absolutely disagree about the O-Ho. You have like a 14-15 Second reload with stupidly decent handling for a derp, and can smack just about anything for 300 Or more regularly. The non-derp is better if you get top tier I think, but being at Tier VIII You might as well expect bottom tier most of the time and being able to smack Tier Xs for 300 Consistently is just memes.

 

After the buff to the normal gun the O-Ho normal is way better than the derp and can hit T10 reliably (with gold). Before it did not have gold ammo, now it does.

vasilinhorulezz #20 Posted 28 March 2019 - 06:39 PM

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Most people use the derp.




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