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wEight_Tanker #1 Posted 30 March 2019 - 08:05 PM

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Nothing much to say about it except that the AP gun won't suck anymore and the DERP gun would be less annoying. Just sayin.

Pataky #2 Posted 30 March 2019 - 08:57 PM

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 30 March 2019 - 08:05 PM, said:

Nothing much to say about it except that the AP gun won't suck anymore and the DERP gun would be less annoying. Just sayin.

 

Hurray, another tanks get killed by WG :D Gj.. and some "kid" is happy because it happen. Jesus.. there was a fun tank, with not OP stats, and lets go kill it.. It is totally useless to touch these tanks. But ok.. the standard ammo still make dmg.. but then, lets give more pen to the gold ammo.. i means 230 pen would be nice. Just because a sigle retard med have that pen value, so why not?

MeNoobTank #3 Posted 30 March 2019 - 09:17 PM

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Yes ! these changes are good but they also need to add some real weakspots to these 2.

_Flagada_Jones_ #4 Posted 30 March 2019 - 09:22 PM

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These change are heavely reetaarded. 

Seriously:

Type 5 15 cm:  900 HE dmg and hesh 750Dmg with 190 pen... WHAT?

E100/TP/705A: 750 AP dmg 250 pen + Heat 750 damage (even nerfed it will be better than the stupid hesh) + HE 900DMG WITH BETTER PEN AND CALIBER. And i did not even talk about: reload, gun handling...

Seriously, i need a job, stop paying people without any knoledge about the tanks in the game.

 

baribal_80 #5 Posted 30 March 2019 - 10:05 PM

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View PostPataky, on 30 March 2019 - 07:57 PM, said:

 

Hurray, another tanks get killed by WG :D Gj.. and some "kid" is happy because it happen. Jesus.. there was a fun tank, with not OP stats, and lets go kill it.. It is totally useless to touch these tanks. But ok.. the standard ammo still make dmg.. but then, lets give more pen to the gold ammo.. i means 230 pen would be nice. Just because a sigle retard med have that pen value, so why not?

 

Sorry but the fact you like it doesn't change the fact it overperformed. WG balance department is finally doing it's job. I don't get why are you even complaining when you don't have it. 

kaneloon #6 Posted 30 March 2019 - 10:18 PM

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Problem is lots of people had fun with it and I was about to buy them.

So it sucks. I'll start playing my 430u full gold to sooth my frustration.



vasilinhorulezz #7 Posted 30 March 2019 - 10:19 PM

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View PostPataky, on 30 March 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

there was a fun tank, with not OP stats, and lets go kill it

 

This is exactly the way memes are born.



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260 AP and 310 gold AP will make the 14cm a competitive option IMO. Everyone is happy and the tank is still viable to play!

wEight_Tanker #9 Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:19 AM

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I don't know how these "kids" are missing the point of this update. Types aren't even that OP. They're more challenging for low tiers and players who can't choose a target and can't aim. Of course you cAn'T pEn tHeM every time, they're huge, easy to hit and need good armor. Also what is their problem with the HESH? It just performs like the regular AP on the 14cm with just a bit more damage and higher chance for crew and module damage. It's not even that great against armored vehicles and is expensive. I'd say more but people would be like "hURrRrR DUrrRrR tHiS gUy lOvEs PlAYiNg JapNaEsE ToNk sO hE SeZ EveRytHonG poSITivE+".

 


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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 31 March 2019 - 01:19 AM, said:

I don't know how these "kids" are missing the point of this update. Types aren't even that OP. They're more challenging for low tiers and players who can't choose a target and can't aim. Of course you cAn'T pEn tHeM every time, they're huge, easy to hit and need good armor. Also what is their problem with the HESH? It just performs like the regular AP on the 14cm with just a bit more damage and higher chance for crew and module damage. It's not even that great against armored vehicles and is expensive. I'd say more but people would be like "hURrRrR DUrrRrR tHiS gUy lOvEs PlAYiNg JapNaEsE ToNk sO hE SeZ EveRytHonG poSITivE+".

 

Opinions of players like you are exactly the types that should not be taken into account when making these changes.

 

Type 5 and 4 are broken garbage tanks that are almost completely idiot-proof. Playing them does not make you better,it makes you turn into a degenerate.



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Keep in mind, guys, that these changes are probably made with the future rebalance of gold ammo having taken into account. That means 570 damage with HEAT on E-100, and an overall ~20% reduction in damage for gold ammo for every tank.

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View PostPataky, on 30 March 2019 - 07:57 PM, said:

 

 there was a fun tank, with not OP stats, 

 

Fun to play maybe, horrible to play against and it is OP -

 

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So the changes are needed, probably more is needed, like nerfs to the armour. 



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View PostPataky, on 30 March 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Hurray, another tanks get killed by WG :D Gj.. and some "kid" is happy because it happen. Jesus.. there was a fun tank, with not OP stats, and lets go kill it.. It is totally useless to touch these tanks. But ok.. the standard ammo still make dmg.. but then, lets give more pen to the gold ammo.. i means 230 pen would be nice. Just because a sigle retard med have that pen value, so why not?

 

There there, you'll find another club to beat seals with. :)

Toni112007 #14 Posted 31 March 2019 - 10:05 AM

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Good. When do they plan to nerf Super Conqueror?

krismorgan #15 Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:06 PM

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Told you they would nerf it before i got there ,50k to go :popcorn:

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View PostBaleent7, on 31 March 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

Keep in mind, guys, that these changes are probably made with the future rebalance of gold ammo having taken into account. That means 570 damage with HEAT on E-100, and an overall ~20% reduction in damage for gold ammo for every tank.

 

Kinda offtopic,but this pretty ironic on the context of SU-100Y's, considering the spec ammo there increases alpha at the expense of less pen...

vasilinhorulezz #17 Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:50 PM

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The AP gun will still suck, and as always WG goes to the wrong direction when it comes to balancing the game.

Type 5 has a flat profile with too much armor, hull weak-spot 250mm effective, commanders hatch 260mm, and one of the most broken guns in the game.

I mean KV2 has a broken gun, but still it has non existed armor, and every time it fires it gets punished severely for it, so WG made the O-I, with pretty much the same gun without the weakness of those said guns.

Then they buff the Type 5 to be almost standard ammo invulnerable, and instead of buffing it's gun to a usable level, they give it a broken (plus PtW) one. Then, what they do? destroy the gun, which was the only reason people started to play the tank, while still failing to address the main problem with it, the over-buffed armor. The super heavy buffs were unnecessary, Maus now cannot be tracked and damaged at the same time, and even when the player angles badly, still you need premium, sorry, I meant special ammo in order to punish. And of course, don't forget a Russian assault gun with super heavy armor and medium tank mobility, or a Russian medium with 300+mm effective armor cupolas, or a tier 8 German super heavy, with a weak-spot that 2/3 of the guns in the tier cannot pen.



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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 30 March 2019 - 11:19 PM, said:

I don't know how these "kids" are missing the point of this update. Types aren't even that OP. They're more challenging for low tiers and players who can't choose a target and can't aim. Of course you cAn'T pEn tHeM every time, they're huge, easy to hit and need good armor. Also what is their problem with the HESH? It just performs like the regular AP on the 14cm with just a bit more damage and higher chance for crew and module damage. It's not even that great against armored vehicles and is expensive. I'd say more but people would be like "hURrRrR DUrrRrR tHiS gUy lOvEs PlAYiNg JapNaEsE ToNk sO hE SeZ EveRytHonG poSITivE+".

 

Sorry data > opinions so you are wrong

 

Also people overexaggerate how easy it is to pen a type. Hull down the spaced part on the turret will absorb heat. If you angle the front will bounce a large % of 340 heat. I'm marking my obj277 and type5 still bounces a lot heat shells.


Edited by baribal_80, 31 March 2019 - 04:34 PM.


hasnainrakha57 #19 Posted 31 March 2019 - 04:40 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 31 March 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

Kinda offtopic,but this pretty ironic on the context of SU-100Y's, considering the spec ammo there increases alpha at the expense of less pen...

 

Not really ironic since it's a bit like brit hesh but without being absorbed by tracks




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