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ortega456 #1 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:08 PM

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Hey guys,

 

I can't get my head around Union-4 for 279e.

You are supposed to bounce 40 shots within 5 games for primary condition.

 

I once managed exactly 39 shots and then got killed. I was lucky in that session because a noob Type 64 shot me in one game about 20 times without penning. After that over 100 games with not even getting half of the bounces. Usually I manage to get glorious 3-5 bounces per game which brings me to around 12-20 bounces per 5 games.

I did such crazy stupid going into open things and not doing damage at all that I am losing it really hard. WTF? HOW and with WHAT tank are you going to finish this [edited]mission?

So far I've used 268v4, Obj. 252, 430U, Obj. 705A, St-1, IS-7, KV-5 and so far the 252 performed best regarding bounces.

 

Anybody tried Su-101? Can it bounce crap?

 

My tactics are:

1. Either go in the open and let lower tiers shoot you => Problem: Really a few open maps, never top tier, gold ammo spam

2. Try to hug lower tiers so that they keep shooting and bouncing you => Lower tiers almost always camp in the back and if you approach or hug them you get flanked and killed within seconds

3. Try to play smart: => Nobody will shoot you, use HE or really high powered Gold rounds.

 

Oh and did I mention Arty? You find yourself in a super good bouncing spot and get killed by 3 focusing arties immediately - happy day.

 

Any advice for a desperate man?

 


Edited by ortega456, 01 April 2019 - 05:11 PM.


S1dew1nder #2 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:22 PM

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lower tier get shot by machine gun tanks?

ortega456 #3 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:27 PM

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View PostS1dew1nder, on 01 April 2019 - 05:22 PM, said:

lower tier get shot by machine gun tanks?

 

Unfortunately you the lowest tier you can get the missions in is tier 8. And even there you see tier 6 in about 1 of 10 games at best.

Noo_Noo #4 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:28 PM

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Try a WV :trollface:

The_Georgian_One #5 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:39 PM

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I think I did this one in 263 and v4, the latter being probably better due to trollish armor. Your strategy is good, you just need more luck or need to play even more recklessly.

S1dew1nder #6 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:43 PM

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View Postortega456, on 01 April 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

Unfortunately you the lowest tier you can get the missions in is tier 8. And even there you see tier 6 in about 1 of 10 games at best.

 

lol i was thinking after i posted that there might be other requirements that would not make that possible obs tier kills that idea, tis odd to have to bounce so many shells in such small game time in a top tier environment imo

 

my other thought would be a restricted mm tank so your still in the right environment but there's a higher chance of meeting lower tiers and you'll never see the top dogs i take it damage isn't a primary factor in the mission again this plan is obs dependant on your selection of tanks and i'm not saying go buy something to complete a in game mission but if you already have one available it might be worth a shot 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:43 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 01 April 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

I think I did this one in 263 and v4, the latter being probably better due to trollish armor. Your strategy is good, you just need more luck or need to play even more recklessly.

 

This, bouncing 40 shots per 5 games in the V4 is manageable.

 

@OP The SU-101 can't do that easily.



ortega456 #8 Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:55 PM

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View PostS1dew1nder, on 01 April 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

lol i was thinking after i posted that there might be other requirements that would not make that possible obs tier kills that idea, tis odd to have to bounce so many shells in such small game time in a top tier environment imo

 

my other thought would be a restricted mm tank so your still in the right environment but there's a higher chance of meeting lower tiers and you'll never see the top dogs i take it damage isn't a primary factor in the mission again this plan is obs dependant on your selection of tanks and i'm not saying go buy something to complete a in game mission but if you already have one available it might be worth a shot 

 

Good Idea. I've tried KV-5. Maybe even gonna try Type 59 and see how it goes.

 

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 April 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

This, bouncing 40 shots per 5 games in the V4 is manageable.

 

@OP The SU-101 can't do that easily.

 

I thought so too but after 40 games with bearly bouncing stuff I am disappointed. The thing is people either don't shoot you or only with gold. Additionally you're easy target for flanking so no luck with this tank for me.

 

I was under the impression that after the last buff su-101 was fairly good bouncing shots...Maybe I'm wrong.

 

With which tanks did you guys finish the mission?



XxKuzkina_MatxX #9 Posted 01 April 2019 - 06:08 PM

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View Postortega456, on 01 April 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

I thought so too but after 40 games with barely bouncing stuff I am disappointed. The thing is people either don't shoot you or only with gold. Additionally you're easy target for flanking so no luck with this tank for me.

 

I was under the impression that after the last buff su-101 was fairly good bouncing shots...Maybe I'm wrong.

 

With which tanks did you guys finish the mission?

 

If you play normally in your 268v4 then you probably won't bounce a lot. I saw you in battle before a couple of times and you're quite aggressive player. I never saw a K-91 driver push a flank, don't get me wrong i love that play style but it won't get the mission done.

 

I finished it on my RU account using the 268v4, a lucky streak of 3-5-7 battles late at night and silly play by me. I just wiggled a lot and shot the ground/tracks without killing my target. Another option will be a PMM tank like the SP.



ortega456 #10 Posted 01 April 2019 - 06:25 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 April 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

 

If you play normally in your 268v4 then you probably won't bounce a lot. I saw you in battle before a couple of times and you're quite aggressive player. I never saw a K-91 driver push a flank, don't get me wrong i love that play style but it won't get the mission done.

 

I finished it on my RU account using the 268v4, a lucky streak of 3-5-7 battles late at night and silly play by me. I just wiggled a lot and shot the ground/tracks without killing my target. Another option will be a PMM tank like the SP.

 

Lol, I hope I didn't rage (though I have my chat turned off) during that mission :-P
Well I think bouncing = armor + distance. I think if I'm too passive nobody will ever shoot/encounter me?  there are often rush-victories or rush-defeats. I think if you stay too passive you lose the chance of getting what you want. Also keep in mind that EVERY GAME there are FV4005s and Type 4/5s with HE where you won't bounce anything so you need to pick your encounters.

 

How would you describe your more passive gameplay regarding bouncing more stuff?



XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 01 April 2019 - 06:46 PM

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View Postortega456, on 01 April 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

Lol, I hope I didn't rage (though I have my chat turned off) during that mission :-P

 

You were on the enemy team but i could tell, from your moves, you were not happy about their positioning. No one on both teams went beach though, always a good sign! :)

 

View Postortega456, on 01 April 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

Well I think bouncing = armor + distance. I think if I'm too passive nobody will ever shoot/encounter me?  there are often rush-victories or rush-defeats. I think if you stay too passive you lose the chance of getting what you want. Also keep in mind that EVERY GAME there are FV4005s and Type 4/5s with HE where you won't bounce anything so you need to pick your encounters.

 

How would you describe your more passive gameplay regarding bouncing more stuff?

 

Stay within the heavy front but don't go too far, no initiative whatsoever. Don't really get involved in the battle.

 

If there are HE/HESH shooting tanks, switch flanks or wait till they fire. Another way is to kill them first but i had limited success with that because of the battle duration.

 

After 2-3 minutes in the battles with most of the enemy team spotted, choose a flank and go sit in front of a tank with weak pen or certain player(s) if you use XVM. Don't kill tanks bouncing you.

 

Keep your distance but make sure you're spotted, after the 6th sense go off start wiggling.

 

I know it's silly play but that's what WG wants!


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 01 April 2019 - 07:05 PM.


DeadLecter #12 Posted 01 April 2019 - 06:56 PM

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Maybe try T9 tanks. They have the best MM. Once you get a decent MM, Sidescrape or go hull down and let the lower tiers just shoot you. but don't shoot back. You don't wanna scare them away.

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I did it with kv-4 and obj 257 wasnt easy though it took me a few days

ortega456 #14 Posted 01 April 2019 - 09:36 PM

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View PostBezbel, on 01 April 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

I did it with kv-4 and obj 257 wasnt easy though it took me a few days

 

I would be happy if I could do it "in a few days"...

View PostDeadLecter, on 01 April 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

Maybe try T9 tanks. They have the best MM. Once you get a decent MM, Sidescrape or go hull down and let the lower tiers just shoot you. but don't shoot back. You don't wanna scare them away.

 

Will try St-1 now again.

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View Postortega456, on 02 April 2019 - 12:06 AM, said:

 

I would be happy if I could do it "in a few days"...

 

Will try St-1 now again.

 

Most of these missions are just pure luck. I have been in situation where I have been shot over 20 times in 1 battle and most of them didn't pen and times when you can't bounce a single shot. Gets more and more frustrating when you focus on doing the mission. Same thing is happening to me with the 260 missions. The thing that drives me crazy is that 90% of what I need to complete the missions is out of my hands. And I have to wait for the MM to put me in the right situation.

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View PostDeadLecter, on 01 April 2019 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

Most of these missions are just pure luck. I have been in situation where I have been shot over 20 times in 1 battle and most of them didn't pen and times when you can't bounce a single shot. Gets more and more frustrating when you focus on doing the mission. Same thing is happening to me with the 260 missions. The thing that drives me crazy is that 90% of what I need to complete the missions is out of my hands. And I have to wait for the MM to put me in the right situation.

 

Exactly. Pure frustration. Lots of other missions make sense but bouncing in "only gold ammo" - meta with quick games is just a reality WG doesn't know about. also with nerfed obj. 268v4 its crazyliy difficult. However I've completed it almost once but maybe gonna wait till april/may, till the MM changes get implemented and you get equal amount of top tier games. Think gonna stop trying for now...Just brings the worst out of me...

 

gl to you guys.



Pandabird #17 Posted 02 April 2019 - 01:38 AM

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Skip all bouncing missions, they are the hardest

Suurpolskija #18 Posted Yesterday, 09:21 PM

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Bouncing missions in 2019... What's the point? 

 

So I'm in this mission where I need to bounce highest amount on my team 10 times. With German tanks. Need to say more? 

 

My highest tier german tank is Mäuschen, I only get tier10 games, obviously, and what happens is I just get premiumed away. I wouldn't mind it if it was something like "bounce 30k dmg over any amount of games", but this is really driving me crazy. It promotes idiotic gameplay that has nothing to do with playing well. Just park somewhere and hope you bounce more than anyone else before dying. Since it's not even required to survive nor win. 

 

Just stupid. Remove these missions. Like. NOW!






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