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VarzA #1 Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:10 PM

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This post just concerns the missions. Marathon goes live on EU server on 5th of April, 11:00.

5th is on a Friday, so it means we will have 2 week-ends, (6th, 7th and 13th, 14th).

 

Rewards are some creds, lots of directives, BIA crew, 10x 2h 50% credit boosters, 10x 2h 200% crew boosters, 5d of premium (stage 5-9), 5x 300 free xp boosters 1h and the tank valued at 9800 gold.

 

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Just the regular missions, t6+.

 

Stage 1 - 4x 250 base xp

Stage 2 - 4500 base xp, top 10 xp.

Stage 3 - 12x top 10 damage on team

Stage 4 - 12000 base xp, top 10 xp.

Stage 5 - 25x 500 damage.

Stage 6 - 20000 base xp, top 10 xp.

Stage 7 - 25x 500 base xp.

Stage 8 - 40x at least 500 damage.

Stage 9 - 30000 base xp, top 10 xp.

Stage 10 - 50x top 10 damage.

 

In total :

- 66 500 base xp; stages 2, 4, 6, 9

- 4x 250 base xp at least games; stage 1.

- 62x top 10 damage games; stages 3, 10

- 65x at least 500 damage games; stages 5, 8

- 25x at least 500 base xp games; stage 7

 

~160 games for the various requirements, and the 66.5k base xp is another 150 games, so we are looking at over 310 games for all stages, in 10d.

Which is about 31 games / day.

 

Most practical method for average player, spam t6's, you can get close to 10 games in 1h.

 

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Unfortunately my t9+ experience is too limited to make an educated guess .... so gonna limit it to this :

 

Stage 1 - 1x 750+ base exp

Stage 2 - 2x top 3 xp, min 550 base

Stage 3 - 3x top 5 damage, 3k damage at least

Stage 4 - 6x 800+ base exp

Stage 5 - 7x 15%+ of total damage amount by team

Stage 6 - 9x destroy 2 vehicles, 3k damage at least

Stage 7 - 12x top 3 xp, min 850 xp base

Stage 8 - 12x top on xp, 3k damage at least

Stage 9 - 12x top on damage, destroy 2 vehicles

Stage 10 - 12x top on xp, min 850 base

 

Not very good at t9+, but Stage 1-6 seem easy for mastery version.

Stage 7 seems somewhat harder.

Stage 8-10 seem hard.

 

 

LLLE: Bundle is out at the usual price, tank is 9800 gold (let's assume 10k gold for ease of calculation).

That means the tank represents about 53-57% of the value of the bundle.

So only if you go pass Stage 4 (completed it), you can get the tank for about the value of the tank + goodies.

Stage 7 represents the tank at half value.

Stage 9 means the bundle at 10% of price, but the tank will be at 20% of the regular tank cost.

 

The above is rough numbers, not super precise, just to give you a general idea (ballpark figure as the americans would say).


Edited by VarzA, 05 April 2019 - 01:21 PM.


pecopad #2 Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:24 PM

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View PostVarzA, on 03 April 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

~160 games for the various requirements, and the 66.5k base xp is another 150 games, so we are looking at over 310 games for all stages, in 10d.

Which is about 31 games / day.

 

Most practical method for average player, spam t6's, you can get close to 10 games in 1h.

 

Yolo feast...that's what was needed...

 

Who designs the marathons???? Competition?


Edited by pecopad, 03 April 2019 - 06:24 PM.


VarzA #3 Posted 03 April 2019 - 07:19 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 03 April 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Yolo feast...that's what was needed...

 

Who designs the marathons???? Competition?

 

I don't know if ppl will yolo, but i plan to.

 

t6 meds/heavies, t7-8 autoloaders ...

I need to grind AMX 50 100 and T54E1 anyway.



CyberRage #4 Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:07 PM

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For most of these objectives pretty much yolospamming fast derps ( m4, iv, derpwell ) with premium ammo seems to be the best option. 2 hits is pretty much gauranteed to be top 10 xp considering the skill of the average pubbie. Back in garage within 5 minutes.

Jumping_Turtle #5 Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:08 PM

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View PostCyberRage, on 03 April 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

For most of these objectives pretty much yolospamming fast derps ( m4, iv, derpwell )

 

Isnt it tier 6 and above ?

DeadLecter #6 Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:08 PM

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Well QB calculated that if you can average 600 XP per battle it will take you approximately 32 hours to get the tank through grind. Compared to 56 hours of EBR marathon, it is a lot lot better and easier, also the requirements to T IX and X are way easier.

TheDrownedApe #7 Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:19 PM

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Briefly looked at the Mastery missions and seems T9 autoloader's are the sweet spot.

OllieCromwell #8 Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:36 PM

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View PostCyberRage, on 03 April 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

For most of these objectives pretty much yolospamming fast derps ( m4, iv, derpwell ) with premium ammo seems to be the best option. 2 hits is pretty much gauranteed to be top 10 xp considering the skill of the average pubbie. Back in garage within 5 minutes.

 

KV1 Derp with 'Special Ammo' could also work.

VarzA #9 Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:03 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 03 April 2019 - 09:08 PM, said:

Well QB calculated that if you can average 600 XP per battle it will take you approximately 32 hours to get the tank through grind. Compared to 56 hours of EBR marathon, it is a lot lot better and easier, also the requirements to T IX and X are way easier.

 

I think he calculated it wrong tbh, because the EBR had more base xp grind than this marathon, but the 310-320 battles is probably what will be needed in the end anyway.

Edited by VarzA, 03 April 2019 - 10:03 PM.


DeadLecter #10 Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:24 PM

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View PostVarzA, on 04 April 2019 - 12:33 AM, said:

 

I think he calculated it wrong tbh, because the EBR had more base xp grind than this marathon, but the 310-320 battles is probably what will be needed in the end anyway.

Did you watch the video? A good player will get 800~900 base XP in wins and maybe 300~500 in a loss so average of 600 XP seems reasonable and IIRC he said he would need 322 or so battles. so that is close to what you said.



VarzA #11 Posted 04 April 2019 - 05:12 AM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 03 April 2019 - 10:24 PM, said:

Did you watch the video? A good player will get 800~900 base XP in wins and maybe 300~500 in a loss so average of 600 XP seems reasonable and IIRC he said he would need 322 or so battles. so that is close to what you said.

 

I did, but i seem to recall that the EBR marathon had more base xp that was needed to be grinded as well as harder (and longer) upper stages.

 

Unfortunately, i did not do a total of the EBR marathon, what was required and such at the time, so i have no way of quickly checking (though i might later LE: my original post with that info).



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View PostVarzA, on 04 April 2019 - 07:42 AM, said:

 

I did, but i seem to recall that the EBR marathon had more base xp that was needed to be grinded as well as harder (and longer) upper stages.

 

Unfortunately, i did not do a total of the EBR marathon, what was required and such at the time, so i have no way of quickly checking (though i might later LE: my original post with that info).

Yeah it had missions that required you to be in the top ten players 90 times or earn 45k base XP. Now in the American challenge it's 50 time in the top ten and I think 30 or 35k base XP for the last stages. EBR was very hard. And not just that, even the Missions for Mastery were very difficult. WG has really toned it down. I hope they keep it up. And some of the rewards are even better. EBR marathon gave 3 days of premium account. this one gives 5.


Edited by DeadLecter, 04 April 2019 - 09:47 AM.


xtrem3x #13 Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:07 AM

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As with all these marathons... I will play normally, then after 10 days I will decide if the discount makes it worth buying or not.

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Miepie #14 Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

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View Postxtrem3x, on 04 April 2019 - 10:07 AM, said:

As with all these marathons... I will play normally, then after 10 days I will decide if the discount makes it worth buying or not.

 

Same. I have crews I want to train, tanks I want to destock and campaign missions I want to attempt. I'll see where I ended up at the end.

Though thinking about it: I might change the order in which I do stuff. If I play my M41 this evening to unlock the M44, I can use that one for my arty missions during the marathon (since it's a Tier VI)… Hmmz. Might ponder it a bit more. :mellow:



BlueSnail #15 Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:52 AM

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I thought I would post this to make it easier to see QuickyBaby's opinion.  Please note that his example battle is high tier.



HundeWurst #16 Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:05 PM

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Can anyone be bothered to make this calculation happen for the tier 9 and 10 tanks? The "hard" way?

The_Georgian_One #17 Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:15 PM

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View PostHundeWurst, on 04 April 2019 - 12:05 PM, said:

Can anyone be bothered to make this calculation happen for the tier 9 and 10 tanks? The "hard" way?

That would be tricky, as it's very skill-dependent.

I can safely say though they are easier than any of the previous marathons and you should be able to blitz through first 4 or five stages. 



kaneloon #18 Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:25 PM

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I'll just spam my tiers 9 ad nauseam ... tiers X too once my x2 are done.

Nice to have suddenly those 7 days of premium.

Thanks WG ;)

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And I'll reach the 7k of PR as a result ...

eldrak #19 Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:41 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 03 April 2019 - 09:24 PM, said:

Did you watch the video? A good player will get 800~900 base XP in wins and maybe 300~500 in a loss so average of 600 XP seems reasonable and IIRC he said he would need 322 or so battles. so that is close to what you said.

 

Good players get less than 8-900 base exp on a win. It's probably close to 700 (which is still above average exp for a win on tier X).

 

 



krazypenguin #20 Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:46 PM

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View Postkaneloon, on 04 April 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

I'll just spam my tiers 9 ad nauseam ... tiers X too once my x2 are done.

Nice to have suddenly those 7 days of premium.

Thanks WG ;)

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And I'll reach the 7k of PR as a result ...

 

Don't know if I will bother with this mission (probably not) but if I do, this is exactly how I will do it.   Not sure about the PR though :-P

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