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MaxRiga #1 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:46 PM

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I am smart enough to understand simple concept of, "company wil never ever make decision, which lowers income". Yet, I have very vague hope, developers want to make game fair (I know iy`s stupid but still...). Right now, all game`s system is built around "pay more - gain more". "Gold" ammo beeing major issue. Please, explain me, the point of having super heavy tanks, with super heavy armor, beeing penetrated like a paper, from every angle and distance possible?   Talking about REALLY heavies - Mouse, Type 5... As soon as I equip Mouse with gold ammo - I pen everything at any angle and distance. And get penned accordingly.

Seriously, I was buying Premium acc, but I am stopping now. I will not pay a single cent to WG again. Unless they really rebalance armor/pen stats on heavy tanks. Those are not supposed to camp, but break the lines. But with current situation it is all bollocks. Put your nose out - bam-bam-bam - you`re dead. 99% Gold ammo hits. Regular ammo bounces.

Now, well, it is wide, well, known fact that WG don`t give a flying F334 about player opinions. But maybe, maybe, if enough people stop dropping their few $ they will rethink their strategy. So please, fellow tankers, when you are about to make your next payment - think twice, do you really want to pay for poor service



Jauhesammutin #2 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:48 PM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

I am smart enough to understand simple concept of, "company wil never ever make decision, which lowers income". Yet, I have very vague hope, developers want to make game fair (I know iy`s stupid but still...). Right now, all game`s system is built around "pay more - gain more". "Gold" ammo beeing major issue. Please, explain me, the point of having super heavy tanks, with super heavy armor, beeing penetrated like a paper, from every angle and distance possible?   Talking about REALLY heavies - Mouse, Type 5... As soon as I equip Mouse with gold ammo - I pen everything at any angle and distance. And get penned accordingly.

Seriously, I was buying Premium acc, but I am stopping now. I will not pay a single cent to WG again. Unless they really rebalance armor/pen stats on heavy tanks. Those are not supposed to camp, but break the lines. But with current situation it is all bollocks. Put your nose out - bam-bam-bam - you`re dead. 99% Gold ammo hits. Regular ammo bounces.

Now, well, it is wide, well, known fact that WG don`t give a flying F334 about player opinions. But maybe, maybe, if enough people stop dropping their few $ they will rethink their strategy. So please, fellow tankers, when you are about to make your next payment - think twice, do you really want to pay for poor service

 

Psst. It's not 2011 anymore. "Gold" ammo has been buyable with credits for years.

BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:51 PM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

I am smart enough to understand simple concept of, "company wil never ever make decision, which lowers income". Yet, I have very vague hope, developers want to make game fair (I know iy`s stupid but still...). Right now, all game`s system is built around "pay more - gain more". "Gold" ammo beeing major issue. Please, explain me, the point of having super heavy tanks, with super heavy armor, beeing penetrated like a paper, from every angle and distance possible?   Talking about REALLY heavies - Mouse, Type 5... As soon as I equip Mouse with gold ammo - I pen everything at any angle and distance. And get penned accordingly.

Seriously, I was buying Premium acc, but I am stopping now. I will not pay a single cent to WG again. Unless they really rebalance armor/pen stats on heavy tanks. Those are not supposed to camp, but break the lines. But with current situation it is all bollocks. Put your nose out - bam-bam-bam - you`re dead. 99% Gold ammo hits. Regular ammo bounces.

Now, well, it is wide, well, known fact that WG don`t give a flying F334 about player opinions. But maybe, maybe, if enough people stop dropping their few $ they will rethink their strategy. So please, fellow tankers, when you are about to make your next payment - think twice, do you really want to pay for poor service

One moan thread about the same topic not enough for you? Approaching 20,000 battles and then start moaning....nice.



unhappy_bunny #4 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:51 PM

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So you are saying that  if I want to win more, I need to spend more? I knew I was doing something wrong.

5everin #5 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:51 PM

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Until they change it. It is still gold ammo to me. Tho I will acknowledge easy mode ammo if you prefer. 

MaxRiga #6 Posted 06 April 2019 - 06:52 PM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 06 April 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

 

Psst. It's not 2011 anymore. "Gold" ammo has been buyable with credits for years.

 

Why do you think i put " Gold" In quotes? :P And don`t tell me, you are not aware it is still commonly used name for premium ammo :P

 



barison1 #7 Posted 06 April 2019 - 07:05 PM

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maybe as wg forces us to shoot gold at certain targets like type5 and such and due to mm, armor layouts that cant be penned with normal AP(CR) due to no weakspot at all so loading gold to actually make a chance. or tier 8 trying to pen any tier x HT, basically needing to load some gold to be able to make some dmg while getting slapped hard in return.

not to mention plenty super HT can still block alot even when gold is fired at them. firing gold doesnt equal autopen.



AliceUnchained #8 Posted 06 April 2019 - 07:11 PM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Now, well, it is wide, well, known fact that WG don`t give a flying F334 about player opinions.

 

Given the fact quite a lot of those opinions are complete and utter garbage like yours, we can only hope Wargaming will continue to do so. Because I am quite confident we have the current corridor PoS maps, and super heavy tanks without weakspots exactly because they listened to clueless players, like yourself, in the past.

 

View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

Why do you think i put " Gold" In quotes? :P And don`t tell me, you are not aware it is still commonly used name for premium ammo :P

 

Only by those who have failed to adapt, and fail to understand the actual issues in WoT currently. Some of which are the direct result of Wargaming listening to players like you in the past.



Homer_J #9 Posted 06 April 2019 - 07:23 PM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

"Gold" ammo beeing major issue.

What gold ammo?



Jauhesammutin #10 Posted 06 April 2019 - 11:06 PM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 05:52 PM, said:

 

Why do you think i put " Gold" In quotes? :P And don`t tell me, you are not aware it is still commonly used name for premium ammo :P

 

 

I know. WG's color for it in the hitlog is still gold. But you are whining about something which has been available for credits only during the past year and for credits or gold 7 years before that.
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View PostHomer_J, on 06 April 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

What gold ammo?

 

The gold colored ammo in the hitlog.

Balc0ra #11 Posted 06 April 2019 - 11:07 PM

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So what about the f2p accounts with a higher WR then you then? Luck? Skill? Just faced people that did not pay enough?

 

PayMore #12 Posted 07 April 2019 - 10:31 AM

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View PostMaxRiga, on 06 April 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

  "pay more - gain more".

 

Is this post about bullying?



Laatikkomafia #13 Posted 07 April 2019 - 10:39 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 April 2019 - 12:07 AM, said:

So what about the f2p accounts with a higher WR then you then? Luck? Skill? Just faced people that did not pay enough?

 

Obviously player skill sets the basis of the player's average win rate. But there is no denying, that with some tanks and premium ammo, a player can get a clear advantage.

 

Most, if not all players will reach a higher win rate in a Defender than in an IS-3 for example. Or with HEAT-54 over T-54.


Edited by Laatikkomafia, 07 April 2019 - 10:40 AM.


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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 06 April 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

So you are saying that  if I want to win more, I need to spend more? I knew I was doing something wrong.

 

Trust me on this, that does not work, lol

TankkiPoju #15 Posted 07 April 2019 - 12:27 PM

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View Post5everin, on 06 April 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

Until they change it. It is still gold ammo to me. Tho I will acknowledge easy mode ammo if you prefer. 

 

Premium ammo is easy mode? Thanks for the tip, I will shoot some more.

 

BTW: You have 3k games in death star. yet 46% winrate. Didn't you use the easy mode?


Edited by TankkiPoju, 07 April 2019 - 12:28 PM.


5everin #16 Posted 07 April 2019 - 01:05 PM

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View Post5everin, on 07 April 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

View PostTankkiPoju, on 07 April 2019 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

Premium ammo is easy mode? Thanks for the tip, I will shoot some more.

 

BTW: You have 3k games in death star. yet 46% winrate. Didn't you use the easy mode?

 

You trying to say gold ammo makes damaging enemy tanks more difficult ? If so we'll that speaks volumes... And do tell what has my fvb win rate got to do with gold ammo... Or are you just assuming I spam it?... Guess what... WRONG. 

 

 

View PostTankkiPoju, on 07 April 2019 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

Premium ammo is easy mode? Thanks for the tip, I will shoot some more.

 

BTW: You have 3k games in death star. yet 46% winrate. Didn't you use the easy mode?

 

You trying to say gold ammo makes damaging enemy tanks more difficult ? If so we'll that speaks volumes... And do tell what has my fvb win rate got to do with gold ammo... Or are you just assuming I spam it?... Guess what... WRONG.

 

But carry on with eaymode if it helps with the ego issues. 


Edited by 5everin, 07 April 2019 - 01:10 PM.


Toni112007 #17 Posted 07 April 2019 - 01:26 PM

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Tier 10 is definitely p2w. Don't think 9 or lower are tho.

kaneloon #18 Posted 07 April 2019 - 01:43 PM

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OP, most players spam gold (vanilla game still display them in a gold color) so don't expect a big wave of support here.




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