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TungstenHitman #21 Posted 07 April 2019 - 07:37 PM

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Could be worth exploring. I think Israeli's made use of any tanks and tech the could get their hands on or captured during conflicts and enhanced them to their own versions. The "French" M4 Rev in this game is more linked as an Israeli tank I think.

 

 

 

And there's this Sherman AMX sort of hybrid which might be an interesting addition to the game, a Sherman auto loader.

 

 

and I think they added better guns to captured Egyptian Soviet era tanks too, which were shared with British tanks at the time. Obviously all their tanks of this era were sourced from elsewhere as they didn't produce their own but they certainly put their own stamp on most all of them and modified enough to be a different and interesting playstyle alternative to this game so might be good. 



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View PostAndicelMare, on 07 April 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

Hi,can you add israelian tanks like merkava 2 or 1 those tanks are really good

 

Hi.

 

NO.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 April 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

A tank that entered service in 79, and saw action in the 80's? Not likely. As that's just outside the current area of operations for this game.

 

If they are able to put gunships the game I do not see why such tanks cannot.

Game is ruined anyway with post war tanks that are already around.


Edited by _PanzerBitterbal_, 07 April 2019 - 08:09 PM.


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How about we add nations with actual WoT-era tanks instead?

Like Hungary.

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 07 April 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

And there's this Sherman AMX sort of hybrid which might be an interesting addition to the game, a Sherman auto loader.

 

 

and I think they added better guns to captured Egyptian Soviet era tanks too, which were shared with British tanks at the time. Obviously all their tanks of this era were sourced from elsewhere as they didn't produce their own but they certainly put their own stamp on most all of them and modified enough to be a different and interesting playstyle alternative to this game so might be good. 

Is going to be added as a French premium instead.

http://forum.worldof...um-medium-tank/


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View PostAndicelMare, on 07 April 2019 - 11:26 AM, said:

Hi,can you add israelian tanks like merkava 2 or 1 those tanks are really good

 

Only if I can have Merkava 4 as premium Tier X tank :D

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View PostAndicelMare, on 07 April 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

Hi,can you add israelian an Israeli tanks like merkava 2 or 1 those tanks are really good

 

What is an Israelian? I have yet to meet that particular species?

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View Postjaptank, on 07 April 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

That would be fun with all the people throwing jew insults in chat already, that certainly wouldn't stir the pot :P

 

There may be very good reasons why an Israeli line is not a priority for WoT, appeasing anti Semitic bigots is not one of them.

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The only remaining nation is Hungary which had somewhat unique tank development with interesting tanks, enough for a full tech tree from the 1930's. 

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Israeli tanks could be implemented in a Rest of the World Tech Tree, along with other nations that cannot put out a full tech tree.

Israeli's modified most every tank they purchased and captured to specifications that would lead to an effective combat machine.

The UK for instance used Israeli experience in order to improve the Chieftain.

The concept behind the Merkava (crew protection) is now a mainstay in modern tank design.  A tank is easy to replace, it just costs money.  An experienced crew is much harder to replace.

 

Regarding the Merkava in WoT?  The FV215B is as close to it as can be, The Merkava Prototype and Mk 1 would fit in to WoT.  The Mk 1 was armed with the classic 105mm L7, so the gun fits WoT.

Centurion variants, Tirans (T54/5/62 that were captured and modified), Shermans, The Cromwell that was ""liberated"" from the British Mandate troops by a kind Scotsman, the MicroMaus which was the 1st tank in Israeli service.  Several Hotchkiss tanks captured by Israeli forces on the Syrian front.

There is more then enough material.  

If an Australian Variant of the Centurion, and a Swedish version of the Centurion are in the game, both variants having never fired their guns in combat, then the most successful user of the Centurion should have a version or 2 as well.



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View PostAndicelMare, on 07 April 2019 - 11:26 AM, said:

Hi,can you add israelian tanks like merkava 2 or 1 those tanks are really good

 

Seriously, bugger off with this nonsense. When you want to propose a new Nation, or line of tanks, at least invest the time in creating one yourself as a suggestion, providing details and examples, doing some research. Creating a new thread with just a single sentence along the lines of 'This nation has 1 or 2 cool tanks, create a full Tech Tree please' is a complete waste of forum space, and moderators should just lock and junk it straight away, while also removing your ability to create threads (at least for a while).

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View PostDA_ZOHAN, on 08 April 2019 - 08:08 AM, said:

Israeli tanks could be implemented in a Rest of the World Tech Tree, along with other nations that cannot put out a full tech tree.

Israeli's modified most every tank they purchased and captured to specifications that would lead to an effective combat machine.

The UK for instance used Israeli experience in order to improve the Chieftain.

The concept behind the Merkava (crew protection) is now a mainstay in modern tank design.  A tank is easy to replace, it just costs money.  An experienced crew is much harder to replace.

 

Regarding the Merkava in WoT?  The FV215B is as close to it as can be, The Merkava Prototype and Mk 1 would fit in to WoT.  The Mk 1 was armed with the classic 105mm L7, so the gun fits WoT.

Centurion variants, Tirans (T54/5/62 that were captured and modified), Shermans, The Cromwell that was ""liberated"" from the British Mandate troops by a kind Scotsman, the MicroMaus which was the 1st tank in Israeli service.  Several Hotchkiss tanks captured by Israeli forces on the Syrian front.

There is more then enough material.  

If an Australian Variant of the Centurion, and a Swedish version of the Centurion are in the game, both variants having never fired their guns in combat, then the most successful user of the Centurion should have a version or 2 as well.


A timely reminder that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

Also didn't the Isreali's kind of piss all over the soviet supplied opposition? Think that might hold your answer OP.



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@DaZohan- Cent 5/1 did serve in Vietnam...

 

Edit: can't say for certain atm If the 5/1 had tank vs tank experience, but if my memory serves, it met at least few.


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Merkava was developed by Israel after they assisted on the design of the Chieftain, and then the British government decided they wouldn't let them have any. This is mirrored in WoT, where WG won't let us have it either. (even though it's in the game files).

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 08 April 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

Seriously, bugger off with this nonsense. When you want to propose a new Nation, or line of tanks, at least invest the time in creating one yourself as a suggestion, providing details and examples, doing some research. Creating a new thread with just a single sentence along the lines of 'This nation has 1 or 2 cool tanks, create a full Tech Tree please' is a complete waste of forum space, and moderators should just lock and junk it straight away, while also removing your ability to create threads (at least for a while).

 

I always wondered who was in charge of the critically important Forum Space Department. Apparently it's Alice...

AliceUnchained #35 Posted 08 April 2019 - 07:27 PM

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View PostTankistu, on 08 April 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

I always wondered who was in charge of the critically important Forum Space Department. Apparently it's Alice...

 

Well obviously not, or else this thread would no longer be here for you to post this in :P



DA_ZOHAN #36 Posted 08 April 2019 - 07:35 PM

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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 08 April 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:


A timely reminder that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

Also didn't the Isreali's kind of piss all over the soviet supplied opposition? Think that might hold your answer OP.

Your 1st statement is not something I prefer to address in this forum for the obvious reasons.

 

Your 2nd statement is correct, although Jordanians also possessed Centurions and Pattons and they were annihilated as well.

On the evening of the 2nd day of the 1973 war, The Northern sector of the Golan Heights saw odds of over 20 to 1, with the Israeli's obviously being victorious.

Syrian tanks were equipped with Infra Red projectors, gunners had infra red scopes.  Israeli tanks did not, only Commanders had Infra Red Bino's.  Even with this HUGE advantage, Syria still could not prevail.

I have long suspected that Israeli superiority with Centurions and Pattons and Shermans and AMX 13-75's over T34-85's, T54's, T55's, and T62's led to the former tanks being worse then the latter in WoT.

View Post4nt, on 08 April 2019 - 12:22 PM, said:

@DaZohan- Cent 5/1 did serve in Vietnam...

 

Edit: can't say for certain atm If the 5/1 had tank vs tank experience, but if my memory serves, it met at least few.

I don't think that there were any tank battles in the Vietnam war.  if any, probably at no more then platoon level, no chance of any more then that. 



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If you look at the nations that WG have added after the obvious ones you get either that nation has a large playerbase or the tank line has some new mechanism. I don’t see where Israeli tanks fit in.

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View Postjabster, on 08 April 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

If you look at the nations that WG have added after the obvious ones you get either that nation has a large playerbase or the tank line has some new mechanism. I don’t see where Israeli tanks fit in.

 

How about the obvious...

Additional content.

This has nothing to do with politics or whatever.

Add Iranian tanks, add Palestinian tanks, add tanks from Timbaktu and Luxembourg and the Vatican and The Faroe Islands.

Just more content.



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View PostDA_ZOHAN, on 08 April 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

 

How about the obvious...

Additional content.

This has nothing to do with politics or whatever.

Add Iranian tanks, add Palestinian tanks, add tanks from Timbaktu and Luxembourg and the Vatican and The Faroe Islands.

Just more content.

 

Which doesn’t address the point I made.

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The players that were crying the new MM would kill "diversity" would rejoice to have some more Centurion and M4 variants to play with/against /s




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